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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 20:24:19 GMT -5
But those teams were not in srpl. Short memory? SCCL club teams in Fall 2017 Girls R3PL: events.gotsport.com/events/Default.aspx?EventID=60008
U14: GSA SOUTH 04G PREMIER CONCORDE FIRE ELITE NASA TOPHAT NTH TOPHAT 04 N U15: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 03 GOLD U16: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 2002 NAVY ATLANTA FIRE UNITED SA U17: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NASA-TOPHAT NTH TOPHAT 01 N CONCORDE FIRE GSA NORTH 01G PREMIER U18: SOUTHERN SA SSA CHELSEA 00G UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA M UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY UFA 0 U19: UNITED FUTBOL ACADEMY NTH TOPHAT 99 NAVY SOUTHERN SA SSA CHELSEA 99 |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jan 21, 2020 20:25:32 GMT -5
I had forgotten how few wins those teams had. That is why the sccl came about. They self relegated.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jan 21, 2020 20:35:00 GMT -5
I can only see AFC dropping NPL in favor of SCCL because of travel. SCCL would definitely be less travel for them with how NPL is becoming spread out. Would it be possible for AFC to add SCCL & SCCL-P for their 2nd & third teams? Essentially first team would be NPL, second team SCCL-1 and third team SCCL-P? This would essentially be the same as the other clubs being DA/ECNL first team, SCCL-1 second team & SCCL-P third team. I don't know much about Ambush, but I do believe they would fit as an SCCL team, at least competitively. If AFC and/or Ambush are added to SCCL-1, I wonder how that changes scheduling. Would they increase the league to 10 teams and schedule flat (18 games per season)? Would they split the league into divisions? It's all very interesting to speculate about, and I will be interested to see how the league changes for Fall 2020. Doesn't SCCL make the club have a team in every age bracket? I'm not sure Ambush has the depth to field an SCCL-1 team in every age bracket, not without just promoting the Classic I or II/Athena A or B teams up. They don't have a Piedmont/NL team at each. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 21, 2020 20:59:16 GMT -5
I had forgotten how few wins those teams had. That is why the sccl came about. They self relegated. 1) there were plenty of non-SCCL teams that had fewer wins 2) pathetic to call 7-9 game schedules "a season" You can tout your new and improved NL all you want, but you wouldn't even have that improved league without the formation of SCCL. The big clubs' exodus was the impetus for change. I know that the splitting of teams and leagues is making everything crazy and you don't like it, but to take potshots at those teams, which were KIDS playing the game they love is low. I should expect it from you by now, but I still find your behavior abhorrent. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 21, 2020 22:40:26 GMT -5
Yep, the big 5-6 would have teams relegated and other big 5 teams would take their place. There were typically at most 1-2 smaller clubs in the R3PL brackets (Inter a lot because they are #8 in size).
The big 5 pulling out of the USYS logistical nightmare (as many have called it) made it so there little clubs could have a turn. It's a win-win for everyone except GA Soccer as an organization (less $$).
Not sure why the animosity toward the big 5 (now 6) and the SCCL.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jan 22, 2020 7:19:11 GMT -5
Agree with what you say but then on the flip side the big 5 should focus on themselves and stop trying to alter state cup by filling their 3rd or 4th level teams with their players on us club teams.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jan 22, 2020 10:28:55 GMT -5
That's so 2018...
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Post by coffee on Mar 9, 2020 9:27:33 GMT -5
NTH Boys will participate in the SCCL Summer League but not the girls. Tryouts for Tophat girls were scheduled for March 1, but on Feb 28 they sent and email, “Our girls program, Tophat, will not be participating in the SCCL Summer League for the summer of 2020.“
Kind of surprising. No explanation given.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Mar 9, 2020 9:47:44 GMT -5
Go on a non soccer related vacation or if you want to stay engaged in soccer go to soccer camp instead
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Post by atv on Mar 9, 2020 9:51:42 GMT -5
I would suspect other summer training programs they have planned (announced or unannounced) will conflict.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 9, 2020 11:25:40 GMT -5
NTH Boys will participate in the SCCL Summer League but not the girls. Tryouts for Tophat girls were scheduled for March 1, but on Feb 28 they sent and email, “Our girls program, Tophat, will not be participating in the SCCL Summer League for the summer of 2020.“ Kind of surprising. No explanation given. Hearing they may be dropping the whole Girls summer program.... Barely enough players to form 7v7 teams let alone 11v11 with subs |
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Mar 9, 2020 12:39:58 GMT -5
You can call it whatever you want. Super Y died because higher level
Players didn’t play. SCCL won’t be any different. I don’t understand why they started this. Just because it has a new name, it is still the same clubs and same pool of people in our area.
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Post by honeybadger on Mar 9, 2020 12:57:44 GMT -5
Amen
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Post by atlfutboldad on Mar 9, 2020 12:59:50 GMT -5
I didn't think this would be all that successful. Why would they assume more people want to do this than Super-Y? Like soccerfutbolfam said, as they get older, the better players generally skip summer ball. This league should be primarily focused on the younger ages. But for the clubs that DO participate (I imagine 3-4 clubs on the girls side from 07 up, they need to schedule 6-8 games, even if it means playing a team 3 times). Then have tournament mid-July to play for a medal. |
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Mar 9, 2020 13:06:26 GMT -5
I didn't think this would be all that successful. Why would they assume more people want to do this than Super-Y? Like soccerfutbolfam said, as they get older, the better players generally skip summer ball. This league should be primarily focused on the younger ages. But for the clubs that DO participate (I imagine 3-4 clubs on the girls side from 07 up, they need to schedule 6-8 games, even if it means playing a team 3 times). Then have tournament mid-July to play for a medal. Yes!! For Super Y you had the oppty for the USLX (individuals) if selected. And honestly, I know kids who went and it was a great experience. You also have nationals for the teams that win. But then that is in late fall/early winter which makes no sense (unless you are playing with the team you play with for club) I don’t see SCCL summer as anything more than - helping younger kids and giving clubs a valid reason to start talking to kids outside of their organization before the approved time for tryouts. |
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Post by soccerdad76 on Mar 11, 2020 1:28:26 GMT -5
They should do 7v7 for all ages on a smaller field... more touches, hopefully less heat stress
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Post by greenmonkey on Mar 11, 2020 9:59:18 GMT -5
Personally I wish it was a mini summer league of 3v3 tournaments instead
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Post by atlfutboldad on Mar 11, 2020 10:07:23 GMT -5
I like the 7v7 league idea. I've seen high school kids do it. Plus it incorporates goalkeeping like indoor/futsal (use U10 or U12 sized goals).
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 11, 2020 12:16:09 GMT -5
I've always thought that the summer should be a break from soccer (well, organized leagues at the very least).
But Super Y, SCCL, come along and feed into that "keeping up with the Jones's" mentality. I've inquired with others about why they are doing it... and it usually includes "well... player X, Y, and Z are doing it" or "we are hoping the next years coach will see our player and their dedication". Then their is the "it will get more touches on the ball" aspect, but you can get that doing camps or 3v3 tourneys or even practicing at home or with friends.
It's hard to resist when you see others doing it and you're afraid your kid will fall behind. We tried it one season with one of our children and they didn't enjoy it much at all. Lesson learned on our part.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 11, 2020 12:24:02 GMT -5
My issues have been once your kid is on a DA team or playing in post season tournaments (like regionals before etc) -- you then end up with very little time off, and really only the month of July off.
kids basically play now aug - june... It is ok to take july off! be a kid, swim, play tennis, doing something else with your life!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 11, 2020 12:36:01 GMT -5
My issues have been once your kid is on a DA team or playing in post season tournaments (like regionals before etc) -- you then end up with very little time off, and really only the month of July off. kids basically play now aug - june... It is ok to take july off! be a kid, swim, play tennis, doing something else with your life! I'm glad you brought this up. DA was initially supposed to offer 10 months of playing, but in looking at the end dates for the showcase/playoffs for both the Boys n Girls: Boys: June 21st for the showcase and July 12th for playoffs Girls: June 26th for the showcase and July 12th for playoffs That means should you be lucky enough to go deep into the playoffs, you could be saddles with just over 3 weeks off before you're back at it the first week of August 😱😱 |
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Post by mistergrinch on Mar 11, 2020 13:12:33 GMT -5
Personally I wish it was a mini summer league of 3v3 tournaments instead It's a shame that there aren't a ton of 3v3s throughout the summer anymore - there used to be one almost every weekend, and they were a blast for the kids. |
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Post by TheMadOx on Mar 11, 2020 13:28:32 GMT -5
I really hope that the SCCL Summer League is great! So far, SCCL has put out good products in it's young existence...Obviously time will tell.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 11, 2020 13:30:34 GMT -5
I really hope that the SCCL Summer League is great! So far, SCCL has put out good products in it's young existence...Obviously time will tell. I hope so too. My little one is planning to play. When my older one did it, it seemed like the kids were less stressed about results and played more for fun. The little one is doing it more for the training...really good coach. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Mar 11, 2020 16:32:40 GMT -5
I remember playing against the Internationals, an ECNL team from the Midwest in the Super Y Finals in Florida. Actually it was my daughter playing.
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