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Post by allthingsoccer on Jul 10, 2020 19:33:23 GMT -5
8 academy players in the media resources for tomorrow's match against Tampa Bay Rowdies, including 5 who have yet to make their pro debut. Some clue as to who may get a chance in USL in the next few weeks
Well done boys. Hope to see more and more get the opportunity.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 10, 2020 20:27:51 GMT -5
Hence why signing with Atlanta united 2 is a death sentence. Imagine being a young pro trying to make it and getting benched for a 16 year old.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 11, 2020 8:11:07 GMT -5
Hence why signing with Atlanta united 2 is a death sentence. Imagine being a young pro trying to make it and getting benched for a 16 year old. But this happens even in the first teams in Europe...adults getting benched for teenagers. We need these B teams to help develop people for the first team. No everyone is going to be able to make the first team.
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Post by bogan on Jul 11, 2020 8:16:10 GMT -5
Hence why signing with Atlanta united 2 is a death sentence. Imagine being a young pro trying to make it and getting benched for a 16 year old. But this happens even in the first teams in Europe...adults getting benched for teenagers. We need these B teams to help develop people for the first team. No everyone is going to be able to make the first team. I would feel better about it (Atl Utd 2) if I saw more players getting called up and playing meaningful minutes on the first team.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 11, 2020 14:16:02 GMT -5
USL teams will become former u19 acadmey teams.
Wonder if some of these kids will end up playing ecnl also.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 12, 2020 6:06:23 GMT -5
Homegrown Jackson Conway Goal...
For those who may not be aware, this isn't his first time scoring like this. Back in his Academy days...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 12, 2020 7:12:52 GMT -5
And in another usl game - nice ball by Carleton
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Post by rifle on Jul 12, 2020 8:16:34 GMT -5
Would love to see Jackson get first team opportunity. Don’t care where just a door so he can smash it.
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Post by rifle on Jul 12, 2020 8:18:18 GMT -5
Hence why signing with Atlanta united 2 is a death sentence. Imagine being a young pro trying to make it and getting benched for a 16 year old. I am fine with young pros getting benched when they’re out-performed in training.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 13, 2020 8:30:44 GMT -5
Hence why signing with Atlanta united 2 is a death sentence. Imagine being a young pro trying to make it and getting benched for a 16 year old. I am fine with young pros getting benched when they’re out-performed in training. True - but from interviews with AU's academy director, it seems he is heavily involved in this decision on who suits up vs the head coach. question -- and I know I can tend to be negative -- but after watching Bello play for 90, It always seems like he doesn't track back to defend. Is that what is expected of him when playing that position and asked to get forward so much?
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Post by flix on Jul 13, 2020 9:19:52 GMT -5
This is my opinion on Bello, with the limited soccer knowledge I have, I watched the match but I haven’t seen him play first team too much because he has been injured. I have seen a few AU2 matches and I have never been too impressed. He did a lot of walking in those matches, same as Mo Adams, and I thought if he doesn’t get the ball running into space, he’s not that effective. Doesn’t dribble in 1v1 situations and just passes the ball off. He will obviously have to track back more with the first team.
However, I noticed the same thing with some other wingbacks, a la Marcelo. People complain he doesn’t track back also. But I think that position requires you to attack more than defend at times. These players aren’t robots so maybe they pick and choose when to turn it on or off. To some degree you have to have faith your teammates will do their job and defend so you don’t have to run up and back like a pinball. If your teammates don’t lose the ball, there’s no need to have to make a 40-50 yard recovery run. That’s how the Red Bull’s scored, Atlanta loses the ball in the most dangerous part of the pitch, two passes and the striker is played in with a ball greatly helped by the high line of the back two it appeared because Bello was high and wide to provide width. The squad will get better. A lot of things have happened and I was glad just to see the boys out there playing. I thought they looked good for the circumstances.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 13, 2020 9:28:28 GMT -5
This is my opinion on Bello, with the limited soccer knowledge I have, I watched the match but I haven’t seen him play first team too much because he has been injured. I have seen a few AU2 matches and I have never been too impressed. He did a lot of walking in those matches, same as Mo Adams, and I thought if he doesn’t get the ball running into space, he’s not that effective. Doesn’t dribble in 1v1 situations and just passes the ball off. He will obviously have to track back more with the first team. However, I noticed the same thing with some other wingbacks, a la Marcelo. People complain he doesn’t track back also. But I think that position requires you to attack more than defend at times. These players aren’t robots so maybe they pick and choose when to turn it on or off. To some degree you have to have faith your teammates will do their job and defend so you don’t have to run up and back like a pinball. If your teammates don’t lose the ball, there’s no need to have to make a 40-50 yard recovery run. That’s how the Red Bull’s scored, Atlanta loses the ball in the most dangerous part of the pitch, two passes and the striker is played in with a ball greatly helped by the high line of the back two it appeared because Bello was high and wide to provide width. The squad will get better. A lot of things have happened and I was glad just to see the boys out there playing. I thought they looked good for the circumstances. Atlanta was playing a 3 man back line--Escobar, Robinson, and Meza. It appeared to me that the 3 got shifted too far to the defensive right (all 3 were on the right side of the field). Bello was playing an outside mid role, same thing played by Lennon. I am not a big fan of de Boer's preferred 3-4-3. We always seem to be outnumbered in the center mid-field and did not have the number of people inside to break the lines. Red Bulls appeared content with letting everything go wide and defending the crosses with no true striker to go up and head the ball in. Castro had 2 good chances to score. Barco had one on a cross by Pity and of course, Bello off the post.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jul 13, 2020 10:15:54 GMT -5
I prefer 4 in the back and you just are constantly shifting the back line and letting the outside backs get forward on their attacking side. Guzan was the man of the match, the red bulls keeper wasn't very impressive but made that one great save in the final seconds. It just seemed to see a lot of times where red bulls had numbers going forward and the outside middies were not getting back or just were jogging.
Bello does get himself in good position offensively though - he just seems to be able to sneak up there all day unmarked.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 14, 2020 9:03:02 GMT -5
The Original Homegrown - AC
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 14, 2020 9:09:30 GMT -5
I am fine with young pros getting benched when they’re out-performed in training. True - but from interviews with AU's academy director, it seems he is heavily involved in this decision on who suits up vs the head coach. question -- and I know I can tend to be negative -- but after watching Bello play for 90, It always seems like he doesn't track back to defend. Is that what is expected of him when playing that position and asked to get forward so much? You are absolutely correct, Bello did not do a good job of tracking back, even though he wasn't actually playing in the back but more as a wing-back. I believe this has been GB's Achilles heel, since before he joined the AU Academy and while he was with Georgia United. His penchant to worry more about the final third in lieu of the initial third. He definitely needs to focus on playing the primary role of defensive left-back/full-back first. We know what he's capable of up top. Finally, he has to have someone on the left with him, so they play off of each other and can trust that when he does go up, that person works with him to ensure the back is covered and they can play off of each other...
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Post by diceshooter on Jul 14, 2020 15:14:43 GMT -5
True - but from interviews with AU's academy director, it seems he is heavily involved in this decision on who suits up vs the head coach. question -- and I know I can tend to be negative -- but after watching Bello play for 90, It always seems like he doesn't track back to defend. Is that what is expected of him when playing that position and asked to get forward so much? You are absolutely correct, Bello did not do a good job of tracking back, even though he wasn't actually playing in the back but more as a wing-back. I believe this has been GB's Achilles heel, since before he joined the AU Academy and while he was with Georgia United. His penchant to worry more about the final third in lieu of the initial third. He definitely needs to focus on playing the primary role of defensive left-back/full-back first. We know what he's capable of up top. Finally, he has to have someone on the left with him, so they play off of each other and can trust that when he does go up, that person works with him to ensure the back is covered and they can play off of each other...FG, I may be wrong but Bello never played for Georgia United. He went straight from Ambush to Atlanta United. Additionally, he did not play left back before Atlanta United. He was an attacking midfielder, and was moved to left back by the USYNT. I specifically, remember the NTC where they played him there before the first '02 camp.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 14, 2020 16:14:45 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct, Bello did not do a good job of tracking back, even though he wasn't actually playing in the back but more as a wing-back. I believe this has been GB's Achilles heel, since before he joined the AU Academy and while he was with Georgia United. His penchant to worry more about the final third in lieu of the initial third. He definitely needs to focus on playing the primary role of defensive left-back/full-back first. We know what he's capable of up top. Finally, he has to have someone on the left with him, so they play off of each other and can trust that when he does go up, that person works with him to ensure the back is covered and they can play off of each other...FG, I may be wrong but Bello never played for Georgia United. He went straight from Ambush to Atlanta United. Additionally, he did not play left back before Atlanta United. He was an attacking midfielder, and was moved to left back by the USYNT. I specifically, remember the NTC where they played him there before the first '02 camp. Nope, you are absolutely correct. I got my facts mixed up with another one of his cohorts. I am going to have to pay penance to Coach Nadine since I know she'll bring this up when I see her 🙌 p.s. Nadine trained and still trains GB from time to time...
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Post by soccerguru on Jul 15, 2020 12:50:16 GMT -5
been watching Bello play since he was U-10, he was always stellar at offense, never showed much interest in playing defense.
He can attack 1v1 and is very good on the ball. How many goals did Deedson score on him when they played against AU?
Love the kid, he is just not a defensive player.
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