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Post by soccernotfootball on Jan 14, 2020 21:49:26 GMT -5
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Post by soccerdaddy on Jan 15, 2020 7:25:08 GMT -5
What can Atlanta United do with the 3 spots now open? Sorry, I keep forgetting as there are too many rules for MLS rosters.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 7:57:25 GMT -5
If memory serves me right, I believe you're only allowed a finite # of "international" slots on an MLS first team. I think it's currently 8(may have changed with expansions teams). But take Gressel, prior to getting married he took up one international slot. Once he got married and became a permanent resident, that freed up an Int'l slot to pick up another non-American player. So to answer your original question, it allows AU to go abroad to scoop up 3 more non-American players... 🤪🤪
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 15, 2020 9:14:57 GMT -5
Yea, it's like 7 or 8 international slots per team, but they can be traded so some teams have more. You often see teams trade a slot for GAM or TAM money....
I think by federal law you can't discriminated against permanent resident and/or green card holders, hence I guess you can say a loop hole getting these players green cards.
I like the rule of limiting international slots to allow domestic players slots, but you could easily fill a starting 11 with internationals and green card holders. Should be interesting to see the starting 11 next season and how many are domestic -- Guzan and who else?
It's getting harder and harder out there for the domestic player -- fewer opportunities in college and fewer in the MLS. The USL will become our domestic league.
Granted the EPL only requires 8 domestic players and allows up to 17 non-'homegrown' players in each squad. But we are talking about arguable the best league in the world.
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Post by soccerdaddy on Jan 15, 2020 9:41:38 GMT -5
Yea, it's like 7 or 8 international slots per team, but they can be traded so some teams have more. You often see teams trade a slot for GAM or TAM money.... I think by federal law you can't discriminated against permanent resident and/or green card holders, hence I guess you can say a loop hole getting these players green cards. I like the rule of limiting international slots to allow domestic players slots, but you could easily fill a starting 11 with internationals and green card holders. Should be interesting to see the starting 11 next season and how many are domestic -- Guzan and who else? It's getting harder and harder out there for the domestic player -- fewer opportunities in college and fewer in the MLS. The USL will become our domestic league. Granted the EPL only requires 8 domestic players and allows up to 17 non-'homegrown' players in each squad. But we are talking about arguable the best league in the world. Thanks for the information! So, the best players born in the US will go to another country to play because the opportunity is better. I get that totally. However, if they later decide to play for the MLS, will they be considered an “International Player”? You would think MLS would pay more $ to keep great players from leaving the US. Still sounds like they don’t care as they control the market or can’t offer player development. I think Futsal Gawdess posting on MLS Complicated Roster Rules is an indication of how ridiculous the MLS is 🤣 gasoccerforum.com/thread/4512/guide-mls-complicated-roster-rules
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 15, 2020 10:04:04 GMT -5
Miles Robinson is a domestic player for AU that should be starting 11 unless something happened that I missed.
I do wonder how these guys get "permanent resident" status. Seems so easy for them compared to others. Even doctors I know struggle for years to get the right visas and permanent resident cards.
I doubt US players going to play in Europe (like Pulisic, Adams, etc) would be international players from MLS standpoint. I think it matters what your citizenship is and legal resident status, not where you have been living, but what do I know. Their rules are tough to follow.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 15, 2020 10:52:22 GMT -5
It would be through an EB-2 or EB-3 visa, which is the same Visa allocated to those foreigners with "extraordinary ability" within the fields of arts, sciences and advanced degree professionals. How does that apply to sport/soccer you ask? US Immigration considers a "talented soccer" player under the category of "Arts" They have to have a legitimate tendered offer of a contract from the MLS club amongst other things in a process known as - PERM labor certification. Gives immigration a chance to make sure things are on the up and up. Much like how marriages are "checked" by immigration. Once you finalize that process, you tend to get some type of permanent residency within 12 - 24 months... soccerdaddy The International Player tag is for those who are not US citizens or permanent residents, so it doesn't matter if you leave and come back(e.g. Pulisic)...
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