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Post by interestedspectator on Apr 20, 2020 20:17:17 GMT -5
Just heard SSA and UFA have released coaches and directors. Does anyone know who? Also does that mean those clubs could be in severe financial trouble?
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Post by dadofthree on Apr 20, 2020 20:22:10 GMT -5
Just heard SSA and UFA have released coaches and directors. Does anyone know who? Also does that mean those clubs could be in severe financial trouble? I know my daughters virtual practice got cancelled tonight due to a meeting of ciaches at UFA. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 20, 2020 20:27:48 GMT -5
This is weird IMO. They get ALL their money in June-fall. Why would they be hurting NOW?
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Apr 20, 2020 20:35:35 GMT -5
Maybe this is a good time for all the clubs to streamline. Personally some of these clubs with 4 and 5 club teams per age group is a pure money grab
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 20, 2020 21:25:02 GMT -5
Maybe this is a good time for all the clubs to streamline. Personally some of these clubs with 4 and 5 club teams per age group is a pure money grab I don't think it is a money grab. Those kids get real coaching and have fun and improve as players. The costs for the lower level teams are often lower as well and the travel is less. In some counties if you don't play select soccer you have no chance to make your high school team even as an upperclassman on JV. While I am not sold on high school soccer for the most elite players I do think it can be a great experience for some kids and for all of those without college soccer ambition it may be their only chance to be a member of a team with their friends on it. However I suspect numbers will be down this fall so they may not have 5 teams per age group. I suspect many clubs will be short on players. |
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Post by Keeper on Apr 20, 2020 21:54:14 GMT -5
This is weird IMO. They get ALL their money in June-fall. Why would they be hurting NOW? Not all true. A lot of clubs have payment plans for a lot of families and since all this started most probably haven’t been making those payments. My guess is this is also to help coaches go on unemployment too. |
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Post by soccermonster on Apr 20, 2020 21:55:03 GMT -5
UFA is not paying their coaches anymore. And all are 1099 so they are out of luck until May 1 and have to wait 2-3 weeks to get any unemployment benefits. Complete bullshizat since I haven’t heard anything about our fees being returned and most of the coaches are still working and coaching the kids, Not cool. I agree that they should pay the coaches with the fees that they are not refunding (which I'm totally ok with) but maybe it is being done by design because if they get laid off now, they actually get paid more in unemployment funds for 14 weeks during the coronavirus which would take them through the end of July. If they get laid off once the bans are lifted, they only get the normal wage which is pretty low. Just thinking out loud  |
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Post by soccermonster on Apr 20, 2020 21:58:38 GMT -5
This is weird IMO. They get ALL their money in June-fall. Why would they be hurting NOW? Not all true. A lot of clubs have payment plans for a lot of families and since all this started most probably haven’t been making those payments. My guess is this is also to help coaches go on unemployment too. I assume that it is definitely intentional so that they have access to all of their unemployment benefits which are a bit higher during this pandemic. We can only hope our clubs are doing right by the coaches. |
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Post by socceristhebest on Apr 20, 2020 22:00:50 GMT -5
Well norcross had no tourneys left and their payment plans are complete in the fall - there should be no major expected income in the spring other than maybe a pre tryout camp.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 20, 2020 22:40:21 GMT -5
Sadly, this is not some attempt at usurping the system and trying to make sure these coaches are made as whole as possible. IMO this is straight up mismanagement. If the pandemic had not occurred what would they have done, get a loan on next seasons' fees and dues to pay the coaches? Keep in mind, they are not paying for the field rentals, the maintenance of the fields, regular club operation expenses like water, ice, sports drinks, meetings with donuts and other snacks. Oh yeah and the big one, Referees. I get we are in uncharted times, at least pay a reduced amount but don't have them all call into a Zoom meeting and be like yup, we're not going to pay you anymore, wait what? I was not a proponent of refunds since through no fault of the coaches and the club we could not partake in soccer activities. But now, I'm saying for all of you that are part of a club that has chosen to release its coaches, I think a partial refund is within order...
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 20, 2020 22:49:42 GMT -5
If the pandemic had not occurred what would they have done, get a loan on next seasons' fees and dues to pay the coaches? Well if the pandemic had not ocurred, then everything would be the same and coaches would still get paid 🤔 |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Apr 20, 2020 22:51:12 GMT -5
Personally I don't care about a refund for the spring. We got a solid 2 months in. I want the club to be in a good position for the fall.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Apr 20, 2020 23:09:06 GMT -5
If the pandemic had not occurred what would they have done, get a loan on next seasons' fees and dues to pay the coaches? Well if the pandemic had not ocurred, then everything would be the same and coaches would still get paid 🤔 So what then is the justification for not paying them now? UFA fee payment plans were completed by January and operations costs have drawn to a halt, so why not just pay them till next month as was budgeted for? I mean this release affected everyone at UFA with the exception of 4 people... |
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Post by mistercalcio on Apr 21, 2020 0:08:11 GMT -5
Did this happen throughout the entire UFA “system of branches?” Obviously some locations are more emphasized than others so I’m curious if this was an organization-wide maneuver. Regardless, I can’t imagine it would happen if money wasn’t tight in the first place... “we’re going to lay you off so you can go get unemployment” doesn’t sound super promising, in my opinion
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 21, 2020 6:42:55 GMT -5
I have to wonder if some of this is to prepare for lost camp income, summer league and in the event of lost time (and/or lost participation) in the fall. Several of these clubs will also lose a major tournament this spring as well. However, many corporations have cut the pay to the executives (the executives have willingly done this) to keep their employees' wages going.
I am concerned about the coaches. I hope they manage this drop in income. It does not surprise me though. Medical offices and hospitals have been furloughing employees for weeks. Many companies have laid off workers. There are a lot of people that have lost wages.
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 21, 2020 8:28:30 GMT -5
refund refund refund why you no want pay coach my hijo he coach do video coaching so coach still working no his no good to no pay the coach so if no pay you give me money back for the next year rapido
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 21, 2020 9:10:47 GMT -5
refund refund refund why you no want pay coach my hijo he coach do video coaching so coach still working no his no good to no pay the coach so if no pay you give me money back for the next year rapido While, as usual, I have a lot of trouble understanding your way of speaking, I have to agree that if the coaches are doing video sessions the clubs should pay them. This makes me wonder if our video sessions will be stopped now. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Apr 21, 2020 9:27:07 GMT -5
refund refund refund why you no want pay coach my hijo he coach do video coaching so coach still working no his no good to no pay the coach so if no pay you give me money back for the next year rapido I have to agree that if the coaches are doing video sessions the clubs should pay them. This makes me wonder if our video sessions will be stopped now. Google translate needs to add 'stroke'. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Apr 21, 2020 9:43:39 GMT -5
Her troll game is exceptional or English isn't her first language. Either way, kudos  |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Apr 21, 2020 9:51:30 GMT -5
I don't know if it was intentional, but ... I feel like her avatar looks, when reading any of soccergurl's posts.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 21, 2020 10:08:51 GMT -5
I explained this in another post but the 2.2 trillion stimulus law also allows 1099 contract employees to file for unemployment which has never happened in the past. It also gets them that extra $600 in unemployment that usually doesn't happen either. Laying them off helps the coaches get that money and I think they get it even if they had gotten paid all their money already though, I know for SSA more get it in distributions throughout the year not all at once in the fall.
I think it is a win-win for the club and the coach for the time being. I still think all the good coaches will eventually be retained and given a new contract once fall starts again.
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Post by honeybadger on Apr 21, 2020 11:04:41 GMT -5
I just hope coach Claudin for our 05 Norcross girls is back. My daughter thinks he's the best coach she's ever had. If my kid is happy I'm happy:)
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 21, 2020 11:28:37 GMT -5
While, as usual, I have a lot of trouble understanding your way of speaking, I have to agree that if the coaches are doing video sessions the clubs should pay them. This makes me wonder if our video sessions will be stopped now. Google translate needs to add 'stroke'. english his not my mother language but me mama she have stroke das no funny to me amigo but I know you no know about me mama so no worry his all bueno |
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Post by soccergurl on Apr 21, 2020 11:29:49 GMT -5
I just hope coach Claudin for our 05 Norcross girls is back. My daughter thinks he's the best coach she's ever had. If my kid is happy I'm happy:) me to his good coach but how he feed his family now maybe we do collection like in church |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Apr 21, 2020 12:30:37 GMT -5
I just hope coach Claudin for our 05 Norcross girls is back. My daughter thinks he's the best coach she's ever had. If my kid is happy I'm happy:) me to his good coach but how he feed his family now maybe we do collection like in church I have considered this for one of my kid's coach. Single parent. Awesome coach. He has confirmed that all of the coaches were told to file for PPP. |
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Post by soccerdad64 on Apr 21, 2020 14:03:51 GMT -5
I explained this in another post but the 2.2 trillion stimulus law also allows 1099 contract employees to file for unemployment which has never happened in the past. It also gets them that extra $600 in unemployment that usually doesn't happen either. Laying them off helps the coaches get that money and I think they get it even if they had gotten paid all their money already though, I know for SSA more get it in distributions throughout the year not all at once in the fall. I think it is a win-win for the club and the coach for the time being. I still think all the good coaches will eventually be retained and given a new contract once fall starts again. Except, most of the coaches who are 1099 have other jobs and won't qualify for the unemployment. The SSA coach you're referring to received information that was shortsighted and factually incorrect. A majority of their coaches will be denied and I would bet money they lose kids and coaches from the Buckhead location to Concord. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Apr 21, 2020 16:09:01 GMT -5
I explained this in another post but the 2.2 trillion stimulus law also allows 1099 contract employees to file for unemployment which has never happened in the past. It also gets them that extra $600 in unemployment that usually doesn't happen either. Laying them off helps the coaches get that money and I think they get it even if they had gotten paid all their money already though, I know for SSA more get it in distributions throughout the year not all at once in the fall. I think it is a win-win for the club and the coach for the time being. I still think all the good coaches will eventually be retained and given a new contract once fall starts again. Except, most of the coaches who are 1099 have other jobs and won't qualify for the unemployment. The SSA coach you're referring to received information that was shortsighted and factually incorrect. A majority of their coaches will be denied and I would bet money they lose kids and coaches from the Buckhead location to Concord. I'm sorry that you think you know more than me but in fact the coach I'm talking about has no other job and is retired, so he will indeed be eligible and get unemployment. As I said in another post the other people that have other jobs (most likely higher paying than SSA) were never going to file unemployment to begin with and they counted the SSA gig as extra money. On that aspect it is what it is. I got my referee license to start making extra money and referee with my kid, and it seems I wasted my money on uniforms and the class for at least a half a season. You don't hear me griping about it. It sucks, I think the whole thing is overblown, but it is what it is, and I wasn't counting on that money, and I'm sure none of these coaches with day jobs were counting on it either in the scheme of things. |
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 21, 2020 18:57:16 GMT -5
Sadly, this is not some attempt at usurping the system and trying to make sure these coaches are made as whole as possible. IMO this is straight up mismanagement. If the pandemic had not occurred what would they have done, get a loan on next seasons' fees and dues to pay the coaches? Keep in mind, they are not paying for the field rentals, the maintenance of the fields, regular club operation expenses like water, ice, sports drinks, meetings with donuts and other snacks. Oh yeah and the big one, Referees. I get we are in uncharted times, at least pay a reduced amount but don't have them all call into a Zoom meeting and be like yup, we're not going to pay you anymore, wait what? I was not a proponent of refunds since through no fault of the coaches and the club we could not partake in soccer activities. But now, I'm saying for all of you that are part of a club that has chosen to release its coaches, I think a partial refund is within order... Fyi, field rentals and league fees were prepaid...so they need to get that money back. Will Forsyth Parks & Rec refund them? Will GA Soccer send fees back? |
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 21, 2020 18:58:25 GMT -5
Her troll game is exceptional or English isn't her first language. Either way, kudos She thinks shes funny....just ignore her. When called out she can speak proper english....just go back to previous threads 🙄 |
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Post by SoccerMom on Apr 21, 2020 19:05:39 GMT -5
I explained this in another post but the 2.2 trillion stimulus law also allows 1099 contract employees to file for unemployment which has never happened in the past. It also gets them that extra $600 in unemployment that usually doesn't happen either. Laying them off helps the coaches get that money and I think they get it even if they had gotten paid all their money already though, I know for SSA more get it in distributions throughout the year not all at once in the fall. I think it is a win-win for the club and the coach for the time being. I still think all the good coaches will eventually be retained and given a new contract once fall starts again. No one has been released, the clubs all applied for the PPP, 3 clubs got funds but were told that only w2 employees included. Most coaches if not all are 1099. Coaches have been told to apply as a precaution, no one wants them to be with no $$. For some of these coaches, this is their only job and they can't even supplement with extra training. At least if they get unemployment they can get something to get them buy until fields reopen. Its a bad situation all around |
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