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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:31:30 GMT -5
I have no clue on how that sccl stuff will work out. Not your problem anymore the way I see it. Im inclined to believe you're the dad I mentioned before. Good luck at All-In
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:33:25 GMT -5
Good Riddance -- we left the club years ago because of him and him alone. I didn't even realize all-in still existed. Enjoy it -- he just burnt bridges for life All In has burned a lot of bridges with a lot of clubs. Very low level teams, that's why no one even realizes they still exist
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:35:24 GMT -5
Sounds like a death-knell for the girls program at UFA Norcross? I guess either no one had signed the 2020-21 contracts for UFA or UFA let everyone out of the contracts? Is this a new club-based league of NL Piedmont? Or did GA Soccer just promote teams who were not in GA Soccer last year ahead of teams that were in GA Soccer? I would expect either Brookwood or Forsyth teams will be promoted to SCCL. None of those girls have signed, so they don't have to be released. I know an '05 parent and they're pissed. It's not a death-knell for the girls program there but it's obviously a setback. IMO, Sergio has been eyeing his departure ever since RS and DG left last summer and he wasn't promoted to Director. Yes, he wanted the DOC position but it wasn't given to him. So he's been unhappy and selling himself since.
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:38:43 GMT -5
Sergio taking DOC at All In and is McKain taking a lesser role? First Roberto, next Guti and Tom, now Sergio all gone from UFA Norcross. I heard he's not taking over yet. McKain will still run things for now, eventually Sergio will take over. Roberto & Guti offers can't even be put at the same level as this
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 9, 2020 19:42:24 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits. An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are? As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place." Pissed about the situation - Sugar Hill is not close, he wasn't the '05 coach last year and this parent has another kid still at UFA that's not going anywhere. So he felt pressured to leave?
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:45:39 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits. An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are? As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place." Correct. All teams had signed and registered except his team. When he was asked he said he had no idea why
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 9, 2020 20:45:07 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits. An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are? As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place." Correct. All teams had signed and registered except his team. When he was asked he said he had no idea why |not a fan of SM? why?|
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Post by soccerallstar on Jun 9, 2020 20:47:20 GMT -5
Pissed about the situation - Sugar Hill is not close, he wasn't the '05 coach last year and this parent has another kid still at UFA that's not going anywhere. So he felt pressured to leave? Parents were told that everybody was leaving so they felt they had no other option as they were told Norcross wouldn’t have a team. Which it wasn’t true, various different things were said to different parents and not all of them true. So they did feel pressured as they were being told there would be no team.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 9, 2020 20:48:59 GMT -5
So he felt pressured to leave? Parents were told that everybody was leaving so they felt they had no other option as they were told Norcross wouldn’t have a team. Which it wasn’t true, various different things were said to different parents and not all of them true. That's a shame. I heard not all kids went there, some to other clubs, but i guess if you're told a team is not getting fielded what are you supposed to do
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 21:05:58 GMT -5
Correct. All teams had signed and registered except his team. When he was asked he said he had no idea why |not a fan of SM? why?| Im not faulting him for leaving UFA, he wasn't going anywhere anymore there, he had definitely hit his plateau. However the way that he did it says a lot about what kind of person he is, of course MM is no angel either, so maybe it will be a match made in heaven.
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Post by coffee on Jun 9, 2020 21:24:59 GMT -5
Think about it. There has to be something for a parent to sign. For that to happen the coach has to submit the player for their team. If the parents had started receiving emails with links to contracts those players would be locked to UFA Norcross. If you intend to take a team with you, you definitely don’t want them under contracts. Mystery solved.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 9, 2020 21:41:07 GMT -5
Pissed about the situation - Sugar Hill is not close, he wasn't the '05 coach last year and this parent has another kid still at UFA that's not going anywhere. So he felt pressured to leave? If you're referring to the parent, it's actually a mom but they have not made a decision. They were one of the last to be approached about the move because everyone knew how tied-in they were to UFA. They're still waiting for the dust to settle. If you're referring to SM, I don't know.
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Post by ursu22 on Jun 9, 2020 21:44:10 GMT -5
None of those girls have signed, so they don't have to be released. I know an '05 parent and they're pissed. It's not a death-knell for the girls program there but it's obviously a setback. IMO, Sergio has been eyeing his departure ever since RS and DG left last summer and he wasn't promoted to Director. Yes, he wanted the DOC position but it wasn't given to him. So he's been unhappy and selling himself since.
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Post by SoccerMom on Jun 9, 2020 21:44:29 GMT -5
So he felt pressured to leave? If you're referring to the parent, it's actually a mom but they have not made a decision. They were one of the last to be approached about the move because everyone knew how tied-in they were to UFA. They're still waiting for the dust to settle. If you're referring to SM, I don't know. I was referring to the parent/kid. I know why SM left
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Post by ursu22 on Jun 9, 2020 21:49:46 GMT -5
None of those girls have signed, so they don't have to be released. I know an '05 parent and they're pissed. It's not a death-knell for the girls program there but it's obviously a setback. IMO, Sergio has been eyeing his departure ever since RS and DG left last summer and he wasn't promoted to Director. Yes, he wanted the DOC position but it wasn't given to him. So he's been unhappy and selling himself since.
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Post by messindreams on Jun 9, 2020 21:51:49 GMT -5
Hmmmm... new definition of burning bridges. Sorry if I am wrong but didn’t Honeybadger recruit everyone under the sun to join UFAN 05G’s team? Didn’t they recruit DA and ECNL players for next season?
Can this team stick together and talk to the club rather than risking going to a club that doesn’t have a history of sending kids to colleges? Next couple of years are critical for those kids who want to play college.
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Post by Keeper on Jun 9, 2020 21:54:03 GMT -5
Hmmmm... new definition of burning bridges. Sorry if I am wrong but didn’t Honeybadger recruit everyone under the sun to join 05G team? Didn’t they recruit a DA and an ECNL players? Can this team stick together and talk to the club rather than risking going to a club that doesn’t have a history of sending kids to colleges? Next couple of years are critical for those kids who want to play college. From what a bunch of us are hearing is no sounds like that 05 team is being broken up already.
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 21:59:09 GMT -5
Hmmmm... new definition of burning bridges. Sorry if I am wrong but didn’t Honeybadger recruit everyone under the sun to join UFAN 05G’s team? Didn’t they recruit DA and ECNL players for next season? Can this team stick together and talk to the club rather than risking going to a club that doesn’t have a history of sending kids to colleges? Next couple of years are critical for those kids who want to play college. Honeybadger has been selling Sergio as God's gift to soccer for the past few weeks. They knew they were leaving already. And yes, that bridge was blown with C4. It's too late for any talks, especially when you were deceitful
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 22:01:42 GMT -5
Hmmmm... new definition of burning bridges. Sorry if I am wrong but didn’t Honeybadger recruit everyone under the sun to join 05G team? Didn’t they recruit a DA and an ECNL players? Can this team stick together and talk to the club rather than risking going to a club that doesn’t have a history of sending kids to colleges? Next couple of years are critical for those kids who want to play college. From what a bunch of us are hearing is no sounds like that 05 team is being broken up already. And if it doesn't work out for them, SM will move on. How many of his 03s will graduate next year?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 9, 2020 22:08:25 GMT -5
From what a bunch of us are hearing is no sounds like that 05 team is being broken up already. And if it doesn't work out for them, SM will move on. How many of his 03s will graduate next year? This is something I was wondering to myself - why make this big move to a low-level club with a team that has only 1 or 2 seasons left and an '05 team that you haven't coached before? The lack of connection with that '05 team could mean they don't all go with him. Plus when he had a chance to coach that team two years ago, he didn't think they were good enough so he passed on them. They've added several new players since then but there are still several from that team he rejected.
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Post by messindreams on Jun 9, 2020 23:37:20 GMT -5
What a hot mess. I feel terrible for those 03's that accomplished great things and 05's who were finally coming together. I wish Sergio would have done this move earlier, this feels deceitful and wrong at so many levels.
I wish all these girls the best and hopefully they will play great soccer wherever they land and have fun.
Sergio, if you are reading this, wtf? did you think about those kids who believed in you? Is this move for you or them?
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Post by mistercalcio on Jun 9, 2020 23:42:06 GMT -5
This entire thread and the background for it seems absolutely lol-worthy. I guess it is true what they say, “Honey Badgers DGAF...” (if you don’t know the acronym, it begins “don’t give a...”).
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Post by ultimatedad on Jun 10, 2020 4:59:46 GMT -5
Good for the girls! Get to play higher level soccer in a league that is known and recognized by college coaches.
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 10, 2020 9:06:42 GMT -5
I’ve listened to this for a while . While ODP logo guy trashed me through here ( sounds like a DOC who’s ticked to me) I’m going to give the facts . 1. He rips SM for leaving “ the way he did”. One question I’d like ODP logo boy to answer, since he seems to know every coach in Atlanta intimately. Do you know how many years Sergio was at Norcross while turning down other offers ? ( If not I’ll kindly come back on my next post and tell you and everyone else . 2. Question 2 for ODP logo boy: The DOC at Norcross. How many clubs has he been to in the past 5 years ?? 3. Final question for ODP logo boy: which person , SM or our DOC has shown more loyalty to a club? ? SM left for a promotion. Would any of the self righteous parents ripping SM turn down a promotion at work ?? Hypocrites. 4. Now , the reason I think ODP logo boy is a DOC because he sure knows a lot about me personally and my time at DSC and AFU. Either that or ODP logo boy is the biggest club hopping parent in the world and surely doesn’t have the moral authority to preach about me. Do it to my face since you are hinting that you know me. I’ll even buy the drinks . 5. DSC truth: We loved DSC. We loved my kids coach , Jeff T. and John Magee and Jessica Beasley and I loved the Hedley’s, both father and son. My 8 year old daughter at the time wanted to join a couple of her friends to simply play in this new league we just heard about called Super Y. The DOC at Rabbit Hill said to me:” if you leave don’t come back”. Wow, I thought what we did in the summer for our 8 year old was up to us ? I don’t recall signing a 12 month contract with DSC. Anyway that rubbed a lot of patents wrong . Several left. To show the hypocrisy of that particular DOC, another girl ( few years older and playing at the time I believe Athens A or RPL back when that was considered big time) also did Super Y at AFU. She came back with no problem because guess who her coach was ? The DOC. So, what does that tell me about club loyalty ? That particular DOC cared about top players , not my U9 kid playing on a top team . When he told us not to come back my daughter cried. She wanted to come back to DSC. So , OFP logo boy , and the other people trashing me , you know what you can do right ? Go #### yourselves. Every dang one of you trashing me would have done the same thing . 6. AFU. We went 6-2-3 in NL. They fired our coach and said we were going SCCL 2nd Tier. Now mind you , between U13 and state cup at U14 AFU tan is through 4 freakin coaches . We were starting on our 5th if we came back for U15. It was Hugo C. who I love by the way. Mirza , who I think is a great coach , told us we could decide as a team to stay NL or go SCCL. So “honeybadger “ didn’t lead a revolt or a vote . We had to vote and give it to Mirza. Mirza told us the SCCL2 votes won. That is the same thing RSC 05 just went through and no one trashed them did they ? So parents talked and team split . Of the people who wanted to stay NL, 1 left for TH, 1 went to Fowler , and the rest were trying to find a club in the general vicinity who would take the rest of us as sccl 1 IF we made the team. Now , how many of you self righteous moralists would let your daughter go through 5 coaches in 24 months , be demoted, then find 1/2 the team split ? NONE of you. The only role I played in that is our old coach Hoover told me to try Roberto Sibaja at Norcross because he could be trusted . I happened to know him a little so gave him a call. He spoke to those interested . The 5 decided to come . 7. Another question for ODP logo guy since he knows everything. How many boys players has Norcross lost since JS has been at Norcross? I’ll wait because I happen to know. 8. And does ODP logo boy realize that’s had JS not fired our 05 coach in the first place NONE of the rest of this would have happened ? The team went from 0-13-1 in fall 2018 to 6-5-3 in 2019 under Claude. Why fire him ? SM didn’t fire him JS did. And don’t say he was getting the job done . He played 1/2 the year with 4 starters out. She could be that bad a coach since he ended up at UFA Forsyth. 9. All you parents that always talk about “parent is the customer “ “clubs are loyal”, “ do whsts right got your kid” all of a sudden trash me? My kid actually quit because of the mental s^^t she went through being yanked around by AFU. She missed the first day of tryouts but thankfully one of her true friends on the team talked her into not quitting . So she joined UFA- then got screwed again by Norcross. She had seen Sergio’s 03 team play a few times and knew about the national title . She knew Renata was her new coach . She liked Renata because she met her once . She just chose Sergio. 10. Finally , I forced people to leave ? No. Our team was stunned because they heard more from JS yesterday than they had in the year we had been there . They rubbed some the wrong way. It was never said there’s no team left at Norcross. It was known that there wasn’t a 2nd team at Norcross so iain the event everyone came , obviously there wouldn’t be the numbers for a team . That’s common sense . 11. SM never forced anyone to not sign . He told everyone over a few day period because he had 36 girls to contact , plus his job promotion to deal with ( any of you would talk to an employer wanted to promote you and give you more money ). So some knew at different times . The only thing he said to us is there is a Zoom meeting wednesday night and Ill let everyone hear what I’ve been offered at All In . You guys are welcome to join me but I understand if you choose to stay . Sign with Norcross if you choose to stay . THAT’s why his 05/03’s haven’t signed yet . They just want to hear. Just patents talking to parents it’s my impression that 15 were coming , 1 had quit soccer , and 2 were up in the air. Again , no different than what RSC went through. And there is never a perfect time to leave . And SM actually had the decency to tell us whdt is up BEFORE anyone signed so we can make that decision . 12. And for the record , for ODP logo boy , the NL deal is already done my friend . And you wonder if we qualify ? Considering girls on this team finished 4th in sccl 1(according to you obviously a better league ), many came from NL where we went 6-2-3, and we added 1 ECNL player ( she was actually retired due to the constant travel , 6 days a week of practices and other stuff ) so it wasn’t a recruitment dude. The DA player I don’t even know . But she wanted to play for SM now thst he was an 05 coach again. So to answer the question , I’m pretty sure our team will earn our place in NL. 13. Final question : how many of you know a coach who has left z club and kids followed ? All of you . How many DOC’s club hop and bring kids with them ? Most. Norcross DOC did they . Before that , he brought kids to GSA. Before that he brought kids to TH and before that he brought kids to AFU. See a pattern ? Pardon all the typos but I’m doing this on a phone and I have things to do . Just wanted to set the record straight . So , I’m supposed to yank my daughter around and stay loyal to a club when DOCs and coaches bolt all the time for better positions ? Any of you who have an issue with anything I’ve said are childish . My kid briefly quit because of being yanked around by a club .
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 10, 2020 9:41:26 GMT -5
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 10, 2020 9:45:18 GMT -5
Just replying to lies.
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 10, 2020 9:50:04 GMT -5
And replying to a-holes trashing me for doing what everyone preaches on here - do what my kid wants to do. Compare that to the same DOCs and coaches who everyone on here says will promise their kids something and then drop her the second a better players comes over.
Yeah , I’m pissed. The same DOC at Norcross was at AFU when the Super Y thing went down and we came there because we were turned away at DSC. Man , I sure don’t remember him complaining when kids in about 3 age groups stayed at AFU after SY was over.
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 10, 2020 10:05:47 GMT -5
Honeybadger well said on a number of your points. You can never fault anyone for trying to better themselves. It is never going to be easy and you can never make all the people happy when something like this happens. We have known SM for a number of years (my middle daughter played super y for him 8 or 9 years ago now, and our 05 has guested for him on several occassions) and have always known him to be an honorable decent guy (not to mention a great coach). He has always greeted my daughters and ask how they were doing no matter the occassion and gave them encouragement to continue working hard on their soccer journey. I can say other coaches they have had at times havent been that decent. Obviously since I know SM it was a suprise that he moved but as you said anyone who faults him for wanting to better himself is hypocritical because thats what all of us want. The only thing you can do is wish him luck!!!
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Post by rudy on Jun 10, 2020 10:18:32 GMT -5
AFU again...hmmm.
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 10, 2020 10:22:19 GMT -5
The AFU comment was mentioned by because ODP logo boy trashed me and how that went down over there .
Rudy , you’re still offsides
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