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Post by soccerfutbolfam on May 30, 2020 11:50:18 GMT -5
So a formerly exclusive, invitation only league (not quite at the highest exclusive, invitation only level - but one step closer maybe) is opening up to more teams and will organize by promotion and relegation. Will they go ahead and end the season with a “state cup”? Because that would show it’s come full circle with not a single thing gained except a shift of whom is in control. And money stuff. Amazing progress. There would be a gain. The people behind the new curtain would have more of what is in your wallet in theirs, they would have more notariety and more parents afraid to say anything because NOW with SCCL, if you want to be 'in the in crowd' if you speak out, they will shut you up in a heart beat. And that my friend is why we had (or didn't have) tryouts this year. Some clubs were ready. Others were Not. and a couple didn't want to lose some of their favorite players. And - really - who is in control? My bet is that it is the least likely three-5 people most of everyone on this board would imagine. |
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Post by atlutd17 on May 30, 2020 11:52:00 GMT -5
So a formerly exclusive, invitation only league (not quite at the highest exclusive, invitation only level - but one step closer maybe) is opening up to more teams and will organize by promotion and relegation. Will they go ahead and end the season with a “state cup”? Because that would show it’s come full circle with not a single thing gained except a shift of whom is in control. And money stuff. Amazing progress. Money talks, that's no secret. CF was going to organize it this spring and allow teams outside SCCL to make it inclusive. CF through US Club SCCL and the support of the biggest clubs have pretty much replaced Ga soccer for league registrations and tournament play, where basically all the revenue is. Like it or not, it is what it is in 2020 and time will be the judge of it all. As for State Cup to be for real like it used to 1) every top team ECNL, former DA, NL etc etc should be all in, and 2) there has to be a clear pathway to play into a real Regional/National Championship. Until that happens, will be nothing but a lower level imitation of the hot ole days in Columbus. |
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Post by atlutd17 on May 30, 2020 12:05:12 GMT -5
So a formerly exclusive, invitation only league (not quite at the highest exclusive, invitation only level - but one step closer maybe) is opening up to more teams and will organize by promotion and relegation. Will they go ahead and end the season with a “state cup”? Because that would show it’s come full circle with not a single thing gained except a shift of whom is in control. And money stuff. Amazing progress. Money talks, that's no secret. CF was going to organize it this spring and allow teams outside SCCL to make it inclusive. CF through US Club SCCL and the support of the biggest clubs have pretty much replaced Ga soccer for league registrations and tournament play, where basically all the revenue is. Like it or not, it is what it is in 2020 and time will be the judge of it all. As for State Cup to be for real like it used to 1) every top team ECNL, former DA, NL etc etc should be all in, and 2) a clear pathway into a real Regional/National Championship. |
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Post by rifle on May 30, 2020 14:28:59 GMT -5
So a formerly exclusive, invitation only league (not quite at the highest exclusive, invitation only level - but one step closer maybe) is opening up to more teams and will organize by promotion and relegation. Will they go ahead and end the season with a “state cup”? Because that would show it’s come full circle with not a single thing gained except a shift of whom is in control. And money stuff. Amazing progress. Money talks, that's no secret. CF was going to organize it this spring and allow teams outside SCCL to make it inclusive. CF through US Club SCCL and the support of the biggest clubs have pretty much replaced Ga soccer for league registrations and tournament play, where basically all the revenue is. Like it or not, it is what it is in 2020 and time will be the judge of it all. As for State Cup to be for real like it used to 1) every top team ECNL, former DA, NL etc etc should be all in, and 2) there has to be a clear pathway to play into a real Regional/National Championship. Until that happens, will be nothing but a lower level imitation of the hot ole days in Columbus. every league, club and team can’t each claim to be best if they all compete in one place... so that will never happen. I don’t really have a problem with people taking action after RPL became so poorly run. I just wish the competitive levels had a clear hierarchy that self regulates by on-field performance - rather than gamesmanship and politics. |
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Post by bogan on May 30, 2020 15:04:23 GMT -5
Money talks, that's no secret. CF was going to organize it this spring and allow teams outside SCCL to make it inclusive. CF through US Club SCCL and the support of the biggest clubs have pretty much replaced Ga soccer for league registrations and tournament play, where basically all the revenue is. Like it or not, it is what it is in 2020 and time will be the judge of it all. As for State Cup to be for real like it used to 1) every top team ECNL, former DA, NL etc etc should be all in, and 2) there has to be a clear pathway to play into a real Regional/National Championship. Until that happens, will be nothing but a lower level imitation of the hot ole days in Columbus. every league, club and team can’t each claim to be best if they all compete in one place... so that will never happen. I don’t really have a problem with people taking action after RPL became so poorly run. I just wish the competitive levels had a clear hierarchy that self regulates by on-field performance - rather than gamesmanship and politics. ...like pro-rel? |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 31, 2020 21:35:27 GMT -5
I do know for a fact that a club close to me was not voted in to SCCL. So they aren't accepting everyone. They have to meet certain criteria club wide.
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Post by atlutd17 on May 31, 2020 21:37:40 GMT -5
I do know for a fact that a club close to me was not voted in to SCCL. So they aren't accepting everyone. They have to meet certain criteria club wide. What exactly are the criteria? |
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 31, 2020 22:38:05 GMT -5
I do know for a fact that a club close to me was not voted in to SCCL. So they aren't accepting everyone. They have to meet certain criteria club wide. You mean top flight, correct? |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 1, 2020 6:53:31 GMT -5
I do know for a fact that a club close to me was not voted in to SCCL. So they aren't accepting everyone. They have to meet certain criteria club wide. You mean top flight, correct? No I mean for the Premier level. There are clubs applying for P level that are not getting in. AFC being one of them. At least that is what I heard from several sources that know the inter-workings of SCCL. Take it for what it is worth. I was shocked they didn't apply, but it turns out they did and were not accepted. I would not have believed it had I not heard it from multiple sources, and I generally am not someone that likes to spread rumors on here. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 1, 2020 6:56:33 GMT -5
I do know for a fact that a club close to me was not voted in to SCCL. So they aren't accepting everyone. They have to meet certain criteria club wide. What exactly are the criteria? That I don't know. I have never asked. I know from your posts you are one that does not like SCCL. It is what it is at this point. I'm going to try to position my kid in the best league he can be in that makes sense for us. Right now GA Soccer doesn't look like the place to be. Maybe that changes in 5-10 years but by then my kid and/or kids will be out of youth soccer, and I won't care. I think the founding members vote the P teams in or out. I would imagine strength of club throughout all age groups and girls/boys has to do with it, and I would imagine yes there are probably politics involved and if that club pissed off the majority founding members in the past or not. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 1, 2020 8:55:46 GMT -5
That honestly doesn't make sense (AFC being rejected).
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 1, 2020 9:02:40 GMT -5
What exactly are the criteria? That I don't know. I have never asked. I know from your posts you are one that does not like SCCL. It is what it is at this point. I'm going to try to position my kid in the best league he can be in that makes sense for us. Right now GA Soccer doesn't look like the place to be. Maybe that changes in 5-10 years but by then my kid and/or kids will be out of youth soccer, and I won't care. I think the founding members vote the P teams in or out. I would imagine strength of club throughout all age groups and girls/boys has to do with it, and I would imagine yes there are probably politics involved and if that club pissed off the majority founding members in the past or not. We're missing the elephant in the room but for most may not be worth the effort. Wish it were that simple. But strictly from the parent point of view, you nailed it. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 1, 2020 9:16:15 GMT -5
That honestly doesn't make sense (AFC being rejected). One theory is it's personal. Another theory is AFC would not give up NPL and NL for its top teams, only wanted SCCL-P for its lower level teams to reduce travel. Big boys said all or nothing. There are more ways than one to interpret what all this really means, if true. But none have anything to do with the players on the field, while it should be all that matters. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 1, 2020 9:25:45 GMT -5
That honestly doesn't make sense (AFC being rejected). One theory is it's personal. Another theory is AFC would not give up NPL and NL for its top teams, only wanted SCCL-P for its lower level teams to reduce travel. Big boys said all or nothing. There are more ways than one to interpret what all this really means, if true. But none have anything to do with the players on the field, while it should be all that matters. I vote for it being personal. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 1, 2020 12:02:52 GMT -5
Gotta be personal. UFA and SSA both are still in NPL, and I don't think SCCL "brain trust" cares if you leave a team or 2 in the whats left of NL.
Perhaps AFC wanted SCCL-C for its 2nd teams and the PTB (rightfully) balked at the idea.
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jun 1, 2020 18:30:45 GMT -5
There's zero reason for AFC to not be in ~at least~ SCCL-p. Some of the teams in SCCL-C might have a hard time fielding u12-18 boys and girls (which I believe is a requirement). And SCCL-p, some of those clubs... that's the only team period... much less a first or second or whatever team. AFC being shut out is ridiculous.
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 2, 2020 16:14:11 GMT -5
I was told about a year ago things would get worse before they get better.
They were absolutely right on the first part. I'm looking forward to the second.
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