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Post by cleansheet on Jan 14, 2020 21:05:47 GMT -5
The inaugural SCCL summer league will include the same big 6 plus adding Ambush and AFC.
GSA
NTH
CF
SSA
UFA
AFU
AFC
AMBUSH
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Post by Keeper on Jan 14, 2020 21:12:44 GMT -5
So everyone from SuperY except DDYSC.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 15, 2020 9:56:47 GMT -5
So Super-Y is dead in GA, which is fine...but IMO there needs to be a point to the new league. A trophy, medals, yada, yada. A season's grind of work needs to be rewarded like 3-4 games of work. The SCCL braintrust needs to dish out a bit of cash and make some nice medals for league winners (summer, fall, spring) like the Georgia Soccer league medals.
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Post by atv on Jan 18, 2020 9:47:42 GMT -5
I believe this league will be an improvement over Super Y. Nice to see collaboration with very good clubs like AFC and Ambush. One would wonder if will see future SCCL teams?
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Post by cleansheet on Jan 18, 2020 10:57:47 GMT -5
I believe this league will be an improvement over Super Y. Nice to see collaboration with very good clubs like AFC and Ambush. One would wonder if will see future SCCL teams? I think you will see a dramatic announcement this spring from SCCL. Look for a third and fourth division. Look for some of GA Soccer’s most loyal smaller clubs to defect and joint SCCL. |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 19, 2020 15:11:18 GMT -5
I believe this league will be an improvement over Super Y. Nice to see collaboration with very good clubs like AFC and Ambush. One would wonder if will see future SCCL teams? I think you will see a dramatic announcement this spring from SCCL. Look for a third and fourth division. Look for some of GA Soccer’s most loyal smaller clubs to defect and joint SCCL. Can someone recap the reasons for formation of SCCL? It seems to me the main benefits of SCCL would be lost if everybody joined: Smooth scheduling (headaches are all gone right?); lopsided games(they are all competitive, right?); well run league-wide tournies(those went really well, right?) And I know every remaining club will jump at the option of SCCLs merit-based leagues! (let's sign up for 3rd division SCCL so we can play The 5th level of the big clubs! I'm sure those big clubs will put us in the appropriate leagues!) |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jan 19, 2020 17:10:57 GMT -5
I think you will see a dramatic announcement this spring from SCCL. Look for a third and fourth division. Look for some of GA Soccer’s most loyal smaller clubs to defect and joint SCCL. Can someone recap the reasons for formation of SCCL? It seems to me the main benefits of SCCL would be lost if everybody joined: Smooth scheduling (headaches are all gone right?); lopsided games(they are all competitive, right?); well run league-wide tournies(those went really well, right?) And I know every remaining club will jump at the option of SCCLs merit-based leagues! (let's sign up for 3rd division SCCL so we can play The 5th level of the big clubs! I'm sure those big clubs will put us in the appropriate leagues!) On the SCCL Board there is a thread about the SCCL Summer league & SCCL Cup details being released. I brought up that in the release they mention a summer league without breaking the bank. From what I can tell, the price to the players/parents is going to be the same. However, there will be less benefits than what Super Y offer. IMO the reason for the SCCL summer league is to give the main SCCL clubs more money...GSA, SSA, Concorde, UFA, NASA/TopHat. I don't know of any other benefit. We have played Super Y the past 3 summers and have not had any issues. So, it will be interesting to see how this SCCL league improves our experience. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 19, 2020 17:31:42 GMT -5
IF you're going to play summery soccer at an SCCL club and its offered, I would recommend doing the developmental squad over the full-price team, it's half the price and if your kid wants to/are invited to play in a game the club will likely charge about $25 to play per game.
I think the cost difference between Super-Y full team and developmental was about $200 last year (looks the same at our club this summer). So if you're going to take vacations/go to weekend camps/etc and miss games, you'll end up saving money. Worst case is if you play in all 8 games is the $200 difference anyways.
However, if you're worried about not being invited to play in any games, by all means pay full price (pay to play). But if your kid is a very high-level player and there really isnt any question the coach will want them on the field, by all means do the developmental route.
Since our team is (most likely) doing US Club regionals we will be practicing most of June anyways, so theres really no point joining the summer team/league. Will have to see what we do ODP related over the summer, but may do 2nd subregional for fun also.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jan 20, 2020 11:38:32 GMT -5
I believe this league will be an improvement over Super Y. Nice to see collaboration with very good clubs like AFC and Ambush. One would wonder if will see future SCCL teams? Improvement how? |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 20, 2020 18:14:37 GMT -5
Crickets
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Post by atv on Jan 20, 2020 20:47:30 GMT -5
Sorry, been busy.
Just my opinion but Super Y has lost its relevance on what it set out to achieve once upon a time. It’s not an elite league anymore. Several years ago it was a big deal to make a Super Y team. Now it’s an everyone makes the team, low key games, make it if you can, kind of league. Good to stay in shape and get some touches over the summer. Nothing more. So given the current state I think it’s something the clubs can take on running and will probably do a good job with. That’s all...
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Post by guest on Jan 21, 2020 6:48:02 GMT -5
I think you will see a dramatic announcement this spring from SCCL. Look for a third and fourth division. Look for some of GA Soccer’s most loyal smaller clubs to defect and joint SCCL. Can someone recap the reasons for formation of SCCL? So you didn’t have to play in R3PL. Period. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jan 21, 2020 7:59:39 GMT -5
I believe this league will be an improvement over Super Y. Nice to see collaboration with very good clubs like AFC and Ambush. One would wonder if will see future SCCL teams? I think you will see a dramatic announcement this spring from SCCL. Look for a third and fourth division. Look for some of GA Soccer’s most loyal smaller clubs to defect and joint SCCL. Agreed I believe there will at least be a 3rd division added for next Fall. I also thing those additional "Summer League" clubs are going to be invited to join SCCL (ie. AFC, Ambush, etc...). They are kind of telegraphing the other club invites by including them in the summer league to begin with. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 21, 2020 11:03:41 GMT -5
Meanwhile KSA still getting things done in the National League.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 12:01:07 GMT -5
If AFC defects from NPL for SCCL in the fall, is the girls South Atlantic NPL done? The league lost 3 teams last year (added one) and is losing 2 so far this year.
If SA NPL folds, what happens with UFA Forsyth Premier and SSA's 1.5 team (can't call it 1st team with boys U13&14 in DA and the CF Premier ECNL situation)? Would they try to join DPL on the girls side? UFA Norcross doesn't look like it deserves displacement from SCCL-1. Would SSA SCCL and shift the SCCL team to SCCL-P and SCCL-P to 3rd division?
Also, AFC would defintely need to be 1st division SCCL if so. Ambush I don't know...
Overall, this could make the SCCL stronger/more competitive.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jan 21, 2020 12:47:13 GMT -5
If AFC defects from NPL for SCCL in the fall, is the girls South Atlantic NPL done? The league lost 3 teams last year (added one) and is losing 2 so far this year. If SA NPL folds, what happens with UFA Forsyth Premier and SSA's 1.5 team (can't call it 1st team with boys U13&14 in DA and the CF Premier ECNL situation)? Would they try to join DPL on the girls side? UFA Norcross doesn't look like it deserves displacement from SCCL-1. Would SSA SCCL and shift the SCCL team to SCCL-P and SCCL-P to 3rd division? Also, AFC would defintely need to be 1st division SCCL if so. Ambush I don't know... Overall, this could make the SCCL stronger/more competitive. Note i'm not arguing just asking, is this suggesting that "SCCL-1" turn into the alternative to NPL(or the new South Atlantic NPL)? AFC won a few brackets in the fall in NPL, would feel like going down to SCCL as a whole would be a step backwards unless the South Atlantic NPL was just going away with Carolina teams leaving. In effect it would bump any club's team with one in all of NPL/SCCL-1/SCCL-P down, including ones that likely don't deserve to be bumped. Might leave a lot of people unhappy. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 13:27:21 GMT -5
It can certainly be debated that its a step down, but if so wouldn't they then make the SCCL league stronger?
My retort...
Maybe all 3 join the DPL league with NTH? That could be a good alternative, but would NTH "allow" it? Is there any news out of DPL really?
Regarding NPL...On the boys side, their best finishes are one 3rd and one 4th place. They are LAST place in both boys DA age groups.
On the girls side their 06's are undeniably strong and will likely win their bracket (7 games remaining). The 01's won their bracket but they're done, so there's no step backwards for them. The 05's will likely finish 2nd (Wake has 3 games to make up 2 points, they lead currently in GD, and Charlotte Ind North is 10 points behind with 4 games remaining). Their girls 2nd teams generally wouldn't be suited for SCCL-1, one of their Gold teams is in the top 1/3 of NL, but other than the 03 and up, they're an Athena B-C level. So for the 03's their 2nd team would likely want to stay in NL (hopefully they're smarter than AFU there, but AFU really wanted to prove something in SCCL-P this fall).
The question is would it be a good strategic move for AFC to align itself with the Big 6 (thus becoming the "Big 7")? AFC is currently a US Club-first club but are still basically apart from the Big 6. How well are the Big 6 selling SCCL? Remember they're selling it as an alternative to NL. If you believe some posters...very well.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jan 21, 2020 13:28:36 GMT -5
like the Georgia Soccer league medals. The GA Soccer league medals were one step above the ribbons given out at elementary school field day. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jan 21, 2020 13:28:41 GMT -5
If AFC defects from NPL for SCCL in the fall, is the girls South Atlantic NPL done? The league lost 3 teams last year (added one) and is losing 2 so far this year. If SA NPL folds, what happens with UFA Forsyth Premier and SSA's 1.5 team (can't call it 1st team with boys U13&14 in DA and the CF Premier ECNL situation)? Would they try to join DPL on the girls side? UFA Norcross doesn't look like it deserves displacement from SCCL-1. Would SSA SCCL and shift the SCCL team to SCCL-P and SCCL-P to 3rd division? Also, AFC would defintely need to be 1st division SCCL if so. Ambush I don't know... Overall, this could make the SCCL stronger/more competitive. Why would AFC defect from NPL? Why wouldn't they have NPL and SCCL? If SCCL is lower NPL/Upper Classic I/Athena A, and SCCL-P is Classic I/II and Athena A/B teams it is likely they already have a team in GA soccer that will qualify to be the SCCL or SCCL-P team. I know for a fact that they got plenty of boys teams (most age groups 3 teams at least), and I assume for girls they got at least 2 teams per age group. They should be fine. Just some of the stuff that is going on or I believe is about to go on in the SSA Coweta location is probably going to drive a ton more players to MOBA and AFC anyway. If the coaches at that SSA location I think are leaving actually leave, then it will be a mass exodus from that location. It boils down to SSA just not treating these coaches very well or fairly. I am betting some of them leave after the spring. I still don't understand why SSA Coweta continues to stay with SSA. I think they need to go back to being Coweta Cannons or merge with AFC. They get no benefit from being in SSA while the Central/Cobb location reaps all the money and benefits and they pay enough at the Cobb location to get good coaches and more importantly enough of them where they are not spread thin unlike the Coweta location and a lot of other branch locations. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 13:39:18 GMT -5
Its just a case of me "reading between the lines" with the SCCL summer league and another poster mentioning new clubs joining SCCL.
Regarding defecting from NPL...I would guess because there's only 6 teams left in the bracket on the girls side? The NPL was previously a 10-team NC/SC/GA league when it moved from adjunct to a primary league, and now its down to 3 in GA and 2 in NC and one in TN (now with no Charlotte middle-ground). With the league with a net loss of 4 teams over 2 years, it feels like the writing is on the wall.
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 14:03:51 GMT -5
Can someone recap the reasons for formation of SCCL? So you didn’t have to play in R3PL. Period. But those teams were not in srpl. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 14:04:46 GMT -5
They were in Athena a and b
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 14:07:38 GMT -5
Its just a case of me "reading between the lines" with the SCCL summer league and another poster mentioning new clubs joining SCCL. Regarding defecting from NPL...I would guess because there's only 6 teams left in the bracket on the girls side? The NPL was previously a 10-team NC/SC/GA league when it moved from adjunct to a primary league, and now its down to 3 in GA and 2 in NC and one in TN (now with no Charlotte middle-ground). With the league with a net loss of 4 teams over 2 years, it feels like the writing is on the wall. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 14:09:13 GMT -5
They will just grab the next teams down and further dilute the talent. Is there no over league that can stop thos local fiefdom madness?
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 14:30:02 GMT -5
So you didn’t have to play in R3PL. Period. But those teams were not in srpl. Short memory? SCCL club teams in Fall 2017 Girls R3PL: events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=60008
U14: GSA SOUTH 04G PREMIER CONCORDE FIRE ELITE NASA TOPHAT NTH TOPHAT 04 N U15: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 03 GOLD U16: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 2002 NAVY ATLANTA FIRE UNITED SA U17: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NASA-TOPHAT NTH TOPHAT 01 N CONCORDE FIRE GSA NORTH 01G PREMIER U18: SOUTHERN SA SSA CHELSEA 00G UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA M UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA 0 U19: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 99 NAVY SOUTHERN SA SSA CHELSEA 99 |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jan 21, 2020 14:34:26 GMT -5
I can only see AFC dropping NPL in favor of SCCL because of travel. SCCL would definitely be less travel for them with how NPL is becoming spread out. Would it be possible for AFC to add SCCL & SCCL-P for their 2nd & third teams? Essentially first team would be NPL, second team SCCL-1 and third team SCCL-P? This would essentially be the same as the other clubs being DA/ECNL first team, SCCL-1 second team & SCCL-P third team.
I don't know much about Ambush, but I do believe they would fit as an SCCL team, at least competitively.
If AFC and/or Ambush are added to SCCL-1, I wonder how that changes scheduling. Would they increase the league to 10 teams and schedule flat (18 games per season)? Would they split the league into divisions? It's all very interesting to speculate about, and I will be interested to see how the league changes for Fall 2020.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 14:56:20 GMT -5
like the Georgia Soccer league medals. The GA Soccer league medals were one step above the ribbons given out at elementary school field day. Didn't know that. Unfortunate. I assumed they would use similar medals to state/academy cup (which are nice). |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jan 21, 2020 15:28:58 GMT -5
The GA Soccer league medals were one step above the ribbons given out at elementary school field day. Didn't know that. Unfortunate. I assumed they would use similar medals to state/academy cup (which are nice). Yeah those things were a joke. I expected at least Tournament type medals. They were tiny cheaply made medals with very cheap ribbon as well. At least they were after last Spring's season. Haven't seen them since, but I assume they are still a joke. |
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Post by onemoresoccermom on Jan 21, 2020 15:38:17 GMT -5
Didn't know that. Unfortunate. I assumed they would use similar medals to state/academy cup (which are nice). Yeah those things were a joke. I expected at least Tournament type medals. They were tiny cheaply made medals with very cheap ribbon as well. At least they were after last Spring's season. Haven't seen them sense, but I assume they are still a joke. My daughter has a rec tournament medal nicer than the one GA Soccer gave her team for winning the athena bracket. (no offense intended to recreational ball - she loved her rec teams & tournaments!) |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 16:11:52 GMT -5
Carnival medals  |
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