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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Mar 13, 2020 9:59:33 GMT -5
Please wait before making any decision the would end Spring sports across the State.
Most schools will be closed down for at least two weeks. My daughter's HS has virtual learning so kids will now have mandated screen time- other schools will have to make up missed time. Spring break trips will be cancelled, summer vacations in jeopardy etc.
Kids need to have something to look forward to during all of this. The potential for depression in teens is already high- no need adding to it.
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Post by Keeper on Mar 13, 2020 16:51:01 GMT -5
Just like ncaa the spring HS season is done. No helping it as most kids will be out of schools until at least mid May.
At this point I don’t expect kids to return to schools until the Fall. We are in this for the long haul.
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Post by soccerfutbolfam on Mar 14, 2020 8:55:02 GMT -5
Just like ncaa the spring HS season is done. No helping it as most kids will be out of schools until at least mid May. At this point I don’t expect kids to return to schools until the Fall. We are in this for the long haul. Really? Fall? I Am hoping the fear and reality will find a good meeting point and our “new lives” can start again soon. But I agree. It is hard watching our kids learn life lessons - life isn’t fair and our generation has experienced losses and hard times but nothing like our Grandparents. Maybe a better US will be born out of this virus. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Mar 14, 2020 14:11:12 GMT -5
This is definitely a multi-generational event. Nothing like WWII, but its significant for everyone. Hopefully for the vast majority of us it will be a non-event.
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Post by guest on Mar 14, 2020 21:48:35 GMT -5
I have a senior HS player. I know it’s only rumors at this point. I have heard- possible no more season. No playoffs, or all-Region, all-county, etc. No prom, no SAT. Also heard (rumors of course) no AP tests and possibly having to repeat classes next year. Now that, if it comes to pass, would really pee in people’s wheaties. NCAA already giving an extra year of eligibility. I wonder if GHSA would do the same to 5th year high school seniors.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 14, 2020 22:12:17 GMT -5
I have a senior HS player. I know it’s only rumors at this point. I have heard- possible no more season. No playoffs, or all-Region, all-county, etc. No prom, no SAT. Also heard (rumors of course) no AP tests and possibly having to repeat classes next year. Now that, if it comes to pass, would really pee in people’s wheaties. NCAA already giving an extra year of eligibility. I wonder if GHSA would do the same to 5th year high school seniors. Repeat classes? No way. That would be crazy, terrible, unsettling, etc. I do not expect them to have issues with having to repeat classes. Most kids are doing remote school and will be able to complete their year. The SAT could easily be taken in the summer for current juniors without causing issues. The AP exams are an issue potentially, but they could be pushed back a few weeks. I know my oldest has two in the first two weeks of May. It could be pushed back a couple of weeks, but honestly they could also just do the tests at the schools with only a few kids to a room and a few teacher proctors. As for eligibility for high school seniors, how many would honestly want to spend another year in high school?!?! I know I would not have wanted to. I was ready to be done with that! I missed the end of my high school sports career with a knee injury and it sucked, but NO WAY would I have spent another year there for any reason!!! There are plenty of ways to still compete in college even if you don't play NCAA sanctioned sports. Club teams are great. Intramurals for your sorority or fraternity or dorm or major are fun too! Don't spend extra time in high school for sports! |
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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Mar 15, 2020 9:48:23 GMT -5
I have a senior HS player. I know it’s only rumors at this point. I have heard- possible no more season. No playoffs, or all-Region, all-county, etc. No prom, no SAT. Also heard (rumors of course) no AP tests and possibly having to repeat classes next year. Now that, if it comes to pass, would really pee in people’s wheaties. NCAA already giving an extra year of eligibility. I wonder if GHSA would do the same to 5th year high school seniors. Repeat classes? No way. That would be crazy, terrible, unsettling, etc. I do not expect them to have issues with having to repeat classes. Most kids are doing remote school and will be able to complete their year. The SAT could easily be taken in the summer for current juniors without causing issues. The AP exams are an issue potentially, but they could be pushed back a few weeks. I know my oldest has two in the first two weeks of May. It could be pushed back a couple of weeks, but honestly they could also just do the tests at the schools with only a few kids to a room and a few teacher proctors. As for eligibility for high school seniors, how many would honestly want to spend another year in high school?!?! I know I would not have wanted to. I was ready to be done with that! I missed the end of my high school sports career with a knee injury and it sucked, but NO WAY would I have spent another year there for any reason!!! There are plenty of ways to still compete in college even if you don't play NCAA sanctioned sports. Club teams are great. Intramurals for your sorority or fraternity or dorm or major are fun too! Don't spend extra time in high school for sports! Agree with this- I don't see anyone wishing for another year of high school (except those of us in our 50's). We have a girl at our school who has been battling an eating disorder for the last year or so. She's a pretty good player and has come out of her depression largely due to the support group that is her team. I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds of situations like that around the state. This isn't about wins/losses/trophies, for many kids it's their way to find themselves at an age that can be very difficult. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 15, 2020 11:43:12 GMT -5
Repeat classes? No way. That would be crazy, terrible, unsettling, etc. I do not expect them to have issues with having to repeat classes. Most kids are doing remote school and will be able to complete their year. The SAT could easily be taken in the summer for current juniors without causing issues. The AP exams are an issue potentially, but they could be pushed back a few weeks. I know my oldest has two in the first two weeks of May. It could be pushed back a couple of weeks, but honestly they could also just do the tests at the schools with only a few kids to a room and a few teacher proctors. As for eligibility for high school seniors, how many would honestly want to spend another year in high school?!?! I know I would not have wanted to. I was ready to be done with that! I missed the end of my high school sports career with a knee injury and it sucked, but NO WAY would I have spent another year there for any reason!!! There are plenty of ways to still compete in college even if you don't play NCAA sanctioned sports. Club teams are great. Intramurals for your sorority or fraternity or dorm or major are fun too! Don't spend extra time in high school for sports! Agree with this- I don't see anyone wishing for another year of high school (except those of us in our 50's). We have a girl at our school who has been battling an eating disorder for the last year or so. She's a pretty good player and has come out of her depression largely due to the support group that is her team. I'm sure there are dozens if not hundreds of situations like that around the state. This isn't about wins/losses/trophies, for many kids it's their way to find themselves at an age that can be very difficult. Poor girl. I hope that she will do well during this time of relative isolation. Hopefully her friends and teammates will use their phones for good and face time or duo her and send supportive messages. It is very hard on a lot of kids in a lot of clubs, orchestras, teams, theater, etc. They are all going to be missing their time with friends. I hope they stay connected and supportive. |
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Post by guest on Mar 15, 2020 12:23:31 GMT -5
I’m well aware of what they COULD do. I’m more concerned with what they WILL do, in the name of that 5th horseman, Overabundant Caution. Yes most kids are doing remote learning. But MOST does not work. The law says EVERY kid must have equal opportunity. All it takes is for one family to not have a computer, high speed internet, etc and that is the end of digital learning days. One kid doesn’t do his or her online work and blames it on lack of access and that’s all she wrote. Gwinnett has made that very clear. Previously digital days worked ok because the kids who didn’t do it could make it up afterwards. there were a bunch of students who didn’t participate. It was only a few days. This is different. This is long term. I really cannot see things improving so much in a week or two that school will be back in. Gwinnett had zero cases when they cancelled. Now there are two and I imagine more to come. There will not be fewer cases in two weeks.
One kid fails his/her Milestones Test, blames it on lack of online access and in our litigious society, officials will fall over themselves to repeat the year. How else would you solve it? Maybe require summer school but I’m not sure. More than one organization I am affiliated with cancelled (before the gov requested it on Fri) not because of health Dept guidance but to avoid liability. I literally heard one official say that DP at GSA is going to get his ^$$ sued off because he hadn’t cancelled by thurs.
If the Milestones (which occur right after spring break in April) are tainted due to some kids not studying online, officials will have no choice. Now my question about 5th year eligibility becomes applicable. I too hope it doesn’t! But I am fearful it will.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 15, 2020 12:49:54 GMT -5
I’m well aware of what they COULD do. I’m more concerned with what they WILL do, in the name of that 5th horseman, Overabundant Caution. Yes most kids are doing remote learning. But MOST does not work. The law says EVERY kid must have equal opportunity. All it takes is for one family to not have a computer, high speed internet, etc and that is the end of digital learning days. One kid doesn’t do his or her online work and blames it on lack of access and that’s all she wrote. Gwinnett has made that very clear. Previously digital days worked ok because the kids who didn’t do it could make it up afterwards. there were a bunch of students who didn’t participate. It was only a few days. This is different. This is long term. I really cannot see things improving so much in a week or two that school will be back in. Gwinnett had zero cases when they cancelled. Now there are two and I imagine more to come. There will not be fewer cases in two weeks. One kid fails his/her Milestones Test, blames it on lack of online access and in our litigious society, officials will fall over themselves to repeat the year. How else would you solve it? Maybe require summer school but I’m not sure. More than one organization I am affiliated with cancelled (before the gov requested it on Fri) not because of health Dept guidance but to avoid liability. I literally heard one official say that DP at GSA is going to get his ^$$ sued off because he hadn’t cancelled by thurs. If the Milestones (which occur right after spring break in April) are tainted due to some kids not studying online, officials will have no choice. Now my question about 5th year eligibility becomes applicable. I too hope it doesn’t! But I am fearful it will. Milestones could be canceled. It would not be a big deal to run that through Georgia state Congress. Private schools aren't required to do that for graduation or promotion. That is a state thing. We are in difficult times for sure. Thos sort of things can be waived. As for the digital learning it is a difficult issue for the poor who don't have access. There are issues for those kids' meals as well. This is going to have far reaching ramifications. One hopes that the schools will have solutions for all of that. I know there are actions underway to feed those kids. I am sure they will find a way to educate them at home as well. If they don't then your repeating a year and 5th year eligibility things can come into the situation. I hope that it doesn't come to that though. That will strain the system for next year. It also makes a mess out of things for them since they have only 1/4 left. Hate for kids to repeat a whole year for 1/4 worth of classes! |
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Post by soccerparent02 on Mar 15, 2020 19:32:40 GMT -5
All schools I've seen have closed for 2 weeks which corresponds to the incubation period of 14 days. Our kids high school has rescheduled prom. I believe GHSA will start up spring sports once spring break is over which for most schools is the first week in April. They can also push playoffs back a week to gain more of the season.
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Post by coffee on Mar 15, 2020 19:44:20 GMT -5
Cambridge HS’s (Fulton) Spring sports are only suspended at the moment. This email from my son’s lacrosse coach:
“Cambridge Lacrosse family,
As of right now our season has been suspended indefinitely. We have heard the GHSA is going to re-evaluate the situation in 2 weeks, so nothing is permanent right now.
Please stay healthy out there, be safe, keep working out and a stick in your hands, and hopefully our season will continue on in a few weeks.
We will continue to update everyone as we get news from our AD and the GHSA.”
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Post by dadofthree on Mar 16, 2020 6:48:18 GMT -5
With the CDC just coming out that we shouldnt have groups of more than 50 until May, I think high school spring sports just like colleges are done. Hope Im wrong.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 16, 2020 6:50:25 GMT -5
Just like ncaa the spring HS season is done. No helping it as most kids will be out of schools until at least mid May. At this point I don’t expect kids to return to schools until the Fall. We are in this for the long haul. Wow if this happens that is absolute the most stupid thing I have ever seen done for a virus that ultimately will not kill anywhere near the Spanish Flu or Swine flu when we add it all up. I am optimistic. I say they are out through Spring break and come back after that. This whole closing of everything is overkill and will wreck our economy in a snowball effect. Great Britain isn't closing schools and businesses and they got countries all around them with high levels of the virus. They are taking a wait and see approach which is what we should have done, but in this day and age of panic first media and social media that will never happen here. Of course some people love this secretly, because they know it hurts re-election chances for a President that lives rent free inside their head. |
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Mar 16, 2020 8:34:51 GMT -5
Just like ncaa the spring HS season is done. No helping it as most kids will be out of schools until at least mid May. At this point I don’t expect kids to return to schools until the Fall. We are in this for the long haul. Wow if this happens that is absolute the most stupid thing I have ever seen done for a virus that ultimately will not kill anywhere near the Spanish Flu or Swine flu when we add it all up. I am optimistic. I say they are out through Spring break and come back after that. This whole closing of everything is overkill and will wreck our economy in a snowball effect. Great Britain isn't closing schools and businesses and they got countries all around them with high levels of the virus. They are taking a wait and see approach which is what we should have done, but in this day and age of panic first media and social media that will never happen here. Of course some people love this secretly, because they know it hurts re-election chances for a President that lives rent free inside their head. I'm curious, where did you get your Masters in Public Health? Because I am sure the guys at the CDC could use your insight! |
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Post by rocko1989 on Mar 16, 2020 8:47:23 GMT -5
With the CDC just coming out that we shouldnt have groups of more than 50 until May, I think high school spring sports just like colleges are done. Hope Im wrong. Just one opinion: My bet is HS sports are done for this Spring. Maybe I am wrong, however I don't think the schools and GHSA want to be accused of inactivity. Not making a decision is essentially making a decision. Maybe this is all alarmist activity. Maybe this is all unnecessary. Maybe we will look back on all this and wonder why there was this terrible panic. If we encounter the numbers Italy has, we are in a heap of trouble. If we don't, all these measures will appear to be too much. The key is for us to act in a calm manner, and make some wise decisions. The price of leadership is being required to make difficult decisions, even when those decisions are not popular. Personally, I am glad I don't have to make a ton of decisions impacting a lot of people during this situation. Hope you all are healthy, and stay healthy, during this situation. |
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Mar 16, 2020 8:58:54 GMT -5
With the CDC just coming out that we shouldnt have groups of more than 50 until May, I think high school spring sports just like colleges are done. Hope Im wrong. Just one opinion: My bet is HS sports are done for this Spring. Maybe I am wrong, however I don't think the schools and GHSA want to be accused of inactivity. Not making a decision is essentially making a decision. Maybe this is all alarmist activity. Maybe this is all unnecessary. Maybe we will look back on all this and wonder why there was this terrible panic. If we encounter the numbers Italy has, we are in a heap of trouble. If we don't, all these measures will appear to be too much. The key is for us to act in a calm manner, and make some wise decisions. The price of leadership is being required to make difficult decisions, even when those decisions are not popular. Personally, I am glad I don't have to make a ton of decisions impacting a lot of people during this situation. Hope you all are healthy, and stay healthy, during this situation. The great irony, as we all know, is that if we collectively do a good job keeping the numbers low, people will scream that we over-reacted. Oh well. My kids are devastated about missing the season, but we've softened it by putting it into the context of keeping as many as people as possible (our family and general public). They get it and feel good about their sacrifice. Stay safe out there. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 16, 2020 9:43:57 GMT -5
Wow if this happens that is absolute the most stupid thing I have ever seen done for a virus that ultimately will not kill anywhere near the Spanish Flu or Swine flu when we add it all up. I am optimistic. I say they are out through Spring break and come back after that. This whole closing of everything is overkill and will wreck our economy in a snowball effect. Great Britain isn't closing schools and businesses and they got countries all around them with high levels of the virus. They are taking a wait and see approach which is what we should have done, but in this day and age of panic first media and social media that will never happen here. Of course some people love this secretly, because they know it hurts re-election chances for a President that lives rent free inside their head. I'm curious, where did you get your Masters in Public Health? Because I am sure the guys at the CDC could use your insight! So lets use the stats that the CDC has used previously and other scientists as well. If only 10-20% of the people that contract this virus has to have medical supportive treatment and the other 80-90% of the people get no symptoms, cold like symptoms, or at worse flu like symptoms where OTC meds can treat and self-quarantine why are we destroying the economy for that 10-20% that might get gravely ill if they contract it? Wouldn't the better solution be that elderly, people with pre-existing conditions, people with immune system issues shelter in place for 2-4 weeks and not even allow family members to be around them until this is over? That is less of an impact on the economy than making everyone do this. It also makes more sense. Personal responsibility goes a long way. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Mar 16, 2020 10:12:45 GMT -5
I'm curious, where did you get your Masters in Public Health? Because I am sure the guys at the CDC could use your insight! So lets use the stats that the CDC has used previously and other scientists as well. If only 10-20% of the people that contract this virus has to have medical supportive treatment and the other 80-90% of the people get no symptoms, cold like symptoms, or at worse flu like symptoms where OTC meds can treat and self-quarantine why are we destroying the economy for that 10-20% that might get gravely ill if they contract it? Wouldn't the better solution be that elderly, people with pre-existing conditions, people with immune system issues shelter in place for 2-4 weeks and not even allow family members to be around them until this is over? That is less of an impact on the economy than making everyone do this. It also makes more sense. Personal responsibility goes a long way. The issue is the long incubation period and the fact that a lot of kids are asymptomatic, just carrying it and spreading it. The thing could get WAY worse before we even know what happened because it spread without anyone noticing
Source: friend at CDC
As for the 'not as bad as spanish flu'.. gee, I hope we're better off than we were 100 years ago.
As for the 'well it's just 2% mortality rate'. If I gave you those odds by handing you a bag of 100 M&Ms, but two of them had cyanide in them.. would you still eat some?
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Post by georgiasoccerdad on Mar 16, 2020 10:26:25 GMT -5
So lets use the stats that the CDC has used previously and other scientists as well. If only 10-20% of the people that contract this virus has to have medical supportive treatment and the other 80-90% of the people get no symptoms, cold like symptoms, or at worse flu like symptoms where OTC meds can treat and self-quarantine why are we destroying the economy for that 10-20% that might get gravely ill if they contract it? Wouldn't the better solution be that elderly, people with pre-existing conditions, people with immune system issues shelter in place for 2-4 weeks and not even allow family members to be around them until this is over? That is less of an impact on the economy than making everyone do this. It also makes more sense. Personal responsibility goes a long way. The issue is the long incubation period and the fact that a lot of kids are asymptomatic, just carrying it and spreading it. The thing could get WAY worse before we even know what happened because it spread without anyone noticing
Source: friend at CDC
As for the 'not as bad as spanish flu'.. gee, I hope we're better off than we were 100 years ago.
As for the 'well it's just 2% mortality rate'. If I gave you those odds by handing you a bag of 100 M&Ms, but two of them had cyanide in them.. would you still eat some?
Peanut or plain? |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Mar 16, 2020 12:12:06 GMT -5
I'm curious, where did you get your Masters in Public Health? Because I am sure the guys at the CDC could use your insight! So lets use the stats that the CDC has used previously and other scientists as well. If only 10-20% of the people that contract this virus has to have medical supportive treatment and the other 80-90% of the people get no symptoms, cold like symptoms, or at worse flu like symptoms where OTC meds can treat and self-quarantine why are we destroying the economy for that 10-20% that might get gravely ill if they contract it? Wouldn't the better solution be that elderly, people with pre-existing conditions, people with immune system issues shelter in place for 2-4 weeks and not even allow family members to be around them until this is over? That is less of an impact on the economy than making everyone do this. It also makes more sense. Personal responsibility goes a long way. That sounds like common sense and I would like to have seen this be applied as the first measure of containment. But I think they don't feel many people have that much common sense/judgement as a whole ( and I can't disagree with them either) ... so we see a jump over to the more extreme position we are in now. |
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Post by sanesoccerdad on Mar 17, 2020 13:23:46 GMT -5
Curious if anyone has changed their thinking over the last 24 hours?
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Post by rocko1989 on Mar 17, 2020 17:22:46 GMT -5
You have probably all heard-the SEC officially cancelled (not suspended or postponed) all Winter and Spring Sports at this point. While I have not heard, it is doubtful this will be the only conference to do this.
While I hope my pessimism is wrong, I doubt high school sports will start back up. Our local middle school conference has already cancelled the rest of their track, baseball, and soccer seasons. GHSA has said the regular seasons belong to the schools. How many schools are going to want to crank everything back up? What if some schools want to start again, and some don’t? I know we can do “what ifs” forever.....
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Post by Keeper on Mar 17, 2020 17:43:23 GMT -5
You have probably all heard-the SEC officially cancelled (not suspended or postponed) all Winter and Spring Sports at this point. While I have not heard, it is doubtful this will be the only conference to do this. While I hope my pessimism is wrong, I doubt high school sports will start back up. Our local middle school conference has already cancelled the rest of their track, baseball, and soccer seasons. GHSA has said the regular seasons belong to the schools. How many schools are going to want to crank everything back up? What if some schools want to start again, and some don’t? I know we can do “what ifs” forever..... You mean last major conference to wait and cancel? Almost everyone else has canceled their spring seasons. Especially since the NCAA canceled all the championships so there’s no point in playing the conference games. No more college games or events until the Fall, hopefully. |
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