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Post by dsquariusgreenjr on Sept 23, 2013 17:16:11 GMT -5
What is the story on the "Norcross" Atlanta Eagles? Is this the result of a merger?
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 23, 2013 18:09:15 GMT -5
From what I understand, the Atlanta Eagles club is an alliance club with NSA. The Eagles are a extremely small club and don't have the ability to go to other clubs in Metro Atlanta and schedule friendlies against them due to the Eagles not being able to field enough teams (mostly single teams per age group) to play against the likes of NASA, NSA, Concorde, etc. so they are joining with NSA in the scheduling of the weekly friendlies in the Academy age levels. I know that they do have at least one indoor facility off Buford Hwy right by I-285. (I used to shop there as a kid when it was Lionel Playworld) I think they are trying to get bigger but need some help getting started until they get accomplished. Their coaching fees and overall select dues are much lower than most other clubs. It's a nice alternative for those who might not be able to afford the higher fees that other clubs charge but yet don't qualify for scholarship opportunities. Personally, I think it's a good thing to get some players that had the talent and skill to play Select but not the financial abilities the opportunity. PS. If someone else knows more information or if any of my information is incorrect, please let me know. Don't want to put bad info out there. Just posting what I understand to be correct.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2013 19:14:05 GMT -5
i think there is also an issue with them needing georgia soccer affiliation to play classic etc, i might be mistaken, but i do not think they have that on their own and hence need to play under the Norcross umbrella.
they have some quality players scattered on some of their teams. its also made for a beneficial situation, where some of their top players can guest when possible for NPL and non georgia soccer games etc.
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Post by jash on Sept 23, 2013 21:53:49 GMT -5
Hopefully their affiliation with Norcross will help them clean up some of the 'fast and loose' attitudes about player ages they have had in the past. When we played them in Academy there was one player known to be two (it may have been three) grades ahead of all of our kids... known as in one of his former teachers was there in the crowd.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 24, 2013 5:33:58 GMT -5
Hopefully their affiliation with Norcross will help them clean up some of the 'fast and loose' attitudes about player ages they have had in the past. When we played them in Academy there was one player known to be two (it may have been three) grades ahead of all of our kids... known as in one of his former teachers was there in the crowd. I hope so too. There is no room for that kind of stuff. Truthfully, while it does affect the other team, the person it really hurts is the over-aged kid. How is he developing as a player when he plays down an age or two every game? I just don't see why people do that. At the younger ages, it's about developing players...winning doesn't mean a hill of beans...especially if you have to cheat to do it. |
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Post by pooldawg on Sept 24, 2013 5:55:35 GMT -5
When I was our club's Academy scheduler a couple of years ago, the Eagles were actually affiliated with the Spurs. Prior to that, it was Alianza. I'm guessing it's for the same reasons mentioned above with regard to needing a club affiliation for Ga Soccer.
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Sept 30, 2013 16:13:08 GMT -5
This alliance should also help Norcross, their recreation program the past few seasons have lost many of their players. The past few seasons the number of teams and players are getting smaller.
As another post mentioned before Atlanta Eagles have been affiliated with other clubs. My question is why has it not worked out those others in the past? Will it work with Norcross considering the past at other clubs and the current recreation players becoming limited at Norcross? |
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 30, 2013 18:11:26 GMT -5
Yep...the Rec program at NSA has gotten alot smaller the past few years. I wonder if this is the case at other local clubs as more and more players are fed into the select system. Our 9 year old that plays Select actually played a scrimmage against one of the rec teams at our club since they only have two teams in the age group and they've already played head to head twice. I know that the u12 Rec girls actually traveled to other clubs due to the fact they only had one team in that age group. When my oldest played there were 6-10 teams per age group. I'd be interested in someone else's take on what has happened.
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Post by fan on Sept 30, 2013 19:47:19 GMT -5
Yep...the Rec program at NSA has gotten alot smaller the past few years. I wonder if this is the case at other local clubs as more and more players are fed into the select system. Our 9 year old that plays Select actually played a scrimmage against one of the rec teams at our club since they only have two teams in the age group and they've already played head to head twice. I know that the u12 Rec girls actually traveled to other clubs due to the fact they only had one team in that age group. When my oldest played there were 6-10 teams per age group. I'd be interested in someone else's take on what has happened. Wow, I wonder what that will mean for NSA's select program in a few years. I had heard rumors that NSA was interested in pairing up with TYSA because of their big rec program but I guess TYSA had closer ties to GSA. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 20:14:19 GMT -5
NSA is doing fine right now on the boys side in the academy.
Boys side
U12s is weak though. Not much depth.
Top 11s are strong
Tops 10s are very very Good. Tony coaches them.
Even the top 2 9 teams are playing well. Quality teams playing the right way.
The girls side for academy lost some numbers to jones bridge rec a few years ago and are still lacking numbers.
The top 9s are a strong little team with 5-6 real quality players. The current 10s and 11s are not deep at all and nothing to brag about. The 12s are quick and have some talented girls, but currently don't have enough for 11v11. Will struggle to fill out that roster in the spring, but only a few player away.
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Post by zizou on Sept 30, 2013 20:52:44 GMT -5
How many kids in the NSA rec program?
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Post by jack4343 on Oct 1, 2013 4:19:39 GMT -5
NSA is doing fine right now on the boys side in the academy. Boys side U12s is weak though. Not much depth. Top 11s are strong Tops 10s are very very Good. Tony coaches them. Even the top 2 9 teams are playing well. Quality teams playing the right way. The girls side for academy lost some numbers to jones bridge rec a few years ago and are still lacking numbers. The top 9s are a strong little team with 5-6 real quality players. The current 10s and 11s are not deep at all and nothing to brag about. The 12s are quick and have some talented girls, but currently don't have enough for 11v11. Will struggle to fill out that roster in the spring, but only a few player away. Sorry I wasn't too clear on my post. I was talking about the girls in Rec. The boys still have good sized numbers. I had forgotten about Jones Bridge. In fact, one of my girl's favorite coaches in Rec went to Jones Bridge to coach. He was great and taught the girls alot about the basics of soccer. |
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Post by zizou on Oct 1, 2013 11:24:50 GMT -5
What you need are big developmental program numbers at U6 and U8. Then they should be feeding best kids to academy. If numbers are down in those young age groups there is probably trouble for long term growth. Numbers can decrease for a number of reasons I suppose. Inter-club competition. Lack of investment on part of club. Quality of developmental experience provided by club. Population shifts. Quality of facilities.
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Post by 4theloveofsoccer on Oct 1, 2013 19:19:19 GMT -5
I agree with a previous poster on NSA having over age players playing on teams they should not be on which is a common trend with them and with the low numbers of players in the recreation program age groups to select talent for NSA. Which is not good news in the long and short term for the club. The community and kids deserve the best from this club and hopefully they will turn it around and get it back how it used to be. As with many other clubs, organizations, companies, and etc. there is always ups and downs along with changes and transitions. It is up to the leaders to make it happen and be successful in the right way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2013 20:26:36 GMT -5
We are supposed to play them in October. Do they pay fees to NSA or just Atlanta Eagles? Their registration is crazy cheap! $150 then $70 a month
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Post by jack4343 on Oct 3, 2013 5:46:27 GMT -5
We are supposed to play them in October. Do they pay fees to NSA or just Atlanta Eagles? Their registration is crazy cheap! $150 then $70 a month I think they are completely seperate and do not pay fees to NSA. The Atlanta Eagles club might pay something to NSA for the right to join the NSA teams in the weekly schedules but I do not have any knowledge on that. |
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Post by dsquariusgreenjr on Oct 3, 2013 6:26:39 GMT -5
I have heard they had some "big money" private investors over the past year. They own 2 indoor facilities and the one off Beaver Ruin is undergoing a big make over. They added artificial turf outdoor fields. It's interesting to me that people would be willing to invest so much money and then charge such low fees. I don't think they are doing it out of the kindness off their hearts but perhaps a very "long term" mindset. I guess that's just the way the be rollin'.
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Post by special1 on Nov 16, 2014 9:08:29 GMT -5
What you need are big developmental program numbers at U6 and U8. Then they should be feeding best kids to academy. If numbers are down in those young age groups there is probably trouble for long term growth. Numbers can decrease for a number of reasons I suppose. Inter-club competition. Lack of investment on part of club. Quality of developmental experience provided by club. Population shifts. Quality of facilities. True indeed |
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