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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Jan 2, 2020 8:06:03 GMT -5
Is there a way to verify a coach actually has the license they claim to have?
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Post by Keeper on Jan 2, 2020 10:45:08 GMT -5
Depends on which license, but overall no you can’t. Newer USSF licenses are all through the USSoccer DCC but that’s only like 3-4 years old so anything before that is just a toss up if there’s still paperwork.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jan 2, 2020 22:42:21 GMT -5
Is there a way to verify a coach actually has the license they claim to have? Usually clubs advertise on their pages what their licenses are, I don't think they would lie for any coach. If you are inquiring about a particular coach, someone always knows, so ask away |
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Post by atlutd17 on Jan 2, 2020 23:08:14 GMT -5
Is there a way to verify a coach actually has the license they claim to have? Yes, there is through the federation but I would start with the club. When a coach gets hired, any reputable club will ask for a proof of license along with a background check. This and experience are important stuff. |
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Post by soccergurl on Jan 3, 2020 10:47:38 GMT -5
So I can claim to be A-Licensed when I comment on here SoccerGurl(A-Licensed) 🤔 IMALO - in my a-licensed opinion 👍
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 5, 2020 15:03:11 GMT -5
Yes as long as you are from a reputable club.
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 5, 2020 15:04:22 GMT -5
Reputable clubs never lie to kids or parents.
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 5, 2020 15:04:50 GMT -5
Except during tryouts.
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Post by publicstellar on Jan 8, 2020 22:09:19 GMT -5
Just ask...The coach should have a certificate and/or card...I got both when I got my C about 8 years ago.
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Post by fire1 on Jan 10, 2020 12:12:16 GMT -5
Don’t get too caught up in verifying US licenses. Most of them are a joke. Especially the old timers that have an “A” license that don’t know crap about the game. There are plenty of those out there. Some are even called directors, be careful.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 10, 2020 12:44:08 GMT -5
The two best coaches my kids have ever had have A licenses, but I agree that the license is not as important as other factors. Frankly my most important factor for thinking a coach is good is whether they actually care about improving your player. IMHO that involves feedback to the player regularly in trainings and games (not necessarily joysticking them but letting them know what they did right and wrong). Advising the player on what they need to do to improve so that they can work on their own on that if necessary. I like training sessions that push the player to be better and getting on them a bit when they are not up to expectations.
Thus far the lower level licensed coaches have not done this but that is probably coincidence.
Regardless of which license you have, if you don't care or if you are not a good communicator your knowledge of the game is worthless.
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Post by atv on Jan 10, 2020 13:15:35 GMT -5
Be very cautious assessing a coaches ability based on the license. Of the half dozen A license coaches we’ve had I probably consider half of them to be “good” coaches. Same thing with B license coaches. There are major issues with the coaching education system run by USSF and this has been going on for some time. Plus there are a lot of intangibles and teaching related skills when it comes to coaching.
As for my personal all time 3 favorite coaches, one had an A, one had a B, and one young English coach I was never quite sure about. The last one I think had close to the minimum license but was an absolute rock star. Technical, motivator, teacher and a hell of a coach. Would take that coach over all the rest.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 10, 2020 13:38:34 GMT -5
I think that generally your best coaches are former players who played into college at the least (even better if they were a professional). Those are the ones who know the game the best and know what it takes to be successful. But like other posters have said, they have to care about helping all the players on the team improve, from the stars to the last bench player...whether they personally like the kid or their parents or not.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 10, 2020 13:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by mistergrinch on Jan 10, 2020 14:00:11 GMT -5
I think that generally your best coaches are former players who played into college at the least (even better if they were a professional). Those are the ones who know the game the best and know what it takes to be successful. But like other posters have said, they have to care about helping all the players on the team improve, from the stars to the last bench player...whether they personally like the kid or their parents or not. I think your second point is the key here. I've seen great coaches that played college and/or pro.. and I've seen former D1 players who are garbage coaches. The difference? Personal investment. The good ones really cared. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 10, 2020 22:12:26 GMT -5
This sounds similar to our current coach, I don’t think he even has a D license. Why do some of these talented coaches decide against getting any of their licenses? Costs, Costs, Costs!!! A License is north of $4,000 B License is north of $3,000 C License is north of $1,500 This does not cover travel and hotel costs, etc. When you factor in that most non-DOC/director coaches average about $1500/month per team, that is a chunk of change for some young coach just starting out. And if memory serves me right, certain licenses need to be updated/maintained, which means even more $$ to keep it up to date... www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2016/07/the-high-cost-of-american-coaching/ |
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Post by publicstellar on Jan 10, 2020 22:53:21 GMT -5
Don’t get too caught up in verifying US licenses. Most of them are a joke. Especially the old timers that have an “A” license that don’t know crap about the game. There are plenty of those out there. Some are even called directors, be careful. Always verify, but don't let that be your determining factor. I had several Coaches working for me who were better coaches than I even though they didn't hold the same credentials and I know even more who have better credentials than I who I wouldn't let coach any of my kids. |
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Post by oldboy on Jan 11, 2020 8:17:04 GMT -5
This sounds similar to our current coach, I don’t think he even has a D license. Why do some of these talented coaches decide against getting any of their licenses? Costs, Costs, Costs!!! A License is north of $4,000 B License is north of $3,000 C License is north of $1,500 This does not cover travel and hotel costs, etc. When you factor in that most non-DOC/director coaches average about $1500/month per team, that is a chunk of change for some young coach just starting out. And if memory serves me right, certain licenses need to be updated/maintained, which means even more $$ to keep it up to date... www.topdrawersoccer.com/the91stminute/2016/07/the-high-cost-of-american-coaching/$1,500/month per team is nothing close to the average for most non-DOC/director coaches. There are only a handful of coaches in the state who make that kind of money absent a director title or some other role. The vast majority of coaches make far less than that. |
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Post by atv on Jan 11, 2020 8:26:44 GMT -5
I believe the USSF Youth Soccer task force was suppose to address some of the issues with coaching license accessibility, grassroots coaching,etc. it’s still on-going and they’ve launched some pilot programs.
Improving the quality of A and B license coaches is a real need. USSF has supposedly been more restrictive on who is admitted into the A and B coaching classes. Not sure how their doing this or exactly what criteria is used. Some think strongly that the curriculum needs major improvements. Just like everything USSF runs, it probably needs a complete overhaul.
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Post by atv on Jan 11, 2020 9:19:55 GMT -5
Christian Lavers is always a good read on all things coaching related. US Club Soccer and ECNL are run by some very smart, humble folks and this is probably one of the areas they really excel, continuous improvement of coaching education with focus on youth development. www.soccertoday.com/ecnls-christian-lavers-on-we-have-to-do-better/ |
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Post by rifle on Jan 11, 2020 10:03:45 GMT -5
This sounds similar to our current coach, I don’t think he even has a D license. Why do some of these talented coaches decide against getting any of their licenses? After you are through entry level coaching licenses, the program costs a lot of money. Like everything USSF, it seems more about control than quality IMO. |
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