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Post by honeybadger on Jun 9, 2020 13:47:58 GMT -5
He will be running All-IN. The 03 and 05 parents took a vote and decided to follow him to All-In and join the NL this fall.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 9, 2020 14:07:28 GMT -5
whoa.. didn't see that coming.
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 9, 2020 14:08:34 GMT -5
He will be running All-IN. The 03 and 05 parents took a vote and decided to follow him to All-In and join the NL this fall. How are the teams leaving if they had already signed with UFA? |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Jun 9, 2020 14:13:14 GMT -5
And will UFA Forsyth bump the SCCL-P teams up a level or leave them as is. With recruiting over now and player decisions made based on projected teams this leaves quite a ripple effect...
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Post by honeybadger on Jun 9, 2020 14:22:49 GMT -5
I have no clue on how that sccl stuff will work out.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 14:33:20 GMT -5
Sounds like a death-knell for the girls program at UFA Norcross?
I guess either no one had signed the 2020-21 contracts for UFA or UFA let everyone out of the contracts?
Is this a new club-based league of NL Piedmont? Or did GA Soccer just promote teams who were not in GA Soccer last year ahead of teams that were in GA Soccer?
I would expect either Brookwood or Forsyth teams will be promoted to SCCL.
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Post by ultimatedad on Jun 9, 2020 14:41:41 GMT -5
Bring back the Fury! Had great teams back then.
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Post by baller84 on Jun 9, 2020 15:00:22 GMT -5
Sounds like a death-knell for the girls program at UFA Norcross? I guess either no one had signed the 2020-21 contracts for UFA or UFA let everyone out of the contracts? Is this a new club-based league of NL Piedmont? Or did GA Soccer just promote teams who were not in GA Soccer last year ahead of teams that were in GA Soccer? I would expect either Brookwood or Forsyth teams will be promoted to SCCL. Incentive? Was this a UFA/coach issue, or did the teams prefer to play in NL for better competition? Given the state of Georgia Soccer, there is no doubt they would bump any Classic or Athena to take back solid SCCL teams and put them in NL. Two ways to look at it: 1) put the best teams where they belong no matter who it is, or, 2) stay loyal to your own league's teams no matter what. Can only do both by coincidence. And as for promoting other teams to SCCL-C is one thing if they're worthy, but if not, do you water down the competition? |
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Post by soccerballsforus on Jun 9, 2020 15:04:02 GMT -5
Good Riddance -- we left the club years ago because of him and him alone.
I didn't even realize all-in still existed.
Enjoy it -- he just burnt bridges for life
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 9, 2020 15:14:26 GMT -5
Sounds like a death-knell for the girls program at UFA Norcross? I guess either no one had signed the 2020-21 contracts for UFA or UFA let everyone out of the contracts? Is this a new club-based league of NL Piedmont? Or did GA Soccer just promote teams who were not in GA Soccer last year ahead of teams that were in GA Soccer? I would expect either Brookwood or Forsyth teams will be promoted to SCCL. None of those girls have signed, so they don't have to be released. I know an '05 parent and they're pissed. It's not a death-knell for the girls program there but it's obviously a setback. IMO, Sergio has been eyeing his departure ever since RS and DG left last summer and he wasn't promoted to Director. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 15:24:56 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits.
An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are?
As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place."
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 9, 2020 15:27:28 GMT -5
Sounds like a death-knell for the girls program at UFA Norcross? I guess either no one had signed the 2020-21 contracts for UFA or UFA let everyone out of the contracts? Is this a new club-based league of NL Piedmont? Or did GA Soccer just promote teams who were not in GA Soccer last year ahead of teams that were in GA Soccer? I would expect either Brookwood or Forsyth teams will be promoted to SCCL. None of those girls have signed, so they don't have to be released. I know an '05 parent and they're pissed. It's not a death-knell for the girls program there but it's obviously a setback. IMO, Sergio has been eyeing his departure ever since RS and DG left last summer and he wasn't promoted to Director. I guess you have to leave your club as a coach too to get promoted! |
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Post by greenmonkey on Jun 9, 2020 15:36:00 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits. An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are? As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place." I don’t know about the 05s but his other team for sure earned their place with their National Championship |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 9, 2020 15:48:26 GMT -5
Kind of surprised his 05s would follow him. He was not the coach of the team last year He just took over the team for upcoming season if I remember correctly.
Kids would be pissed because All-in is not convenient to Norcross and could be forced to move if majority of team is leaving because no team to play for if stayed at Norcross.
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Post by Lower90 on Jun 9, 2020 15:53:54 GMT -5
Sergio taking DOC at All In and is McKain taking a lesser role?
First Roberto, next Guti and Tom, now Sergio all gone from UFA Norcross.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 15:59:24 GMT -5
Completely unrelated. Isn't SCCL equivalent to Athena A/B in the eyes of GA Soccer? Pretty sure they had a graphic about that. DId they offer NL spots to teams that won Super-Y finals?
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Post by soccerallstar on Jun 9, 2020 16:04:53 GMT -5
Interesting that he only announced he is leaving after forming the teams and making sure they would leave with him.
Wish him the best but it is a shame the way he is leaving after all these years at the club.
And like somebody else here said, funny to see the 05 team leaving. He did not coach them this past season and most of those players only came to know who he was two weeks ago.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 16:09:36 GMT -5
Where is All-In based? Sugar Hill? That's almost all the way to UFA Forsyth.
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 9, 2020 16:16:33 GMT -5
Where is All-In based? Sugar Hill? That's almost all the way to UFA Forsyth. Thats one thing I find interesting because I know SM didnt like the drive up to Fowler at all. Maybe for a promotion its worth it. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jun 9, 2020 16:18:23 GMT -5
Did he tell them not to sign or has UFA not signed? We signed over a week ago and have already ordered 2020-21 kits. An 05 parent is pissed who isn't going to move? Or begrudgingly are? As for the NL thing, if I'm an Athena A club/coach, I start asking Georgia soccer WTF and consider going SCCL-P. Unless Piedmont has created a club-based league. But I thought NL was all about "earning your place." Pissed about the situation - Sugar Hill is not close, he wasn't the '05 coach last year and this parent has another kid still at UFA that's not going anywhere. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jun 9, 2020 16:44:07 GMT -5
Bring back the Fury! Had great teams back then. They also had a great coaching staff, great leadership and a phenomenal tournament with the Norcross Nike Cup too. Great teams, great competition, great scouting and just a fun solid tourney. I'm afraid, those days are gone now. Additionally, the girls program at Norcross has been dwindling the last few years. You have 10 age groups U9 - U18 and with this exodus, you are down 30%. In addition to losing the U16s and u18s, I think the most devastating loss is the fact that Norcross does not have a U9 age group. So next year, they'll have to build a U10 age group from scratch. How do you build an overall girls program if the base teams are non-existent. The leadership at UFA are going to have to feed money, time and effort into rebuilding the girls program or admit that the future for girls is entirely at the Fowler or Brookhaven locations... BTW: Congratulations to SM, I can't hate someone looking to increase their station in life 🙌 |
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Post by chiefsfccoach on Jun 9, 2020 17:00:50 GMT -5
Well if any of those players don’t want to drive out to burbs they are welcome to contact us at Rush Union to stay and play SCCL. We have a U19 02/03 club level and P1 team needing players. And would gladly take more 05s looking for a home as we already signed one from that 05 team.
This kind of makes since as we’ve had a lot more then the usual Norcross girls come over and accept spots this year.
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 17:11:19 GMT -5
He will be running All-IN. The 03 and 05 parents took a vote and decided to follow him to All-In and join the NL this fall. How are the teams leaving if they had already signed with UFA? They hadn't signed up yet. See Sergio had been planning this for a while and he told them not to sign up. His two teams were the only two that not a single player had registered. UFA knew what he was doing even though he was denying it. I wasn't aware that All-In had teams that qualified into NL? They're a pretty low level club. And if they did have a team in NL is Sergio coming in and stealing the spot from them? And If they didn't have a team in NL, don't you have to qualify to get into NL? So will they start at Athena and work their way or are they assuming they will take someone else's spot from GA? Are we talking the real National League? Or Piedmont League? I just hope those 03 girls don't regret their decision, especially if they want to play in college and the team doesn't get to play NL. These girls will be seniors and it would suck for them if they got stuck playing low level soccer |
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 17:27:25 GMT -5
He will be running All-IN. The 03 and 05 parents took a vote and decided to follow him to All-In and join the NL this fall. I heard 1 parent helped get all the parents to agree to leave. He in the past had helped get AFU girls to that team. Wonder if he will take responsibility if they don't play NL? 🤔 |
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Post by jkdub1 on Jun 9, 2020 17:51:56 GMT -5
How are the teams leaving if they had already signed with UFA? They hadn't signed up yet. See Sergio had been planning this for a while and he told them not to sign up. His two teams were the only two that not a single player had registered. UFA knew what he was doing even though he was denying it. I wasn't aware that All-In had teams that qualified into NL? They're a pretty low level club. And if they did have a team in NL is Sergio coming in and stealing the spot from them? And If they didn't have a team in NL, don't you have to qualify to get into NL? So will they start at Athena and work their way or are they assuming they will take someone else's spot from GA? Are we talking the real National League? Or Piedmont League? I just hope those 03 girls don't regret their decision, especially if they want to play in college and the team doesn't get to play NL. These girls will be seniors and it would suck for them if they got stuck playing low level soccer Surely they mean South Atlantic "National League"? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 9, 2020 18:44:30 GMT -5
Badger is making it sound like SM struck a deal with GA Soccer to secure NL Piedmont spots for 2 teams.
Given that Rush, Roswell and Ambush abandoned USYS and many Piedmont spots, it's not that big of a surprise.
But again, even with the 03's past accomplishments this ends the "NL Piedmont spots are earned" argument (and aren't earned politically).
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 9, 2020 19:01:17 GMT -5
They hadn't signed up yet. See Sergio had been planning this for a while and he told them not to sign up. His two teams were the only two that not a single player had registered. UFA knew what he was doing even though he was denying it. I wasn't aware that All-In had teams that qualified into NL? They're a pretty low level club. And if they did have a team in NL is Sergio coming in and stealing the spot from them? And If they didn't have a team in NL, don't you have to qualify to get into NL? So will they start at Athena and work their way or are they assuming they will take someone else's spot from GA? Are we talking the real National League? Or Piedmont League? I just hope those 03 girls don't regret their decision, especially if they want to play in college and the team doesn't get to play NL. These girls will be seniors and it would suck for them if they got stuck playing low level soccer Surely they mean South Atlantic "National League"? No. South Atlantic NPL now called South Atlantic premier league is not something that All-in are in. He is talking Piedmont League in the USYS National League platform. I think that to get into Piedmont right now is not going to be that hard. They probably were super excited to take those two teams. After all for the 05 teams Roswell left. Ambush is out (probably would have been dropped anyway). Who is better to put in there? Someone from Athena A? No way. Look at how the Athena A teams that went in did this year. Pretty poorly. The 05 Norcross team has several former NL players on it. |
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Post by dadofthree on Jun 9, 2020 19:04:08 GMT -5
If nothing else I am sure based on knowing SM that he will have the teams at all the big tourneys for the girls wanting to play in college. With this year being so in flux for colleges who missed 6 months I am sure they will get a look (maybe not where they want) from colleges that got caught short by the close down.
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Post by soccergurl on Jun 9, 2020 19:24:15 GMT -5
|SM to his boss JS, happy byeday I Quit|
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Post by insideinfo on Jun 9, 2020 19:30:25 GMT -5
And will UFA Forsyth bump the SCCL-P teams up a level or leave them as is. With recruiting over now and player decisions made based on projected teams this leaves quite a ripple effect... They will prob give those spots to the Forsyth branch |
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