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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 1, 2020 11:16:40 GMT -5
It's interesting -- i've spoken to some DOCs outside of the city and many don't want any part of a league with the MLS clubs -- They aren't openly vocal about this opinion because it's not politically correct, but many seem to blame the MLS as much as the federation for the DA demise -- the tiered approached was the nail in the coffin.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 1, 2020 11:34:17 GMT -5
Respectfully, I have to remind folks that the MLS and their academies are in a colossal no win situation. They are too few and spread out teams in the league to have a profitable non-life disrupting schedule for the academy kids. School is important to most parents, so they are not fully willing to buy in 100% ergo*(consequently) why 17 year old prospects from other countries get looked at while those locally get passed over. When the academies are in the same division with other non-MLS clubs and they put a smack down, folks cry foul. On the rare occasion where the MLS clubs lose, folks take to the hills to shout out loudly that the MLS isn't about development. I personally think the MLS academies need all types of challenges. Play within the MLS, participate in international local tournaments like the GA Cup, whilst also going to Europe and South America to take on local academies in friendlies and local tournaments. This way you're constantly accessing and adjusting to your peers on both continents and hopefully improving...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 1, 2020 11:39:28 GMT -5
1a. CF 1 1b. UFA BIG GAP 3.NASA 4.gsa 5. Cf 2 6 - the rest : Going to be a long year I think NASA and GSA are going to surprise folks. They have good coaching and some very good pieces were added including some former AU players... |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Jul 1, 2020 12:17:07 GMT -5
The boys U16 ECNL age group (2005s) will be a knock-down-drag-out affair! I don’t think ECNL will award 5 playoff spots to an 11-team conference, so you’ll see AU, both CF squads, UFA, and NASA (and don’t sleep on AFU & GSA) for 3-4 playoff spots. And that’s only if the 1 Alabama & 3 Tennessee haven’t gotten better to the point where they achieve surprising results.
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Post by thisonedude on Jul 1, 2020 12:29:25 GMT -5
I suck at quoting....here's my question:So, will the 15s and 17s play in ECNL at all? Or just the other AU age groups with the 15s and 17s playing in the MLS league. |
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Post by thisonedude on Jul 1, 2020 12:50:41 GMT -5
I'd be interested in reading someone in the know's age group-by-age group ranking for the boys. maybe that was done upthread somewhere.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 1, 2020 12:53:15 GMT -5
I'd be interested in reading someone in the know's age group-by-age group ranking for the boys. maybe that was done upthread somewhere. That is a fools errand because with the dissolution of DA and the increase of the # of ECNL teams, then you factor in the movement of players some for friends, some for price, some for coaches and others because it's down the street from home and you come to one conclusion - No one knows and you're just going to have to watch them play... |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 1, 2020 12:57:54 GMT -5
thisonedude No, officially they won't play in the ECNL. However, some of the players will. The 15s(2006) and the 17s(2004) are made up of players from other age groups. So take the 17s, they will be made up of 2005s and 2004s. Same with the 15s, some will also play up with the 2005s. All in all, should you play the AU teams three times in one season, you could see 3 different teams since they constantly move players up and down based on injury, nat'l team commitments and a need to challenge some of the players...
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Post by thisonedude on Jul 1, 2020 13:18:15 GMT -5
I'd be interested in reading someone in the know's age group-by-age group ranking for the boys. maybe that was done upthread somewhere. That is a fools errand because with the dissolution of DA and the increase of the # of ECNL teams, then you factor in the movement of players some for friends, some for price, some for coaches and others because it's down the street from home and you come to one conclusion - No one knows and you're just going to have to watch them play... Now wait just a minute...are you saying that one cannot engage in rampant and unsubstantiated speculation on a message board on the interwebs? If not here, where? If not now, when?
Anyway, yeah. I agree. It's a fool's errand...almost like trying to rank, in aggregate, the performance of 5 or 6 age groups across 5 to 7 teams fielded by 5 or 6 clubs. Fool's errands abound. The one I'm interested in is an age-by-age prediction.
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Post by soccerdad23 on Jul 1, 2020 14:32:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know if ECNL for 15+ is now intended to be full year? Or still fall only?
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Post by guest on Jul 1, 2020 15:26:24 GMT -5
FG: you have used the word “ergo” twice in one thread. Ergo, you have reached the ProBoard limit.
Respectfully,
The Underground Grammarian
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 1, 2020 17:07:35 GMT -5
FG: you have used the word “ergo” twice in one thread. Ergo, you have reached the ProBoard limit. Respectfully, The Underground Grammarian I have made the notification on my post, erg..oops, therefore, I think I might only get a warning this time around  |
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jul 1, 2020 17:46:26 GMT -5
1a. CF 1 1b. UFA BIG GAP 3.NASA 4.gsa 5. Cf 2 6 - the rest : Going to be a long year I think NASA and GSA are going to surprise folks. They have good coaching and some very good pieces were added including some former AU players... This will be interesting for SURE. Many from last season's NASA ECNL team have moved to UFA, and at least 1 player moved to NASA from Concorde ECNL. I guess the point is: NASA/UFA/CONCORDE should place 2,3,4 (with ATL UTD assumed to take 1st) |
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jul 1, 2020 17:50:30 GMT -5
I'd be interested in reading someone in the know's age group-by-age group ranking for the boys. maybe that was done upthread somewhere. If whole teams stayed together as a unit from season to season, this would be MUCH less hard to do. However since most of these teams gain / lose players and coaches from season to season - it is a difficult (impossible?) task. Player movement is a WHOLE OTHER THREAD... |
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 2, 2020 19:09:11 GMT -5
1a. CF 1 1b. UFA BIG GAP 3.NASA 4.gsa 5. Cf 2 6 - the rest : Going to be a long year ^^^ So is this ranking some sort of average from u13 through u18/19 composite or do you have specific age groups in mind? |
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Post by keepitreal on Jul 3, 2020 18:00:29 GMT -5
CF PLATUNUM 🔥
AU
UFA
CF PREMIER
GSA
NASA
ATLANTA FIRE
EVERYTHING ELSE
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Post by soccernotfootball on Jul 4, 2020 10:03:24 GMT -5
CF PLATUNUM 🔥 AU UFA CF PREMIER GSA NASA ATLANTA FIRE EVERYTHING ELSE Avg of every team u13 through u18/19 composite or a particular age group? |
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Post by Will on Jul 4, 2020 12:21:11 GMT -5
My Non-Bias 2005 Boys Way Too Early ECNL Club Rankings (Just for fun)
1. Atlanta United(NEW)- A big club coming from DA with professional facilities and coaches attracting nothing but the best players
2. UFA(NEW)- Another club coming from DA after beating and finishing above Concorde Fire
3. Concorde Fire Platinum- With the end of DA, they will be adding those players to their new ECNL roster creating a strong team
4. NASA- After a strong season I do not see them slowing down, as well as them adding a few players, it looks good for them
5. Concorde Fire Premier- Will likely have former players from last years ECNL squad that finished 1st last season
6. Chattanooga Red Wolves(NEW)- After finishing 1st in the NPL, and finishing as finalist in the Disney Showcase, they could have a strong team
7. Atlanta Fire- This was a throw up between GSA and Atlanta Fire, but after seeing that they beat GSA 6-1 and tieing 1-1, they would be ahead off of head to head.
8. GSA- They played an up and down season last year. If they could play for consistent, they could have a strong season
9. Alabama FC- After finishing their last season at 8th, they would be looking to bounce back better. With them going undefeated in the Gulf States College Showcase, I wouldn't be shocked if they finished higher.
10. Tennessee SC- With the final two teams being between them and FC Alliance, I looked at the Head to Head. Tennessee SC had an 4-2 win and a 0-0 tie.
11. FC Alliance- After finishing 10th last season, I would put them around there again
NOTE: These rankings are "Way too Early" so do not take them to heart. Also these rankings only consist of teams from Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Jul 5, 2020 10:35:54 GMT -5
My Non-Bias 2005 Boys Way Too Early ECNL Club Rankings (Just for fun) 1. Atlanta United( NEW)- A big club coming from DA with professional facilities and coaches attracting nothing but the best players 2. UFA( NEW)- Another club coming from DA after beating and finishing above Concorde Fire 3. Concorde Fire- With the end of DA, they will be adding those players to the current ECNL roster creating a strong team 4. NASA- After a strong season I do not see them slowing down, as well as them adding a few players, it looks good for them 5. Chattanooga Red Wolves( NEW)- After finishing 1st in the NPL, and finishing as finalist in the Disney Showcase, they could have a strong team 6. Atlanta Fire- This was a throw up between GSA and Atlanta Fire, but after seeing that they beat GSA 6-1 and tieing 1-1, they would be ahead off of head to head. 7. GSA- They played an up and down season last year. If they could play for consistent, they could have a strong season 8. Alabama FC- After finishing their last season at 8th, they would be looking to bounce back better. With them going undefeated in the Gulf States College Showcase, I wouldn't be shocked if they finished higher. 9. Tennessee SC- With the final two teams being between them and FC Alliance, I looked at the Head to Head. Tennessee SC had an 4-2 win and a 0-0 tie. 10. FC Alliance- After finishing 10th last season, I would put them there again NOTE: These rankings are "Way too Early" so do not take them to heart. Also these rankings only consist of teams from Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. Not bad - but you need to split out Concorde Fire into 2 teams: Platinum & Premier. From what I understand, last year’s ECNL team only changed 1 player and last year’s DA team has changed at least 4 players. In scrimmages last year the teams looked evenly matched. |
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Post by Will on Jul 5, 2020 22:19:52 GMT -5
My Non-Bias 2005 Boys Way Too Early ECNL Club Rankings (Just for fun) 1. Atlanta United( NEW)- A big club coming from DA with professional facilities and coaches attracting nothing but the best players 2. UFA( NEW)- Another club coming from DA after beating and finishing above Concorde Fire 3. Concorde Fire- With the end of DA, they will be adding those players to the current ECNL roster creating a strong team 4. NASA- After a strong season I do not see them slowing down, as well as them adding a few players, it looks good for them 5. Chattanooga Red Wolves( NEW)- After finishing 1st in the NPL, and finishing as finalist in the Disney Showcase, they could have a strong team 6. Atlanta Fire- This was a throw up between GSA and Atlanta Fire, but after seeing that they beat GSA 6-1 and tieing 1-1, they would be ahead off of head to head. 7. GSA- They played an up and down season last year. If they could play for consistent, they could have a strong season 8. Alabama FC- After finishing their last season at 8th, they would be looking to bounce back better. With them going undefeated in the Gulf States College Showcase, I wouldn't be shocked if they finished higher. 9. Tennessee SC- With the final two teams being between them and FC Alliance, I looked at the Head to Head. Tennessee SC had an 4-2 win and a 0-0 tie. 10. FC Alliance- After finishing 10th last season, I would put them there again NOTE: These rankings are "Way too Early" so do not take them to heart. Also these rankings only consist of teams from Tennessee, Georgia, and Alabama. Not bad - but you need to split out Concorde Fire into 2 teams: Platinum & Premier. From what I understand, last year’s ECNL team only changed 1 player and last year’s DA team has changed at least 4 players. In scrimmages last year the teams looked evenly matched. True... Which team do you think is better? |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Jul 6, 2020 0:42:55 GMT -5
Not bad - but you need to split out Concorde Fire into 2 teams: Platinum & Premier. From what I understand, last year’s ECNL team only changed 1 player and last year’s DA team has changed at least 4 players. In scrimmages last year the teams looked evenly matched. True... Which team do you think is better? They’ll have to play the games to answer that question. The Premier team has played together a long time and found ways to win the close games last year and the Platinum team was really disappointing in DA league play last year with trouble winning those tight games despite having a lot of talent. Both are quality sides with something to prove. I’m wondering if the UFA squad can continue their good play from last year. If I had to handicap it, I’d have AU on top, followed by one of those CF teams and NASA fighting for 2nd and 3rd, and then UFA at 4th, and the other CF team at 5th, but I have no idea which of those CF teams will be the more dominant one at this point. Also the GSA & AFU sides came up just short in many of their games last year - if either one of those teams addressed needs, have a call or two go their way, and a little bit of luck they could make some noise. I don’t know anything about the Red Wolves but I’d be surprised if the other four teams found their way into the playoffs. Edit: I see the 05 Red Wolves did well in their NPL conference last year but they are still a question mark to me, as every single team in the Southeastern ECNL conference for 2020/2021 is better than any team they faced last year. |
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