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Post by coffee on Apr 1, 2020 17:24:13 GMT -5
I know there are many people with much bigger problems right now, so I’ll skip listing why this will suck for seniors.
The clubs are competitive and will be eager to get back to training as soon as they can. However, they’re not going to want to expose themselves to the liability that can go along with jumping the gun. I expect them to want governments and experts to say the coast is clear before starting up regular operations again. Because of the announcement above I doubt they will startup training before the normal school year would end. That is unless some other authority says it’s safe for life to return to normal.
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 1, 2020 22:51:01 GMT -5
Yeah. If physically attending school is canceled ... soccer probably isn't far behind.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 2, 2020 7:46:11 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that a lot of leagues (SCCL specifically) start allowing training when tryouts would normally happen and let us play an abbreviated schedule through the summer. Given that school is out normally in the summer anyway a lot of games could be scheduled during the week to try to get as many games in as possible providing they are in the evening and parents can get them there.
I am hoping they are smart enough not to cancel the whole season but instead just move it out to 6/1 or something and play through July.
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Post by allthingsoccer on Apr 2, 2020 7:59:24 GMT -5
dont think that will happen. I think you can pretty much kiss the 2019/20 season goodbye. I think clubs will look to getting 20/21 started at the normal time. Some kids wont be ready to play and this is where a lot of injuries could happen. It's unfortunate, but I think getting back to norm is whats best for the players.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 2, 2020 8:23:25 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that a lot of leagues (SCCL specifically) start allowing training when tryouts would normally happen and let us play an abbreviated schedule through the summer. Given that school is out normally in the summer anyway a lot of games could be scheduled during the week to try to get as many games in as possible providing they are in the evening and parents can get them there. I am hoping they are smart enough not to cancel the whole season but instead just move it out to 6/1 or something and play through July. Curious, what would an abbreviated season look like? Play all the games in a 4-6 week window? How would the SCCL include the out-of-state teams on the schedule? How could you then also incorporate practices? ...and also tryouts? I appreciate your optimism, but it doesn't sound realistic, unfortunately. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 2, 2020 10:18:34 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that a lot of leagues (SCCL specifically) start allowing training when tryouts would normally happen and let us play an abbreviated schedule through the summer. Given that school is out normally in the summer anyway a lot of games could be scheduled during the week to try to get as many games in as possible providing they are in the evening and parents can get them there. I am hoping they are smart enough not to cancel the whole season but instead just move it out to 6/1 or something and play through July. Curious, what would an abbreviated season look like? Play all the games in a 4-6 week window? How would the SCCL include the out-of-state teams on the schedule? How could you then also incorporate practices? ...and also tryouts? I appreciate your optimism, but it doesn't sound realistic, unfortunately. Maybe it is a pipe dream, but I know my son's team had already played 3 of the 12 games. You could easily squeeze 9 or 10 games (if some have only played 2) in a 5 week span. So say start training the week of 6/1. Give them 2 weeks of training starting games on 6/13 weekend. Skip the July 4th weekend and if you count 5 weekends or weeks that is 2 games a week or weekend and ends on 7/19. You then do tryouts either during that last couple of weeks of the season or immediately the week of Monday 7/20. You start training the next week after tryouts and could even forego team camp since most kids would have been playing all summer anyway and would be in shape. As far as being fit and no injuries well most clubs including my sons are sending training homework each week, so if they are training like my son and daughter are 2-3x a week in the yard then they should still be fit enough to ramp up to full practices and scrimmages the week of 6/1 and be match fit by the start of games. I mean realistically every season is this way anyway. Hopefully the player has trained all summer and there is usually only a team camp and maybe a week of 2x or 3x normal training days before people start playing tournaments anyway. I think the injury angle is a bit overblown. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 2, 2020 10:30:03 GMT -5
Curious, what would an abbreviated season look like? Play all the games in a 4-6 week window? How would the SCCL include the out-of-state teams on the schedule? How could you then also incorporate practices? ...and also tryouts? I appreciate your optimism, but it doesn't sound realistic, unfortunately. Maybe it is a pipe dream, but I know my son's team had already played 3 of the 12 games. You could easily squeeze 9 or 10 games (if some have only played 2) in a 5 week span. So say start training the week of 6/1. Give them 2 weeks of training starting games on 6/13 weekend. Skip the July 4th weekend and if you count 5 weekends or weeks that is 2 games a week or weekend and ends on 7/19. You then do tryouts either during that last couple of weeks of the season or immediately the week of Monday 7/20. You start training the next week after tryouts and could even forego team camp since most kids would have been playing all summer anyway and would be in shape. As far as being fit and no injuries well most clubs including my sons are sending training homework each week, so if they are training like my son and daughter are 2-3x a week in the yard then they should still be fit enough to ramp up to full practices and scrimmages the week of 6/1 and be match fit by the start of games. I mean realistically every season is this way anyway. Hopefully the player has trained all summer and there is usually only a team camp and maybe a week of 2x or 3x normal training days before people start playing tournaments anyway. I think the injury angle is a bit overblown. What age groups are you talking about? After all if the COVID 19 is gone enough for sports a lot of families are going to want to take vacation and GET AWAY from their houses and home towns. Kids are going to want to go to camp. So you couldn't do any age group where the games would be meaningful (like for standings for pro/rel or just standings that people will use to bash other teams or tout their own teams for recruiting purposes). For the academy ages it could be done but even then, why? What are you hoping to gain? You can't bring back the spring and make it like it never happened. Some kids on teams will have been busting their tails. My kids are training every day on soccer or fitness or both. Some will have goofed off entirely. The teamwork aspect will be gone. My little one has been doing technical drills but her team does a lot of ball movement and passes that rely on timing of runs and pressing the opponent. She cannot train on that. Her team will be way behind where they should have been if this didn't happen even if every kid is training 100%. It is not the same. I hate it for all of us, but to play the spring season in the summer is not going to bring this time back to us. And there are kids planning to do other stuff in the summer that they won't want to miss. Our summer is usually a lot of soccer related stuff but we would not want to miss those things to play a made up spring season!!! |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 2, 2020 10:35:26 GMT -5
Maybe it is a pipe dream, but I know my son's team had already played 3 of the 12 games. You could easily squeeze 9 or 10 games (if some have only played 2) in a 5 week span. So say start training the week of 6/1. Give them 2 weeks of training starting games on 6/13 weekend. Skip the July 4th weekend and if you count 5 weekends or weeks that is 2 games a week or weekend and ends on 7/19. You then do tryouts either during that last couple of weeks of the season or immediately the week of Monday 7/20. You start training the next week after tryouts and could even forego team camp since most kids would have been playing all summer anyway and would be in shape. As far as being fit and no injuries well most clubs including my sons are sending training homework each week, so if they are training like my son and daughter are 2-3x a week in the yard then they should still be fit enough to ramp up to full practices and scrimmages the week of 6/1 and be match fit by the start of games. I mean realistically every season is this way anyway. Hopefully the player has trained all summer and there is usually only a team camp and maybe a week of 2x or 3x normal training days before people start playing tournaments anyway. I think the injury angle is a bit overblown. What age groups are you talking about? After all if the COVID 19 is gone enough for sports a lot of families are going to want to take vacation and GET AWAY from their houses and home towns. Kids are going to want to go to camp. So you couldn't do any age group where the games would be meaningful (like for standings for pro/rel or just standings that people will use to bash other teams or tout their own teams for recruiting purposes). For the academy ages it could be done but even then, why? What are you hoping to gain? You can't bring back the spring and make it like it never happened. Some kids on teams will have been busting their tails. My kids are training every day on soccer or fitness or both. Some will have goofed off entirely. The teamwork aspect will be gone. My little one has been doing technical drills but her team does a lot of ball movement and passes that rely on timing of runs and pressing the opponent. She cannot train on that. Her team will be way behind where they should have been if this didn't happen even if every kid is training 100%. It is not the same. I hate it for all of us, but to play the spring season in the summer is not going to bring this time back to us. And there are kids planning to do other stuff in the summer that they won't want to miss. Our summer is usually a lot of soccer related stuff but we would not want to miss those things to play a made up spring season!!! Well as a compromise then the summer season say for SCCL should be offered free or minimum charge and anyone that wants to make up for lost spring can play on those teams during the summer. I mean they paid very little referee fees out, so they are just sitting on that money anyway which is most of what the summer league cost is to begin with. I'm talking about any age group that wants to play the spring season still. My daughter is in rec but she would love to play in the summer. She is academy age though. My son is on an SCCL team and this was his last season of full year club soccer before high school. I'm sure he would love to play with his "team" again before next year. |
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Post by coffee on Apr 2, 2020 12:19:21 GMT -5
My daughter is the keeper for her team. We specifically scheduled our family vacation after the season was supposed to end. We’ve put a considerable amount of money down on a rental. It’s not like we can just walk away from that.
I’m certain we’re not the only family on the team that has plans that would be very difficult to change.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 2, 2020 13:23:51 GMT -5
My daughter is the keeper for her team. We specifically scheduled our family vacation after the season was supposed to end. We’ve put a considerable amount of money down on a rental. It’s not like we can just walk away from that. I’m certain we’re not the only family on the team that has plans that would be very difficult to change. I understand that so maybe a free or reduced price summer league with the people that can play would be a better option. Like I said it isn't like they paid any or many referees for this season so they should have that money still and can reduce the cost of any summer league accordingly for kids that paid fees for spring but didn't really get to play or only played 2-3 games which is most of the teams other than DA and maybe ECNL. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 2, 2020 18:45:40 GMT -5
China is shutting back down. It shows that being in too big a hurry to return to normalcy will just compound the problem.
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Post by BubbleDad on Apr 2, 2020 21:09:50 GMT -5
Hang organized soccer up. There is no telling when we are getting out of this mess. Exactly, China is still reeling from this and they have been going through it since December. It went from 0 to 60 for the US starting in March. We still have at least three to six more months of this it seems based on what China is experiencing.
Folks in different socioeconomic brackets are losing jobs and business, so whether they can afford soccer next year is going to be another issue.
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