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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 20, 2020 17:05:56 GMT -5
Surprising this hasn't been discussed here. Liga MX is considering eliminating promotion/relegation for a trial period due to most of the 2nd tier clubs not being able to meet the minimum infrastructure requirements of the league. MLS/NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL-style set league but without the parity-creating American-style draft.
Puts a wrench in the notion that promotion/relegation leveling the playing field. I'm not a socialist, but it appears that in such a system without any sort of significant revenue-sharing...the rich appear to get richer and the poor are shut out.
No paywall (ESPN)
www.espn.com/soccer/liga-bancomer/22/blog/post/3376718/liga-mx-ending-promotion-relegation-could-have-dangerous-implications |
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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Feb 20, 2020 18:20:10 GMT -5
Surprising this hasn't been discussed here. Liga MX is considering eliminating promotion/relegation for a trial period due to most of the 2nd tier clubs not being able to meet the minimum infrastructure requirements of the league. MLS/NFL/MLB/NBA/NHL-style set league but without the parity-creating American-style draft.
Puts a wrench in the notion that promotion/relegation leveling the playing field. I'm not a socialist, but it appears that in such a system without any sort of significant revenue-sharing...the rich appear to get richer and the poor are shut out.
No paywall (ESPN)
www.espn.com/soccer/liga-bancomer/22/blog/post/3376718/liga-mx-ending-promotion-relegation-could-have-dangerous-implicationsIn the Bob Costas book Fair Ball he writes about this very issue. His example of the Yankees making the most money in Major League baseball- but fans aren't going to see them play an Intrasquad game. They're going to watch the Red Sox/Yankees, Indians/Yankees, and yes, even Devil Rays/Yankees. He wasn't advocating for an even disbursement of dollars, but enough that small market teams- Kansas City, Pittsburgh, etc could have enough for a payroll that would keep things interesting. Overall it helps the league because the revenue depends on the other organizations also fieldin a good teams. He also made the analogy that you rarely see one restaurant all by itself and flourishing. Instead, you have a number of places within a certain area that gives a better feel to the location. More people are attracted to a vibrant area vs. a place by itself. I'm with you about not taking money away from an owner who bought the team based on it's worth. But if the rest of the league folds, or tv revenue goes down, so does your investment. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 20, 2020 18:35:42 GMT -5
I think that in such a situation where your success depends on your opponent's success (thus creating rivalries), profit sharing is a necessity. Its done with great success in most US leagues (including college sports through the conferences).
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Post by rifle on Feb 20, 2020 21:25:06 GMT -5
My theory. If they’d let competitive clubs (who won on the field) participate in whatever stadium they could muster.. rather than declare a specific set as “best”.. they’d grow the game.
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Post by baller84 on Feb 20, 2020 21:34:03 GMT -5
The best soccer leagues in the world have had promotion/relegation for over a century. As an American I love it, and wish our leagues had it also, instead of that socialistic approach.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 21, 2020 0:41:36 GMT -5
Im sure the half-century suffering Chiefs fans would disagree with you. Even the ones in Kansas.  Clubs have had pro/rel it a century, qbut I think the financial disparity in rosters between the top and bottom has only been this way for less than half of that. Just my $0.02... Is possible Man Utd or Liverpool can get relegated in a given year, but they would quickly buy their way in over the next season by spending tons of money to shuffle the roster. Basically throwing money at the problem. Some clubs in their pyramid could never afford a roster to legitimately compete. I think pro/ rel really works in a system where you're scouting and developing talent. But when you're just buying it, its s pretty unfair system. Didn't Leicester City suddenly become viable because a Billionaire bought them and commit a lot of money into the club? Just imagine the same pro/rel system with a draft, so that the lowest team got a chance at the next great player... |
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Post by rifle on Feb 21, 2020 16:43:33 GMT -5
A draft treats players like cattle and suppresses salaries. Not many players come out of the draft and thrive like Julian Gressel.
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Post by baller84 on Feb 21, 2020 20:14:40 GMT -5
Im sure the half-century suffering Chiefs fans would disagree with you. Even the ones in Kansas. Clubs have had pro/rel it a century, qbut I think the financial disparity in rosters between the top and bottom has only been this way for less than half of that. Just my $0.02... Is possible Man Utd or Liverpool can get relegated in a given year, but they would quickly buy their way in over the next season by spending tons of money to shuffle the roster. Basically throwing money at the problem. Some clubs in their pyramid could never afford a roster to legitimately compete. I think pro/ rel really works in a system where you're scouting and developing talent. But when you're just buying it, its s pretty unfair system. Didn't Leicester City suddenly become viable because a Billionaire bought them and commit a lot of money into the club? Just imagine the same pro/rel system with a draft, so that the lowest team got a chance at the next great player... We can agree to disagree. Just not a fan of a socialist approach. The system in Europe has worked perfectly to the point the game today is better and more competitive in every way than ever before based on merit and the free market with rules, as there is a severe penalty (MC as recent example) when the financial fair play is violated. |
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