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Post by hotspur1 on Mar 12, 2020 13:06:12 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings about all of the cancellations. On one hand, anything we can do to slow the spread is a positive. On the other hand, If you are at risk then you should already be practicing safer behavior and should limit your time out.
The virus is here and will spread regardless of what we do. Unless we go to a mandatory 100% 14-21 day quarantine which is practically impossible. Most of the sporting events are youth that will exhibit mild to moderate cold/flu symptoms if/when affected.
While I am worried for my parents / grandparents and other at risk groups, I’m equally concerned about the economic impact this will cause. Not necessarily at the youth level but MLS, NCAA etc.
All that being said, I’ve got enough beer/bourbon/cigars and ramen noodles to last for at least three months in isolation!
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Post by atlfutboldad on Mar 12, 2020 13:12:14 GMT -5
From current statistics...stay safe.  |
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Post by soccergator on Mar 12, 2020 13:43:32 GMT -5
Working At CDC now for 20+ years, this is easily the craziest response we have been a part of.
since the 90s the fear as always been an avian strain of influenza would be the next pandemic. The mixing of viruses from birds, swine etc, and there have been major H5 virus scares. Then SARS, monkeybox, flu vaccine shortages, H1N1 and now this.
Social distancing is a good thing in this situation.
Non essential travel should be avoided.
Will leave it as this: strong leadership is extremely important and funding public health appropriately for pandemic planning, preparedness and response.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 12, 2020 13:54:24 GMT -5
Working At CDC now for 20+ years, this is easily the craziest response we have been a part of. since the 90s the fear as always been an avian strain of influenza would be the next pandemic. The mixing of viruses from birds, swine etc, and there have been major H5 virus scares. Then SARS, monkeybox, flu vaccine shortages, H1N1 and now this. Social distancing is a good thing in this situation. Non essential travel should be avoided. Will leave it as this: strong leadership is extremely important and funding public health appropriately for pandemic planning, preparedness and response. Feels like the feedback from government is vacillating between panic mode and reasonable efforts to avoid crowds, stay home if you are sick, etc. This is not just the feds response, but locals as well. How about the variety of response from large sporting groups? The statements of "avoid gatherings of 1000 or more" from some and all out no gatherings from others. The CDC and the WHO should get together and recommend things and be shouting the recommendations louder than various local, state and federal governments. Let the people who know what they are talking about disseminate information! Btw social distancing is a vague statement that I think on it's own means different things to different people. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Mar 12, 2020 13:55:17 GMT -5
Will leave it as this: strong leadership is extremely important and funding public health appropriately for pandemic planning, preparedness and response. You've said so much here without saying too much. Bravo. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 12, 2020 13:57:15 GMT -5
From current statistics...stay safe. Experts have already said those numbers are skewed because of how so many people that had it and were not tested because they showed no symptoms or very little symptoms and never actually went to a doctor or never got tested. Most experts say the average mortality rate will be more like 1% at most if you account the people that were not tested. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Mar 12, 2020 14:13:34 GMT -5
From current statistics...stay safe. Experts have already said those numbers are skewed because of how so many people that had it and were not tested because they showed no symptoms or very little symptoms and never actually went to a doctor or never got tested. Most experts say the average mortality rate will be more like 1% at most if you account the people that were not tested. You realize that 1% is still 10x that of the flu, right? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Mar 12, 2020 14:28:09 GMT -5
Not trying to cause panic, but if you're over 50 its more important to stay away from gatherings as the mortality rate is basically exponential from 30+ according to the graph. Kids, 20-somethings, millennials will likely be fine with very few experiencing severe symptoms. Even at the above rates, its 1 in 500 up to 40 and 2 in 500 in their 40s.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 12, 2020 15:48:27 GMT -5
While I am worried for my parents / grandparents and other at risk groups, I’m equally concerned about the economic impact this will cause. Not necessarily at the youth level but MLS, NCAA etc. This^^ It's going to be a longer recovery for our whole country due to all of these closings. Good thing we had a solid economy before this hit or we would really be in trouble. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 12, 2020 16:36:59 GMT -5
While I am worried for my parents / grandparents and other at risk groups, I’m equally concerned about the economic impact this will cause. Not necessarily at the youth level but MLS, NCAA etc. This^^ It's going to be a longer recovery for our whole country due to all of these closings. Good thing we had a solid economy before this hit or we would really be in trouble. The economy is going to be an issue for sure. The psyche of all of the college kids who were rushed off campus or told not to come back after spring break, especially the seniors will be affected. Their ability to find jobs. The education of all of our students will suffer. Online classes won't cut it when they are not prepared for or used to it (this is not to diss remote school for all as those teachers and students are used to that method and I loved the classes in college that I just watched on TV at home). People will be depressed to be stuck at home, bored without sports to entertain us or their own athletic pursuits to do. Hopefully it will be worth it and the virus will be contained in a few weeks. |
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Post by dadofthree on Mar 13, 2020 7:09:44 GMT -5
dadofthree I'm interested in knowing what you all conclude. Had the conference call last night. They are going to give us credit for a different week in 2020. Team has to decide what week. Not giving direct refund and insurance wont cover since it is a pandemic. They said they would help if you cant make the week that your team was planning to get you on with another team even from a different club. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Mar 13, 2020 7:29:47 GMT -5
dadofthree I'm interested in knowing what you all conclude. Had the conference call last night. They are going to give us credit for a different week in 2020. Team has to decide what week. Not giving direct refund and insurance wont cover since it is a pandemic. They said they would help if you cant make the week that your team was planning to get you on with another team even from a different club. we got the same news yesterday. After researching the difference between a pandemic and an epidemic ... a pandemic is worse. They also said they are trying to get their attorneys involved. I couldn't really say much on the call b/c I feel blindsided. |
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Post by 3gsoccer on Mar 13, 2020 8:14:24 GMT -5
A couple of things to keep in mind as you consider your decision: 1. Generation Adidas could provide a full refund (or even a refund of just their profit on the trips) to the players/families regardless if Generation Adidas could make an insurance claim for cancellation reimbursement or receive reimbursement from hotels/venues/air carriers. It sounds like their proposal is to keep the money they have received and keep the reimbursement and future travel risk on the players/families instead of assuming these risks themselves. 2. The option to transfer to another date may in part be an attempt to protect Generation Adidas from legal claims for refunds by players/families (see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accord_and_satisfaction). |
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Post by honeybadger on Mar 13, 2020 8:22:13 GMT -5
Rumor has it that DA gave each of the clubs a choice in determining future travel for games based on their state's response to the virus. There are games this weekend that will be impacted but the announcements and confirmation S have yet to be made by the GA clubs. This will impact the rest of the season as tournaments and showcases will be canceled in certain states. Honestly given that the majority of games played by any youth soccer team (even DA) is going to be far less people than professional or college sports, I think it would be stupid to cancel all car type travel. I understand maybe not doing flights, but anything driveable shouldn't be an issue. There has to be less than 50-100 people at any given youth soccer game. That is an absolute low risk. Schools are a higher risk than an open air soccer game. Amen |
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Post by BubbleDad on Mar 16, 2020 21:32:02 GMT -5
A couple of things to keep in mind as you consider your decision: 1. Generation Adidas could provide a full refund (or even a refund of just their profit on the trips) to the players/families regardless if Generation Adidas could make an insurance claim for cancellation reimbursement or receive reimbursement from hotels/venues/air carriers. It sounds like their proposal is to keep the money they have received and keep the reimbursement and future travel risk on the players/families instead of assuming these risks themselves. 2. The option to transfer to another date may in part be an attempt to protect Generation Adidas from legal claims for refunds by players/families (see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accord_and_satisfaction). Thank you for your insight. We're hoping to have another call this week with Generation Adidas. The desire to take this trip my daughter and I no longer have. The flights are still on as scheduled even though our country and Spain have declared a state of emergency. This is all a mess... I just want my money back... this Coronavirus situation will not be resolved in 2020. |
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