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Post by rifle on Feb 9, 2020 10:45:09 GMT -5
Roads are not safe and tournament director wont even answer his phone. Fields are not fine. Falling on a frozen turf field is like hitting concrete. You couldn't even see the lines at the 10am games. This is amusing. Falling on frozen turf is like falling on concrete. Ask the Green Bay Packers in the 1970’s. Rubber granule field turf with a sprinkling of snow on the other hand is slippery and soft as ever, minus the turf burns. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 9, 2020 11:01:12 GMT -5
I’m assuming the kids had fun though?
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Post by Shesakeeper on Feb 9, 2020 11:11:43 GMT -5
Our u9 boys LOVED playing in the snow! Well, until end of second half when they were all frozen. Lol I’m assuming the kids had fun though? |
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Post by greenmonkey on Feb 9, 2020 11:15:21 GMT -5
I thought AFU told everyone to stay home?
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Post by soccernoleuk on Feb 9, 2020 11:37:54 GMT -5
I thought AFU told everyone to stay home? They did, but it wasn't until about Noon that they sent the message. My guess is that was mainly for ECNL teams with frendlies in the afternoon, or other teams participating in frendlies and not tournaments. I am not 100% positive, but I also believe AFU told teams at the tournaments to go home at Noon. If tournaments wouldn't cancel their afternoon games then they were to just forfeit. Again I am not 100% positive on that, but it is what I heard. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 10, 2020 8:24:26 GMT -5
We were in Marietta. Field conditions sucked (on turf) but it was playable. Roads were fine there and back. I expect to get slammed for this comment but I've read the forum long enough to know - had SSA canceled the tournament beforehand, all of you would've bizatched about that, too. I'm with you too much complaining on this board. My kid was at Hubert in Acworth, and we were getting snowed on coming in to a mid-morning game but the roads were fine. The roads were fine the whole time I was in Acworth, and by the time we were leaving at Noonish once they cancelled the afternoon the temperature had risen another 2-3 degrees and it was raining and about to move out completely. In my opinion the only reason SSA cancelled the afternoon was because other clubs like AFU decided to pull their teams out because of little snowflake parents. Also since a lot of the referees were snowflakes also and called out and didn't show up they were begging for referees, and that probably had something to do with it also. They should not have cancelled the afternoon games. The forecast (which was already happening) called for the snow/rain to be out by Noon-1pm and the high to be about 38-40 degrees with no issues on the roads. The other clubs that refused to come forced their hands and screwed over all the other teams in the tournament. So shame on the other clubs for pulling out. The Winter Weather Advisory itself said that the roads would not be impacted as temperatures were to stay above freezing. It was correct and snowflake parents, referees, and clubs forced SSA's hand. I fault SSA for a lot of stuff (my kids plays for them) but this was not on them. This was on everyone else refusing to show up when the roads were fine. Our boys loved playing their first game in the snow. There were no injuries. It was sloppy soccer, but it is a game they will always remember and they had a blast and they are 13 year old teenagers. I could see maybe cancelling U8/U9/U10 or so just because it was so cold but the older kids were fine and really everyone was fine. People just panic too much. |
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Post by greenmonkey on Feb 10, 2020 9:01:05 GMT -5
“ ... realize that WE PAY THESE CLUBS. They would crumble if all the parents would support each other and realize that their livelihood depends on us.”
We pay them for the services they provide. They provide coaching and league play and we are told about additional tournament participation prior to signing our annual commitment letter.
Just like any other service provider I can’t sign a contract and pay them for a service they provide and then say but it has to be on my terms.
AFU took the responsibility away from the parents and made the decision for them regarding tournament participation. And I am sure now there are parents at AFU who want to know were their refund money is for the tournament money they paid for but didn’t participate in. SSA isn’t giving it back to the teams so is AFU giving is back to their teams out of their own club funds?
The power of parents pulling together and supporting each other is called Rec Soccer and it is available at everyone one of these 5-8 big clubs that this board seems to exist solely for the parents to complain about.
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Post by guest on Feb 10, 2020 9:17:40 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, Gwinnett Lacrosse started Jamboree games Sat morning but cancelled about 10 when the snow started piling up. The director was blasted both by coaches like me who wanted to get the games in, but also by parents who were ‘outraged that you put my 8 year old’s life in danger by not calling the game and forcing us to drive in these life-threatening conditions’. Ha, sounds just like some posts on here. Basketball played and there was even a Swim Atlanta meet (yes it’s indoors but you still had to drive there).
Darned if you cancel, darned if you don’t. I call it the Both-Ways Bizatch.
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Post by greenmonkey on Feb 10, 2020 9:44:11 GMT -5
“Let's go back to making sure little Sally has the one slight edge because I made her play in freezing conditions. How else will she get the full ride scholarship that DOC promised me when he recruited me from another club.”
Since we are talking about Sally and the DOC that promised her a scholarship when she was recruited.
All the Sally’s this weekend are under the age of 15 so I’m guessing Sally didn’t make this decision to leave her club alone since Sally isn’t driving herself to practices yet. Also pretty sure the DOCs who recruit all these Sally’s must talk to Sally’s parents at some point since it’s also likely that Sally isn’t paying her own club fees and travel expenses. And I bet Sally could care less at 12,13 or even 14 where she is going to college she’s in middle school!
So to all the parents of all the Sally’s. If Sally is not enough of a stand out player on her own soccer skills then be honest ... Sally missing one game because you won’t or can’t drive her is not going to give her “that slight edge” and you know it.
Parents bash these coaches and DOCs all the time for not being honest and yet we lie to ourselves all the time about our kids commitment level and skill level and interest level.
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Post by Whistledown on Feb 10, 2020 9:51:08 GMT -5
“Let's go back to making sure little Sally has the one slight edge because I made her play in freezing conditions. How else will she get the full ride scholarship that DOC promised me when he recruited me from another club.” Since we are talking about Sally and the DOC that promised her a scholarship when she was recruited. All the Sally’s this weekend are under the age of 15 so I’m guessing Sally didn’t make this decision to leave her club alone since Sally isn’t driving herself to practices yet. Also pretty sure the DOCs who recruit all these Sally’s must talk to Sally’s parents at some point since it’s also likely that Sally isn’t paying her own club fees and travel expenses. And I bet Sally could care less at 12,13 or even 14 where she is going to college she’s in middle school! So to all the parents of all the Sally’s. If Sally is not enough of a stand out player on her own soccer skills then be honest ... Sally missing one game because you won’t or can’t drive her is not going to give her “that slight edge” and you know it. Parents bash these coaches and DOCs all the time for not being honest and yet we lie to ourselves all the time about our kids commitment level and skill level and interest level. “Let's go back to making sure little Sally has the one slight edge because I made her play in freezing conditions. How else will she get the full ride scholarship that DOC promised me when he recruited me from another club.” That was sarcasm..... |
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Post by mistergrinch on Feb 10, 2020 9:54:23 GMT -5
Cumming, Alpharetta areas had quite a bit of snow on the road just before noon (from reports of family that were out and about at that time). By 330 or so though the roads were pretty dry. Even many bridges in Forsyth county and north were nearly dry by the late afternoon. As I mentioned before it is hard to predict winter weather in Georgia due to mild temp fluctuations causing major differences in snow accumulations. 3-4 miles in any direction might be vastly different road conditions. To shame people for their judgement is a bit silly. It wasn't even snowing in most of the areas at 730 or so when many people left home for these events and predictions were for less than an inch in most areas. By 11-12 many areas had 2 inches and roads were slick. BUT to blame the tournaments for lack of judgment is equally silly. No one is mandated to show up for a tournament. Can't blame the tourney for your car damage. To blame them for not stopping games in dangerous conditions for the players on the field is a different story, but still you can pull your own kid off if you are worried enough. I couldn’t agree more! And side note, I’m not shaming anyone. However if you were in metro Atlanta and say the roads were treacherous and too bad to drive I’m calling you a liar. Again, if you can’t drive in slush stop driving at all. The world will be safer. Weather folks are the only profession where it’s ok to get it wrong most of the time. No reason to cancel the tourney until there was a reason. At 8am at my home when I left it started to snow. There was nothing on the ground. My daughter was a ref. At halftime of her first game she put her chair at midfield to mark for kickoffs. Shortly after the field was covered. However she said it was fine for play (just couldn’t see the lines). No worse than playing on a turf field in the rain. (She also played on Friday night at 8:00pm when it was actually colder than at 10AM this morn) Point I’m trying to make is don’t blame the tourneys. It is what it is. It’s a February tourney. As a parent use common sense. As a club use common sense. That seems to be what the tourneys eventually did. But we have folks saying clubs are stealing money, lawsuits being filed....come on. These folks are a little ridiculous.... Remember, though.. LSA is one of the tournaments in question, and the roads up THERE definitely got bad. Like - shovel to drive up the driveway bad. It didn't last long, but for a while it was sketchy. |
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Post by coffee on Feb 10, 2020 9:59:41 GMT -5
In Milton, within a mile of my house there were 8, or 9 abandoned vehicles left on hills. One car was flipped over onto its roof at the intersection of Hopewell and Redd. The roads were covered with several inches. Yet, I drove around carefully, and took care of my errands since I unfortunately had no sports to attend. ☹️ My wife and I always own at least one vehicle between us that can get around in winter weather.
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Post by atlsoccer on Feb 10, 2020 10:53:41 GMT -5
This is amusing. Falling on frozen turf is like falling on concrete. Ask the Green Bay Packers in the 1970’s. Rubber granule field turf with a sprinkling of snow on the other hand is slippery and soft as ever, minus the turf burns. Can't "ask the Green Bay Packers in the 1970's" because, you know, no time machine. Seriously though, the 1970's Green Bay Packers were grown men being paid millions to play. Also, they were wearing helmets and padding. So apples to oranges. If we could all move past trying to lambaste all the other parents on here, perhaps we could all realize that WE PAY THESE CLUBS. They would crumble if all the parents would support each other and realize that their livelihood depends on us. But, I digress. Let's go back to making sure little Sally has the one slight edge because I made her play in freezing conditions. How else will she get the full ride scholarship that DOC promised me when he recruited me from another club. Not that this is important, but I'd be willing to bet there are several 1970's Green Bay Packer around today, no need for the time machine. I'd also check those salary's, most likely much closer to 20-30k than millions. |
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Post by greenmonkey on Feb 10, 2020 13:06:50 GMT -5
random1 - caught your sarcasm LOL But my comments still stand for the dozens and dozens on and off the thread who actually accept what you wrote as their own reality versus the satire of soccer you intended it to be. Sally forth !!! |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 10, 2020 13:13:27 GMT -5
It just highlights the complexity of the decision to cancel tournaments. It's never easy
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Post by ultimatedad on Feb 17, 2020 15:50:09 GMT -5
Our u9 boys LOVED playing in the snow! Well, until end of second half when they were all frozen. Lol I’m assuming the kids had fun though? |
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