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Post by soccergurl on Jan 14, 2020 21:46:46 GMT -5
i hear the atlutd brass are having big hush hush meetings with everybody anybody with info to share
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Post by hattrick07 on Jan 15, 2020 9:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by atv on Jan 15, 2020 10:07:23 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 15, 2020 10:12:43 GMT -5
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Post by soccergurl on Jan 15, 2020 10:34:15 GMT -5
like ya'll i only know it was academy folk nothing else waiting on other folk to spill
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 11:06:34 GMT -5
Homegrown signing...? 😉😉
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 14:22:04 GMT -5
So I looked into this and I think I may have figured out what we're all referring to. This is what I have garnered so far from a couple of parents. AU is going to be implementing some changes for their U17s and U19s next year. The broad gist is this. They will no longer keep two teams at the U16/U17 age groups. So the U17s in waiting will no longer exist. It will be just one team. AU will take the top 2003s/2004s with the odd 2005 to make the U19s and the top 2004s/2005s to make the U17s. So for those of you wondering… yes there will be more cuts than normal😥😥
Secondly, and I would guess more impactful is the fact that they will no longer be practicing in the afternoon/evenings as is usual, but instead will be practicing in the mornings with the MLS - first team and the USL – second team. The teams will be done with their day by 3pm – 6pm depending on certain other factors(still trying to get more info on this portion). To combat the morning practice time, one parent said AU would provide some type of transportation another wasn’t sure, so not truly 100% sure which is correct/incorrect. Will share more as I know more… 😱😱
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Post by hateallthesechanges on Jan 15, 2020 14:36:31 GMT -5
So I looked into this and I think I may have figured out what we're all referring to. This is what I have garnered so far from a couple of parents. AU is going to be implementing some changes for their U17s and U19s next year. The broad gist is this. They will no longer keep two teams at the U16/U17 age groups. So the U17s in waiting will no longer exist. It will be just one team. AU will take the top 2003s/2004s with the odd 2005 to make the U19s and the top 2004s/2005s to make the U17s. So for those of you wondering… yes there will be more cuts than normal😥😥 Secondly, and I would guess more impactful is the fact that they will no longer be practicing in the afternoon/evenings as is usual, but instead will be practicing in the mornings with the MLS - first team and the USL – second team. The teams will be done with their day by 3pm – 6pm depending on certain other factors(still trying to get more info on this portion). To combat the morning practice time, one parent said AU would provide some type of transportation another wasn’t sure, so not truly 100% sure which is correct/incorrect. Will share more as I know more… 😱😱 Ummm... What about school??? |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 15:23:41 GMT -5
So some type of school solution has been presented. Not sure of details yet, no practices so can't discuss on the sidelines. Will have to wait for calls/texts to be returned...
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 15, 2020 18:01:43 GMT -5
So some type of school solution has been presented. Not sure of details yet, no practices so can't discuss on the sidelines. Will have to wait for calls/texts to be returned... This is only for the U19's? Or also U17's? The morning practices I mean. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 18:40:04 GMT -5
So some type of school solution has been presented. Not sure of details yet, no practices so can't discuss on the sidelines. Will have to wait for calls/texts to be returned... This is only for the U19's? Or also U17's? The morning practices I mean. Both age groups across the 2003s, 2004s, 2005s, so both teams will field lots of younger players and learn on the fly to play against older boys... |
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Post by soccergurl on Jan 16, 2020 8:06:09 GMT -5
So I looked into this and I think I may have figured out what we're all referring to. This is what I have garnered so far from a couple of parents. AU is going to be implementing some changes for their U17s and U19s next year. The broad gist is this. They will no longer keep two teams at the U16/U17 age groups. So the U17s in waiting will no longer exist. It will be just one team. AU will take the top 2003s/2004s with the odd 2005 to make the U19s and the top 2004s/2005s to make the U17s. So for those of you wondering… yes there will be more cuts than normal😥😥 Secondly, and I would guess more impactful is the fact that they will no longer be practicing in the afternoon/evenings as is usual, but instead will be practicing in the mornings with the MLS - first team and the USL – second team. The teams will be done with their day by 3pm – 6pm depending on certain other factors(still trying to get more info on this portion). To combat the morning practice time, one parent said AU would provide some type of transportation another wasn’t sure, so not truly 100% sure which is correct/incorrect. Will share more as I know more… 😱😱 thank u |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Jan 19, 2020 12:35:30 GMT -5
Would be bad PR if the education piece is not a solid and viable option. Most if not all those players will ever see a pro game.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 21, 2020 9:27:15 GMT -5
Apparently this weekend at AU, the current U17-DA team played the U15-DA team. Significant due to the merging of teams next season. Here is the first hand feedback from one of the parents(shared with her permission):
Honestly, I may need to start reaching out to our old club. I do not think little man or many of his teammates will be retained. The U15s are a good bunch, strong, fast and they move the ball around very well. They scored first and in the 2nd or 3rd period(20 mins each) we clawed one back to equalize. We ultimately ended on a 1-1 tie and since you have to have a 'winner' they went to penalty kicks. They won. What really stunned me was we had a full bench and due to injuries they had only 1 maybe 2 subs. I know you tell me to be positive but I think this might be the end of the road for him. Now we have to refocus on college options.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 21, 2020 10:05:35 GMT -5
Was going to chime in on this before, but given the strength of the 05s -- puts the 04s in a bad spot for sure for next season.
the 17-DA team is a quality team though!
And to clarify this was not against the 04 team, this was the u17DA team?
Will be very interesting to see how many 04s remain next season, the first u12 group at AU.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jan 21, 2020 12:53:22 GMT -5
I agree that the current 05's are a good bunch of players. The main thing missing on the 04's DA squad is the ability to finish, consistency, and passion (GRITT). The first half the 05's did have the advantage. Once the 04's made changes in the 2nd part of the scrimmage by adding two forwards that pressed, the 04's dominated the 2nd half and ended up with an equalizer. I was more upset with the PK's. It seemed like the 04's took it as a joke (like the end of a practice) and wanted to take the most creative PK trick shot. This is not cool and didnt do themselves any justice. Maybe this has something to do with it. Mindset. They might have the ability but lack mindset?? Do you get that by playing games??
Yes, size is also a factor. The DA squad do have some very technical and smart players but due to current size they have a lot they must over come. Plus, the players that do shine get moved to the U17X squad so the DA team is left with no finishers or key positions. Injuries is a factor as well. I feel if you did add a couple of 05 finishers and a player or two to the DA squad they could go toe to toe with the X team. (??) This was proven when the current DA vs the X two weeks ago, for 30 mins it was back and forth and the DA squad did have several missed opportunities which ended up taking the wind out of the sails and the X ended up dominating the DA squad for the remaining 2 qtrs. I guess it could be the depth. Not sure.
Now with that said, you have to look at the past mins played. It's hard to develop a player if they don't get mins in games. My question is if you have a handful of players that are close to making the X team and could challenge for starting spots but have 500-1000 less mins in game time over the years, imagine what they would be if they actually had those mins. Maybe they need more games like local tournaments, inter club scrimmages etc. Most of the clubs/ teams in the area kids are playing over 30+ games a year. Regular season plus 2-4 tournaments. I'm not sure but I would think you would want to play in as many games as you can (within reason) to get the game time in. They are technically sound but lack play time. I don't know. I have no clue.
Yes, I get AU is very competitive environment and I by no means have a coaching license nor "develop" players. I'm just an Uber driver, psychologist, and motivator for my player. I can only comment on what I see any by no means taking a stab at AU. They are an amazing club and I think Tony is one of the best around. I really have no clue. If I did, then I probably wouldn't be chatting with you all right now.
Main thing is to have positive support to the player. Help her/him to overcome by positive reinforcement. I wish all the boys/ girls the best of luck in this amazing sport.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 21, 2020 13:46:07 GMT -5
allthingsoccer thanks for sharing your insights. You also bring up some very good points those of us on the outside may or may not have thought about. Which reminds me, if memory serves me right, isn't this the age group year that suffered the loss of a complete year of training and games? What i'm referring to is the age mandate where they went from U12 and to line things up skipped the U13 year and jumped right to the U14 year. We may be seeing the effects of that realignment in the age mandate. All in All I wish you all the best, I know in these settings it can be cut-throat and challenging for the lads, especially with the spotlight on them. Just keep championing your kid and his successes...
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jan 21, 2020 13:50:58 GMT -5
allthingsoccer thanks for sharing your insights. You also bring up some very good points those of us on the outside may or may not have thought about. Which reminds me, if memory serves me right, isn't this the age group year that suffered the loss of a complete year of training and games? What i'm referring to is the age mandate where they went from U12 and to line things up skipped the U13 year and jumped right to the U14 year. We may be seeing the effects of that realignment in the age mandate. All in All I wish you all the best, I know in these settings it can be cut-throat and challenging for the lads, especially with the spotlight on them. Just keep championing your kid and his successes... Yes, i do think you are right. Some kids did miss some game time during this switch. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 21, 2020 18:07:55 GMT -5
Bottom line kids want to play, once you stop playing minutes it’s extremely difficult to continue to maintain the love and work ethic for the game.
But it’s an interesting dilemma for many - play meaningful minutes elsewhere or stay and sit at AU. Many kids have stayed and progressed and many have left and excelled elsewhere. Free is hard to leave, but sometimes you just need a change of scenery. New coach or new environment. At the end of the day - you need to find a place that believes in you and instills confidence in your ability to play.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 21, 2020 18:19:42 GMT -5
Bottom line kids want to play, once you stop playing minutes it’s extremely difficult to continue to maintain the love and work ethic for the game. But it’s an interesting dilemma for many - play meaningful minutes elsewhere or stay and sit at AU. Many kids have stayed and progressed and many have left and excelled elsewhere. Free is hard to leave, but sometimes you just need a change of scenery. New coach or new environment. At the end of the day - you need to find a place that believes in you and instills confidence in your ability to play. Everything that you said here is 100% on. I think the confidence is big. Coaches don't need to blow sunshine at you, but they need to show interest and give feedback specific to the player. Not every coach and player will match well, but I think showing belief and interest in helping improve the player provides the motivation that the players need even if minutes are less than desired. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jan 22, 2020 10:48:48 GMT -5
Bottom line kids want to play, once you stop playing minutes it’s extremely difficult to continue to maintain the love and work ethic for the game. But it’s an interesting dilemma for many - play meaningful minutes elsewhere or stay and sit at AU. Many kids have stayed and progressed and many have left and excelled elsewhere. Free is hard to leave, but sometimes you just need a change of scenery. New coach or new environment. At the end of the day - you need to find a place that believes in you and instills confidence in your ability to play. You are right. Sometimes a change might be the better option. Ultimately, you have to trust the system you are in. Trust that the coaches have your players best interest in mind. Unfortunately, you still see politics in sports and sometimes very challenging to overcome. Do they get it wrong sometimes? Yes for sure. We all do. No one is perfect but hopefully the system you are in provides clear and honest pathway for development. |
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