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Post by newposter on Jun 8, 2020 19:50:52 GMT -5
Nuno at GSA
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 8, 2020 20:09:46 GMT -5
First off, great topic. Second, I'm new to the board but have an 07 daughter who is going into her 5th year playing club after 4 years playing for a church rec league with yours truly as her coach. I have 2010 twin daughters, one of whom is going into her 2nd year playing club.
Oldest played her first 2 years at Concorde Central. I was the TM both years and frankly we didn't have a great experience. I never once met anyone with "director" in their title at Concorde. We flirted with UFA Norcross after our 1st year at Concorde (she made their Premier team with Coach Renata) but decided not to make the jump due to the commute to practices 3 times/week combined with family concerns/logistics. Looking back, I wish we had just jumped in and made it work. After our 2nd year at Concorde, we finally pulled the trigger and moved her to UFA. She made the 2nd team and Renata was her coach. We loved the feel of the club and I had regular access to the directors, especially since I was the TM for the team. Communications were much better, they published the coaching assignments well in advance of tryouts, etc. Renata was again her coach this past year playing SCCL-P at U13. Her coaching was much better than anything we got at Concorde.
I know UFA has had some issues (with a change of directors and the firing of a coach that's been discussed on this board recently) but I think all clubs have their warts and we've just had a much better experience at UFA and were happy to continue there as my daughter moves into U14. I've been very impressed with our new coach, Jeremy McNeill, so far.
My younger one played U10 for Chiefs this past year. Great experience, great atmosphere, really like the coaches and very impressed with Neil McNab as director of the club. I really like his vision of what soccer (and really, youth sports in general) should be for these kids. We're staying with them for next season, although I hate that they're losing the "Chiefs" name as they change to "Rush Union". But I know why they made the name change so it's all good. I've been impressed with Matt Cross and Steve Reid, both of whom coached my daughter's U10 team. Also should mention Tiffany Rodriguez, who helped run practices a good bit and coached a few games in a pinch. Steve Reid is GREAT with the girls in the U9-U12 age group.
I'll be interested to follow this thread to see what others say about clubs in the metro Atlanta area.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 8, 2020 20:25:40 GMT -5
The smaller clubs probably communicate better and more personally. Doug and Ambush do a great job at telling the parents what's going on and what to expect. Obviously if your child progresses to higher levels there's a point you might have to leave to move up to higher levels, but starting out there's nothing wrong with the tlc the small club gives.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 8, 2020 20:29:15 GMT -5
Truth is there is very little “leadership” at the mega clubs. There are plenty of highly paid people with titles but little in the way of leadership. The smaller clubs seem to do a better job of leadership but once it grows to a mega club the leadership suffers.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Jun 8, 2020 20:31:18 GMT -5
What about Nuno at GSA? I have heard he is a really good coach and develops players. I have not heard anything about him as a Director (per the GSA site he is the Director of Player Development / Boys Director). Drew is the Executive Director, and Campbell is the Technical Director / Girls Director (per the GSA website).
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Post by newposter on Jun 8, 2020 20:48:19 GMT -5
Original poster mentioned DOC. He is for the boys sides. Great leader, great coach, outstanding person for players to be around. If you answer the question "who is your kids coach?", all you say in Georgia is Nuno and everyone knows who you are talking about just as did you in your response. That says it all.
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 8, 2020 20:49:15 GMT -5
The smaller clubs probably communicate better and more personally. Doug and Ambush do a great job at telling the parents what's going on and what to expect. Obviously if your child progresses to higher levels there's a point you might have to leave to move up to higher levels, but starting out there's nothing wrong with the tlc the small club gives. This is dead on. It's unfortunate that this is the case, but it's accurate.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 8, 2020 22:13:14 GMT -5
The smaller clubs probably communicate better and more personally. Doug and Ambush do a great job at telling the parents what's going on and what to expect. Obviously if your child progresses to higher levels there's a point you might have to leave to move up to higher levels, but starting out there's nothing wrong with the tlc the small club gives. This is dead on. It's unfortunate that this is the case, but it's accurate. We had very poor communication at a small club and much better at the big club. Still there is much to be desired with regards to communication.
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 9, 2020 6:50:30 GMT -5
Communication is key. I am not sure any clubs do it well but after being at four of the big clubs with our two different daughters and 16 total seasons between the two my vote is for UFA. With IM you at least feel comfortable taking a proplem to him and that he will hear your concern (IMO). With other clubs we didnt even get to know the DOC because they were no where to be found and didnt try and communicate or get to know the "customers".
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Post by Keeper on Jun 9, 2020 11:31:52 GMT -5
My experience with big clubs is that Mirza, Tavani, & Vince Hayes have been great leadership at AFU. Open to discussion and talking about problems, tons of weekly and sometimes daily communication as well.
On the other hand we never had that at gsa/dacula. Both were a hot mess of crazy. Unless you’re on the top team or play for another club you’d never see or here from Campbell, Judson, Drew or Nuno. You wanna know when we met Campbell? When he tried to recruit us from AFUs and he had no idea we were at gsa beforehand.
On a smaller club note, Kenny Costello at Steamers was great. He’s definitely a small club guy and wants to do it all so things do fall through the cracks at times but you can tell he cares and he’s trying. Always visible at the field, always working with the Rec kids and trying to bring new people into the club to help rebuild it after the old DOC wrecked it.
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Post by DOOM on Jun 9, 2020 11:38:18 GMT -5
What about Nuno at GSA? I have heard he is a really good coach and develops players. I have not heard anything about him as a Director (per the GSA site he is the Director of Player Development / Boys Director). Drew is the Executive Director, and Campbell is the Technical Director / Girls Director (per the GSA website). Campbell is the Man on the girls side....he is Don Corleone of girls soccer.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 11:45:11 GMT -5
Campbell is the Man on the girls side....he is Don Corleone of girls soccer. I've heard similar about this coach from elsewhere.
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Post by cleansheet on Jun 9, 2020 12:18:49 GMT -5
Communication is key. I am not sure any clubs do it well but after being at four of the big clubs with our two different daughters and 16 total seasons between the two my vote is for UFA. With IM you at least feel comfortable taking a proplem to him and that he will hear your concern (IMO). With other clubs we didnt even get to know the DOC because they were no where to be found and didnt try and communicate or get to know the "customers". Great communication: UFA and Ambush Poor communication: NTH Terrible communication: CF
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 9, 2020 14:07:19 GMT -5
Communication is key. I am not sure any clubs do it well but after being at four of the big clubs with our two different daughters and 16 total seasons between the two my vote is for UFA. With IM you at least feel comfortable taking a proplem to him and that he will hear your concern (IMO). With other clubs we didnt even get to know the DOC because they were no where to be found and didnt try and communicate or get to know the "customers". Great communication: UFA and Ambush Poor communication: NTH Terrible communication: CF I am not sure that Concorde even knows that communication is. At the club level, Concorde sent an email in March that play was being suspended. The next communication from Concorde was sign up for tryouts. The final communication was that tryouts were cancelled. Very hard to get anything out of Greg or Ken without finding them at the field and asking directly.
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 9, 2020 15:06:22 GMT -5
Great communication: UFA and Ambush Poor communication: NTH Terrible communication: CF I am not sure that Concorde even knows that communication is. At the club level, Concorde sent an email in March that play was being suspended. The next communication from Concorde was sign up for tryouts. The final communication was that tryouts were cancelled. Very hard to get anything out of Greg or Ken without finding them at the field and asking directly. You know why they don't communicate? Because they don't have to. The rosters say it all. Agree on Ambush but generally the higher the demand for a club the worse the communication.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 9, 2020 15:26:40 GMT -5
I am not sure that Concorde even knows that communication is. At the club level, Concorde sent an email in March that play was being suspended. The next communication from Concorde was sign up for tryouts. The final communication was that tryouts were cancelled. Very hard to get anything out of Greg or Ken without finding them at the field and asking directly. You know why they don't communicate? Because they don't have to. The rosters say it all. Agree on Ambush but generally the higher the demand for a club the worse the communication. That is certainly what Greg and Ken think and will tell people. They believe that everyone is there because of the Concorde name. They don’t realize how many people play there because it is the closest big club. That arrogance is what cost them Concorde North and Concorde South. The lack of communication is what allowed tophat to make the announcement that Concorde lost girls DA several years ago. They also think that the tophat girls came to Concorde this year because it is Concorde instead of it being the closest ECNL club to the Buckhead girls. In a post covid world, concorde’s lack of communication will cost the club.
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Post by rudy on Jun 9, 2020 16:01:07 GMT -5
AFU was a cluster... kid was recruited there for a top team. Completely not what we were told. Leaving was best decision ever! No Leadership IMO.
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 9, 2020 16:15:15 GMT -5
AFU was a cluster... kid was recruited there for a top team. Completely not what we were told. Leaving was best decision ever! No Leadership IMO. I would agree with that. Same thing happened to my daughter. Left after they didnt keep their word as well.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 9, 2020 16:36:19 GMT -5
You know why they don't communicate? Because they don't have to. The rosters say it all. Agree on Ambush but generally the higher the demand for a club the worse the communication. That is certainly what Greg and Ken think and will tell people. They believe that everyone is there because of the Concorde name. They don’t realize how many people play there because it is the closest big club. That arrogance is what cost them Concorde North and Concorde South. The lack of communication is what allowed tophat to make the announcement that Concorde lost girls DA several years ago. They also think that the tophat girls came to Concorde this year because it is Concorde instead of it being the closest ECNL club to the Buckhead girls. In a post covid world, concorde’s lack of communication will cost the club. What happened to Concorde North & South? We were at Concorde Central a few years ago but I haven't kept up with their other branches much since leaving.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 9, 2020 17:05:53 GMT -5
That is certainly what Greg and Ken think and will tell people. They believe that everyone is there because of the Concorde name. They don’t realize how many people play there because it is the closest big club. That arrogance is what cost them Concorde North and Concorde South. The lack of communication is what allowed tophat to make the announcement that Concorde lost girls DA several years ago. They also think that the tophat girls came to Concorde this year because it is Concorde instead of it being the closest ECNL club to the Buckhead girls. In a post covid world, concorde’s lack of communication will cost the club. What happened to Concorde North & South? We were at Concorde Central a few years ago but I haven't kept up with their other branches much since leaving. Director at North left along with a lot of teams and started NTH Milton. South director left and program fell apart and now no longer exists.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 9, 2020 17:46:18 GMT -5
AFU was a cluster... kid was recruited there for a top team. Completely not what we were told. Leaving was best decision ever! No Leadership IMO. Just curious when was this? During the old Hoover days? This is about to be year 3 for us and it’s been great on both boys and girls side.
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 9, 2020 18:57:32 GMT -5
AFU was a cluster... kid was recruited there for a top team. Completely not what we were told. Leaving was best decision ever! No Leadership IMO. Just curious when was this? During the old Hoover days? This is about to be year 3 for us and it’s been great on both boys and girls side. For us it was during the Hoover days.
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Post by gkparent on Jun 9, 2020 19:21:48 GMT -5
We’ve had a very different experience at CF than others on this thread. I personally think the 3 message referenced during COVID was about all that could be sent. No one could know what to expect or how to proceed. Information was sent at the club level as decisions were able to be made. On a more “local” level, our coach hosted zoom calls with the players to catch up and keep everyone motivated with trainings each could do at home. I’ve also been a TM and had no contact with director levels but I can’t think of a reason I’d need to. I’ve had sufficient access to the person in charge of the league we play in, office staff with questions about registrations and tournaments, and our coaches.
We also played at a smaller club mentioned here, and we felt more like just a number there than at CF. But maybe I should mention we are on the boys side. Girls teams seem to be having the most difficulty across the board the past few months.
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Post by atlutd17 on Jun 9, 2020 19:46:30 GMT -5
What happened to Concorde North & South? We were at Concorde Central a few years ago but I haven't kept up with their other branches much since leaving. Director at North left along with a lot of teams and started NTH Milton. South director left and program fell apart and now no longer exists. Director at South took teams and coaches to AFC.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 9, 2020 19:56:38 GMT -5
I have never had any communication issues at UFA. All the Directors are easy to reach and talk to.
I'm sure not everyones experiences will be the same at each one of their clubs.
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