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Post by hokesmyth on Jun 18, 2020 16:25:30 GMT -5
A Kentucky high school soccer player died this week after he collapsed on the field following team training drills.
St. Henry High School junior soccer player Matt Mangine died suddenly Tuesday evening.
The school put out a statement Wednesday morning:
“Our hearts are breaking, and we are beyond devastated this morning with the news that a member of the St. Henry Boys’ Soccer Team collapsed on the field during training last night and passed away,” said principal David Otte, according to the local NBC affiliate. “We extend our deepest condolences to his family and friends and we are praying for them during this very difficult time."
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jun 18, 2020 19:33:53 GMT -5
A Kentucky high school soccer player died this week after he collapsed on the field following team training drills. St. Henry High School junior soccer player Matt Mangine died suddenly Tuesday evening. The school put out a statement Wednesday morning: “Our hearts are breaking, and we are beyond devastated this morning with the news that a member of the St. Henry Boys’ Soccer Team collapsed on the field during training last night and passed away,” said principal David Otte, according to the local NBC affiliate. “We extend our deepest condolences to his family and friends and we are praying for them during this very difficult time." Hmm. Any more information about this? Its not summer hot yet, so are they suggesting this is Covid-19 related? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 18, 2020 19:35:54 GMT -5
Probably cardiac related. So sad.
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Post by atlsoccerdad on Jun 18, 2020 19:40:28 GMT -5
Probably cardiac related. So sad.  |
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Post by BubbleDad on Jun 18, 2020 22:13:45 GMT -5
Ssssoooo sad. As parents we also have to make sure that our kids are getting physicals and watch their diet. Especially when it comes to hydration.
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Post by baller84 on Jun 19, 2020 11:36:42 GMT -5
Overseas, all players must undergo a specific yearly physical by certified doctors, that includes diagnosing hidden heart conditions among other things. They will get a certificate for the year. They can not participate in any physical activity without it.
Also, all official matches require the presence of at least one certified trainer per venue. The match can not start without one. Given the polar opposite differences in liability laws (stricter here), I find it shocking that those things are not a requirement yet.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 19, 2020 14:19:59 GMT -5
Overseas, all players must undergo a specific yearly physical by certified doctors, that includes diagnosing hidden heart conditions among other things. They will get a certificate for the year. They can not participate in any physical activity without it. Also, all official matches require the presence of at least one certified trainer per venue. The match can not start without one. Given the polar opposite differences in liability laws (stricter here), I find it shocking that those things are not a requirement yet. High schools require annual physicals to participate in sports. If there are abnormal findings then they get a work up from a cardiologist. Not all heart conditions can be diagnosed even with screenings including EKG and echocardiogram. It is sad that this kid died. Who knows why he did. I said probably heart related but until the autopsy comes out (if they chose to publicize it) we won't know for sure. |
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Post by soccerspin on Jun 20, 2020 20:51:48 GMT -5
Overseas, all players must undergo a specific yearly physical by certified doctors, that includes diagnosing hidden heart conditions among other things. They will get a certificate for the year. They can not participate in any physical activity without it. Also, all official matches require the presence of at least one certified trainer per venue. The match can not start without one. Given the polar opposite differences in liability laws (stricter here), I find it shocking that those things are not a requirement yet. High schools require annual physicals to participate in sports. If there are abnormal findings then they get a work up from a cardiologist. Not all heart conditions can be diagnosed even with screenings including EKG and echocardiogram. It is sad that this kid died. Who knows why he did. I said probably heart related but until the autopsy comes out (if they chose to publicize it) we won't know for sure. True but adding an EKG to the high school physical would be a good start. It would tell you about certain heart conditions that likely wouldn’t be detected during a regular physical and you wouldn’t know about otherwise. (Especially those which could lead to sudden cardiac failure with no symptoms prior to the event) |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 20, 2020 20:57:59 GMT -5
High schools require annual physicals to participate in sports. If there are abnormal findings then they get a work up from a cardiologist. Not all heart conditions can be diagnosed even with screenings including EKG and echocardiogram. It is sad that this kid died. Who knows why he did. I said probably heart related but until the autopsy comes out (if they chose to publicize it) we won't know for sure. True but adding an EKG to the high school physical would be a good start. It would tell you about certain heart conditions that likely wouldn’t be detected during a regular physical and you wouldn’t know about otherwise. (Especially those which could lead to sudden cardiac failure with no symptoms prior to the event) Actually they have done studies on EKG as a screening test for sudden cardiac death in athletes and it has been found to be unhelpful except in Italy. There is a certain arrhythmia that happens in Italians that doesn't happen to others. Echocardiograms are more helpful in the US, but even those have been found to be of limited benefit and not helpful or practical as a screening tool. They should only be used for those that meet certain criteria. The questions on the high school forms are designed to pick up these at risk kids. Problem is that people don't answer them honestly. |
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Post by soccerspin on Jun 22, 2020 22:14:16 GMT -5
True but adding an EKG to the high school physical would be a good start. It would tell you about certain heart conditions that likely wouldn’t be detected during a regular physical and you wouldn’t know about otherwise. (Especially those which could lead to sudden cardiac failure with no symptoms prior to the event) Actually they have done studies on EKG as a screening test for sudden cardiac death in athletes and it has been found to be unhelpful except in Italy. There is a certain arrhythmia that happens in Italians that doesn't happen to others. Echocardiograms are more helpful in the US, but even those have been found to be of limited benefit and not helpful or practical as a screening tool. They should only be used for those that meet certain criteria. The questions on the high school forms are designed to pick up these at risk kids. Problem is that people don't answer them honestly. Interesting... had not heard that. I’d read stories of EKGs being done and picking up on conditions such as WPW which for the vast majority of people is not a problem and doesn’t show symptoms most times. However, in very rare cases it can lead to sudden death - especially in young adults. So when it is picked up then additional testing is done to see if it belongs to that rare subgroup and if so, it can then (hopefully) be fixed. That said, maybe this situation is still not common enough to make sense for widespread testing. I just figured it’s noninvasive and easy enough to do so why not... |
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