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Post by gkparent on Sept 10, 2019 16:29:24 GMT -5
The named coach is also a goal keeper coach, and a very good one. Considering his knowledge of the position, perhaps your son's slow responses in the first game were misinterpreted (in the beginning) as being deliberate. In no way am I condoning a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player. From what I can gather, the opposing coach, yourself, the ref, and your son were all involved in the exchanges at some point. Where was YOUR coach during these multiple interactions? Personally, I would be more furious with my own coach than the opposing coach in this situation. That's where I would start my complaint.
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Post by footyfan on Sept 10, 2019 17:21:20 GMT -5
The named coach is also a goal keeper coach, and a very good one. Considering his knowledge of the position, perhaps your son's slow responses in the first game were misinterpreted (in the beginning) as being deliberate. In no way am I condoning a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player. From what I can gather, the opposing coach, yourself, the ref, and your son were all involved in the exchanges at some point. Where was YOUR coach during these multiple interactions? Personally, I would be more furious with my own coach than the opposing coach in this situation. That's where I would start my complaint. I'd start with the league and try to get a suspension. That sort of scumbaggery has absolutely no place in youth footy. Discuss it with your coach and club at your leisure. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 10, 2019 17:28:51 GMT -5
Stalling is part of the game. Sounds like the coach was mad about it. No doubt he wouldn't encourage his player to do the same in a similar situation. "Keeper, hurry up and get the ball so the other team can shoot on us more quickly!"
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Post by footyfan on Sept 10, 2019 20:10:00 GMT -5
Stalling is part of the game. Sounds like the coach was mad about it. No doubt he wouldn't encourage his player to do the same in a similar situation. "Keeper, hurry up and get the ball so the other team can shoot on us more quickly!" For sure. And a real coach would yell at the ref and or the opposing coach. Not the kid. That's coward stuff. Let's not forget kudos to the mom/dad who kept their cool in the face of their kid being tested like that. Sounds like the kid grew from the experience. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 10, 2019 20:50:59 GMT -5
The named coach is also a goal keeper coach, and a very good one. Considering his knowledge of the position, perhaps your son's slow responses in the first game were misinterpreted (in the beginning) as being deliberate. In no way am I condoning a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player. From what I can gather, the opposing coach, yourself, the ref, and your son were all involved in the exchanges at some point. Where was YOUR coach during these multiple interactions? Personally, I would be more furious with my own coach than the opposing coach in this situation. That's where I would start my complaint. I'd start with the league and try to get a suspension. That sort of scumbaggery has absolutely no place in youth footy. Discuss it with your coach and club at your leisure. Oh you poor thing, you don’t realize that “scumbaggery” is what created that league and runs most youth sports. |
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Post by mark on Sept 10, 2019 21:35:08 GMT -5
The only college football games I went to in the 80's were at the Air Force Academy, West Point and some of USAFA's conference rivals, and no, people did not act like that. Football? |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 11, 2019 5:17:33 GMT -5
I'd start with the league and try to get a suspension. That sort of scumbaggery has absolutely no place in youth footy. Discuss it with your coach and club at your leisure. Oh you poor thing, you don’t realize that “scumbaggery” is what created that league and runs most youth sports. LOL @ "that league". Your jealousy and envy is showing...... If not that your bitterness is showing... All leagues are about the money no matter when created and at what level. As soon as you quit bashing one league and bash the system as a whole the faster youth soccer will get better overall. |
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Post by soccergurl on Sept 11, 2019 6:18:37 GMT -5
Me thinks a timely placed throat-punch would solve the issue yes that would be a great example for everyone. Me thinks it would work tho, "jawing" wud cease 2 continue |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 11, 2019 6:34:16 GMT -5
The named coach is also a goal keeper coach, and a very good one. Considering his knowledge of the position, perhaps your son's slow responses in the first game were misinterpreted (in the beginning) as being deliberate. In no way am I condoning a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player. From what I can gather, the opposing coach, yourself, the ref, and your son were all involved in the exchanges at some point. Where was YOUR coach during these multiple interactions? Personally, I would be more furious with my own coach than the opposing coach in this situation. That's where I would start my complaint. Based on your handle gkparent i'm going to guess that you also know a thing or two about the GK world. I highly doubt you would act that way. Overall, I get what you're saying and it makes sense, but respectfully childish behavior from this coach is wrong and unwarranted. He's the adult (at least physically) and should act accordingly. I've heard he may also be a college coach at Emory, someone else can confirm. He is supposed to be a "teacher" and we hold actual teachers to higher standards usually with zero tolerance. I think the same should apply here... |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 11, 2019 7:19:40 GMT -5
Oh you poor thing, you don’t realize that “scumbaggery” is what created that league and runs most youth sports. LOL @ "that league". Your jealousy and envy is showing...... If not that your bitterness is showing... All leagues are about the money no matter when created and at what level. As soon as you quit bashing one league and bash the system as a whole the faster youth soccer will get better overall. Hahaha you don’t think I’ve bashed US Soccer and GA Soccer? That’s funny! The whole damn thing is broken. The whole idea of letting the MLS dictate the youth programs. The old boys clubs of GA Soccer that want to run things like it’s still 1995. The fact they don’t want to make rules & by laws for fair play and to govern against all these mega mergers that have helped ruin and water down the competition. And what am I jealous and envious of? I’ve got kids in ECNL, SCCL-P and Classic. So I’ll bash every damn one of them, especially SCCL as it’s a completely useless league. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 11, 2019 8:55:18 GMT -5
The only college football games I went to in the 80's were at the Air Force Academy, West Point and some of USAFA's conference rivals, and no, people did not act like that. Football? Yes, in the old WAC. Its not "power conference" football, but it was D1 college football nonetheless. I have heard tell of a UGA home game against Duke game where bottles were thrown at the Duke players. And of course there's the day Auburn had to open up the waterhoses on the UGA fans. But just because certain fans at football games in the 70s and 80s acted uncouthly doesn't make it acceptable.
But this was a digression, my point was that even stupid college students should not be addressing opposing players, especially not in empty stadiums where the only other people there are the parents of the kids playing.
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Post by datrain on Sept 11, 2019 9:01:10 GMT -5
The named coach is also a goal keeper coach, and a very good one. Considering his knowledge of the position, perhaps your son's slow responses in the first game were misinterpreted (in the beginning) as being deliberate. In no way am I condoning a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player. From what I can gather, the opposing coach, yourself, the ref, and your son were all involved in the exchanges at some point. Where was YOUR coach during these multiple interactions? Personally, I would be more furious with my own coach than the opposing coach in this situation. That's where I would start my complaint. Based on your handle gkparent i'm going to guess that you also know a thing or two about the GK world. I highly doubt you would act that way. Overall, I get what you're saying and it makes sense, but respectfully childish behavior from this coach is wrong and unwarranted. He's the adult (at least physically) and should act accordingly. I've heard he may also be a college coach at Emory, someone else can confirm. He is supposed to be a "teacher" and we hold actual teachers to higher standards usually with zero tolerance. I think the same should apply here... To be clear, I did not engage the offending coach...there was no exchange on either occasion. My son dealt with it. As for my son's coach, he told everyone to be quiet. I commend him for trying to settle the situation down. I have no complaints with him. He was the true adult and tried to defuse the situation. Bottom line......the opposing coach should not be barking directly to 14 year old players that are not under his supervision. If you have a problem, take it up with the referee and/or the opposing coach. I am a retired lacrosse coach......that is exactly how I have handled situations like this in the past. BTW, my son knows the game inside and out. He is a licensed referee to boot. He knows how to delay and stall within the rules. |
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Post by mark on Sept 11, 2019 20:12:51 GMT -5
Yes, in the old WAC. Its not "power conference" football, but it was D1 college football nonetheless. I have heard tell of a UGA home game against Duke game where bottles were thrown at the Duke players. And of course there's the day Auburn had to open up the waterhoses on the UGA fans. But just because certain fans at football games in the 70s and 80s acted uncouthly doesn't make it acceptable.
But this was a digression, my point was that even stupid college students should not be addressing opposing players, especially not in empty stadiums where the only other people there are the parents of the kids playing.
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Post by jash on Sept 11, 2019 21:15:15 GMT -5
I knew it couldn't be Coach Raul. I know Raul Diaz Arce and he is a very laid back Coach. He would never single out any of his or opposing players as well as Coaches. He is a Soccer idol to many fans, a former National Team player for El Salvador, former great player and scorer in the MLS and a role model for youth players. Had to quote this to second this opinion. Raul is pure quality. |
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Post by gkparent on Sept 12, 2019 17:20:47 GMT -5
Apparently, the message I was attempting to convey did not come across as intended. All I meant was I would start with speaking with my own coach. Until the statements above, I was not clear what role, if any, your coach had in the entire process. I misunderstood and thought he said/did nothing. If that were the case, I would want to address that first and then, if satisfied, I would confer with him on next steps. A complaint in any league isn't going to go very far without multiple people verifying the actions of the coach. At least I wouldn’t think it would. To be clear, the only reason I thought you had engaged with the offending coach along with the ref and your son was because you stated “When it happened the first time at the tournament, I yelled at the coach to be quiet.” I thought everyone had exchanged words except for your coach, and that made me furious for your son. Again, I do not condone a coach directing any comments to an opposing team's player and most definitely not a goal keeper. Yes, I am sensitive to all goalkeepers. Perhaps my opinion (and I thought those were allowed) would have been easier to understand had I not began with a compliment to the named coach.
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 13, 2019 10:15:34 GMT -5
LOL @ "that league". Your jealousy and envy is showing...... If not that your bitterness is showing... All leagues are about the money no matter when created and at what level. As soon as you quit bashing one league and bash the system as a whole the faster youth soccer will get better overall. Hahaha you don’t think I’ve bashed US Soccer and GA Soccer? That’s funny! The whole damn thing is broken. The whole idea of letting the MLS dictate the youth programs. The old boys clubs of GA Soccer that want to run things like it’s still 1995. The fact they don’t want to make rules & by laws for fair play and to govern against all these mega mergers that have helped ruin and water down the competition. And what am I jealous and envious of? I’ve got kids in ECNL, SCCL-P and Classic. So I’ll bash every damn one of them, especially SCCL as it’s a completely useless league. Something we can agree on |
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Post by soccerwistle on Sept 13, 2019 10:16:55 GMT -5
So is the coach "jawing" at your kid because he's good or does it seem like there is a personal bias and in turn he's being specifically targeted? If not, l would honestly start by raising the question or issue with the coach privately. He may not realize what he's doing and may just need to be aware of it. I know at U15 some of our boys look ginormous but they are still kids and he's still coaching within Youth Soccer, so all that jawing is not called for. Telling the referee about it might also help to diffuse the situation, especially if the ref is an adult. If the coach refuses to stop or blows you off, then I would recommend the full court treatment. First let your club coach and director know. Secondly, let his directors know. If all that fails, try to record said heinous behavior and turn it into Georgia Soccer, SCCL/US Club. At the very least let us know his name. If it is a pattern, others might also come forward to show a pattern. Finally, in an extreme situation, just have your team parents, friends, etc. shout him down throughout the game. Also helps if you have placards and signs putting a spotlight on his behavior. Hopefully, it doesn't come to this but you get the drift... Lol you got connection but don’t know the first and last of reporting someone , Shame |
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Post by footyfan on Sept 13, 2019 17:40:08 GMT -5
There is an h in whistle.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Sept 15, 2019 21:10:13 GMT -5
So is the coach "jawing" at your kid because he's good or does it seem like there is a personal bias and in turn he's being specifically targeted? If not, l would honestly start by raising the question or issue with the coach privately. He may not realize what he's doing and may just need to be aware of it. I know at U15 some of our boys look ginormous but they are still kids and he's still coaching within Youth Soccer, so all that jawing is not called for. Telling the referee about it might also help to diffuse the situation, especially if the ref is an adult. If the coach refuses to stop or blows you off, then I would recommend the full court treatment. First let your club coach and director know. Secondly, let his directors know. If all that fails, try to record said heinous behavior and turn it into Georgia Soccer, SCCL/US Club. At the very least let us know his name. If it is a pattern, others might also come forward to show a pattern. Finally, in an extreme situation, just have your team parents, friends, etc. shout him down throughout the game. Also helps if you have placards and signs putting a spotlight on his behavior. Hopefully, it doesn't come to this but you get the drift... Lol you got connection but don’t know the first and last of reporting someone , Shame If we're being honest, I've never had to, how do the kids say "snitch" on someone. I usually put on my big girl bloomers and handle it one on one with the coach or offending party. If you're more in to snitching, then you should be an expert on how to "report someone" To quote you from another one of your earlier trolling posts - I can tell you didn’t even take time to read what’s as said.You're just perturbed that I called you out on your bald-faced lie, one which when challenged, you walked back like the troll you are. I think it's time to call on your mommy or daddy to revoke your computer privileges. Time to come up from the basement, step out from behind the safety and comfort of the inter-web and rejoin society. On that note, I've spent waaay too much time on you and on this topic. I prefer to have real discussions with and make "connections" with adults, not petulant little kiddies. |
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Post by gkparent on Sept 16, 2019 9:27:32 GMT -5
the British slang term for "snitch" is "grass." But to get the full effect, you have to say it with a British accent... with a short O vowel rather than short A. A little fun fact my son brought home from his coach after he overheard the coach telling a player "no one likes a grass." The player had snitched on another for having chicfila before a game. Now the kids say "grass."
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Post by nthsoccerdad19 on Sept 16, 2019 19:09:05 GMT -5
I've had this happen before with my kid and I got up, approaches the coach and gave him a right hook. Knocked him right out in front of everyone. The NASA-TH team gave me a standing ovation as I walked off the pitch back in to my seat.
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Post by footyfan on Sept 17, 2019 5:42:48 GMT -5
I've had this happen before with my kid and I got up, approaches the coach and gave him a right hook. Knocked him right out in front of everyone. The NASA-TH team gave me a standing ovation as I walked off the pitch back in to my seat. Physical violence is a wildly inappropriate response, but you did reply to a post from 2013 in a seperate thread so.... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 17, 2019 9:30:03 GMT -5
I've had this happen before with my kid and I got up, approaches the coach and gave him a right hook. Knocked him right out in front of everyone. The NASA-TH team gave me a standing ovation as I walked off the pitch back in to my seat. Physical violence is a wildly inappropriate response, but you did reply to a post from 2013 in a seperate thread so.... This guy is totally a troll and possibly soccerhouse should ban him. |
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