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Post by Soccerhouse on Apr 14, 2020 10:26:15 GMT -5
BREAKING: The University of Cincinnati has discontinued men’s soccer effective immediately.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 14, 2020 10:38:34 GMT -5
The thread implies that COVID 19 played a role??
I feel for all of those players. Terrible times for them.
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Post by atv on Apr 14, 2020 10:54:36 GMT -5
Revenue and Title IX are the reasons ...
"This was a difficult decision, but one made with the long-term interests of UC Athletics at the forefront," Cunningham said. "During this time of profound challenges and widespread uncertainty, I have engaged in a comprehensive and thorough review of UC's sport offerings and long-term budget implications of supporting the number of student-athletes currently at UC. Based on this review, and in consultation with President Pinto and other University leaders, UC Athletics will no longer sponsor a men's soccer program.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 14, 2020 10:56:43 GMT -5
Title IX is more to blame than anything, but without title IX, we would really only have football, basketball and baseball at most schools.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 14, 2020 10:57:47 GMT -5
Revenue and Title IX are the reasons ... "This was a difficult decision, but one made with the long-term interests of UC Athletics at the forefront," Cunningham said. "During this time of profound challenges and widespread uncertainty, I have engaged in a comprehensive and thorough review of UC's sport offerings and long-term budget implications of supporting the number of student-athletes currently at UC. Based on this review, and in consultation with President Pinto and other University leaders, UC Athletics will no longer sponsor a men's soccer program. "During this time of profound challenges and widespread uncertainty"...I know Title IX and revenue, but isn't part of the issue that they lost revenue for spring sports (baseball possibly) and don't know what to expect for the fall (FOOTBALL) so part of the reason to make the cut is COVID 19 |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 14, 2020 11:15:36 GMT -5
How big of a shoe-string budget are they working on? They can't find some money to fund a soccer program? Football team really needs that updated workout room, huh. (*just a sarcastic notion that football should be able to spare some money)
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Post by mistergrinch on Apr 14, 2020 14:46:36 GMT -5
How big of a shoestring budget are the working on? They can't find some money to fund a soccer program? Football team really needs that update workout room, huh. (*just a sarcastic notion that football should be able to spare some money) I'm sure it's been brought up - but only a handful of schools have athletic departments that are in the black.. and it's the big ones you'd expect. (texas, a&M, bama, florida, lsu, georgia, michigan, ohio state, etc)..
I believe the last detailed report was in 2014 and found that only 20 programs operated in the black.. granted, a lot of that 'expense' is putting money back into the program (facilities, etc) and at some schools they even take excess and donate it to the academic side (I know Florida does this)... still, the athletic programs themselves are good for schools (and very good for the college towns - business-wise) but they're not great on their own financially.
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Post by soccerspin on Apr 14, 2020 15:31:26 GMT -5
Non-rev sports are always in danger of being cut - and especially men’s sports due to title IX. I’d guess this COVID19 crisis has put additional stress on college financials (for one, lots of folks asking for money backs and are getting lawyers to help them get it) - and they need to cut costs quickly. Unfortunately discontinuing a non-rev sport is an easy way to do it. 😔
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Post by atv on Apr 14, 2020 17:30:56 GMT -5
Oh boy ...
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 14, 2020 22:53:36 GMT -5
How big of a shoestring budget are the working on? They can't find some money to fund a soccer program? Football team really needs that update workout room, huh. (*just a sarcastic notion that football should be able to spare some money) I'm sure it's been brought up - but only a handful of schools have athletic departments that are in the black.. and it's the big ones you'd expect. (texas, a&M, bama, florida, lsu, georgia, michigan, ohio state, etc)..
I believe the last detailed report was in 2014 and found that only 20 programs operated in the black.. granted, a lot of that 'expense' is putting money back into the program (facilities, etc) and at some schools they even take excess and donate it to the academic side (I know Florida does this)... still, the athletic programs themselves are good for schools (and very good for the college towns - business-wise) but they're not great on their own financially.
Actually, in direct finances you are probably correct. However, indirectly, sports programs play a huge part of the overall enrollment numbers of the student population, booster money, etc. It's much harder to place value of the program when these things are considered. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Apr 15, 2020 10:06:04 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been brought up - but only a handful of schools have athletic departments that are in the black.. and it's the big ones you'd expect. (texas, a&M, bama, florida, lsu, georgia, michigan, ohio state, etc)..
I believe the last detailed report was in 2014 and found that only 20 programs operated in the black.. granted, a lot of that 'expense' is putting money back into the program (facilities, etc) and at some schools they even take excess and donate it to the academic side (I know Florida does this)... still, the athletic programs themselves are good for schools (and very good for the college towns - business-wise) but they're not great on their own financially.
Actually, in direct finances you are probably correct. However, indirectly, sports programs play a huge part of the overall enrollment numbers of the student population, booster money, etc. It's much harder to place value of the program when these things are considered. That's what I meant by what's bolded above. Lots of kids want to go to the big rah-rah colleges where they can sit in stadiums and watch sports.
When I was in college, we went to a LOT of the non-revenue sports.. volleyball, etc.. because it was free and it was fun.. and it was something to do pretty much any night of the week.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 15, 2020 12:22:32 GMT -5
Is track and field really more "revenue generating" than soccer? Men's swimming and diving? (for schools not named Stanford/Florida)
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