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Post by 04gparent on Jul 24, 2020 11:01:54 GMT -5
Asking for a friend. What do you typically learn from your child's preseason tourney games? I hope preseason tourneys go without a hitch, but ultimately what do the results indicate especially with such a long layoff.
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Post by Shesakeeper on Jul 24, 2020 11:26:36 GMT -5
I'm wondering how many of the preseason tournaments will even happen, my son's academy team was signed up for the Rysa tournament which we just were informed this morning was canceled. We are struggling to find other options the same weekend. I know our coach has always said that the preseason tournament gives him an idea of what things the team most needs to work on and also in the past has been when he may experiment with moving players in and out of different positions to see what works best for the group. I have a feeling this season is going to be very different though!
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Post by atlutd17 on Jul 24, 2020 11:28:41 GMT -5
Asking for a friend. What do you typically learn from your child's preseason tourney games? I hope preseason tourneys go without a hitch, but ultimately what do the results indicate especially with such a long layoff. The most important thing will be to get back on the field competing, for the kids to start playing and gave fun again, and that goes for all levels. When you see what's happened to a model pro team like Atlanta United, how can you be remotely critical to any youth team or coach? Most youth teams and players will have a long way to go and a ton of ground to cover just to get back where they were. But for now, at least get it going and take all safety measures necessary to keep it going for their sake. Let's just be smart about it, courteous and sensible. |
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Post by allthingsoccer on Jul 24, 2020 12:34:31 GMT -5
As a coach:
It creates a good baseline on seeing how each player preforms in real game scenarios. It also provides some insight on how the team stacks against the competition. Gets players at least 3 games playing together, builds unity.
Some coaches like to see players weaknesses and strengths. (yes, it real early to tell but its a baseline)
As a parent: Gets kids out. You can see how your kid stacks up against other players on the team.
As a club: helps creating revenue
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jul 24, 2020 12:40:20 GMT -5
As a coach: It creates a good baseline on seeing how each player preforms in real game scenarios. It also provides some insight on how the team stacks against the competition. Gets players at least 3 games playing together, builds unity. Some coaches like to see players weaknesses and strengths. (yes, it real early to tell but its a baseline) As a parent: Gets kids out. You can see how your kid stacks up against other players on the team. As a club: helps creating revenue What he said, additionally, I would add that it lets the coach know who took the summer workout seriously or who goofed off. Sadly, it sets the tone for at least the early part of fall games. The coach may or may not have an idea of who/what/when/where players will play, but once they see effort on some or lack of effort on the part of others, it helps them narrow things down. So your performance may dictate if you come off the bench or start and will sometimes even help to push a player or two up an age group depending on the club you're located at... Update: sorry I forgot to mention, if I were a coach, I wouldn't be as worried about the wins/winning because I will be doing a lot of tweaking with formations and positioning. The tourneys at the end of fall are were we hope all of the good work finally comes together and rewards the players with hardware 🙌 |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jul 24, 2020 12:41:41 GMT -5
RYSA was stupid to cancel their tournaments. I hope it doesn't create a snowball effect with them. Especially since they really haven't broadcasted their reasoning or anything.
I think pre-season tournaments give a coach a look into how his team is and who to play where especially like in my son's team's case where we only brought back 6 returners from last season and the rest of the team is new players, and the fact that we also have a new coach.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 24, 2020 13:08:16 GMT -5
Results indicate nothing really. They're to get some games under the belt and as mentioned above, lets the coach see where the team is strong/weak etc.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 24, 2020 13:37:28 GMT -5
Results indicate nothing really. They're to get some games under the belt and as mentioned above, lets the coach see where the team is strong/weak etc. I agree. I would say as a parent it can help you see where your player stands relative to others on their team or in the league/ level. This year may be a lot different there though as FG's comment as to who was working over the summer is magnified big time with corona. As a team the results mean nothing, but it can give the coach ideas about what they need to work on and how new players fit into a team. |
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Post by ga3v3 on Jul 24, 2020 13:59:45 GMT -5
For select ages I’d also add that it gives the team a few games to work some things out before league matches begin for points- though I guess it doesn’t matter that much anymore without pro/rel
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Post by guest on Jul 24, 2020 20:59:11 GMT -5
We’ll be at Noonday this weekend for our season finale LAX tourney. Y’all can have the soccer parks back next week. We’ll be moving to the football fields.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jul 25, 2020 19:10:04 GMT -5
Just my opinion, but I'd think that taking part in a couple preseason tournaments, at least 2 weeks apart, would be ideal. That way you can assess players, try to correct mistakes, teach some better habits and then get to see if it sunk in at all (who has the aptitude to learn and is really coachable). It would also allow you to see if position changes after the first tourney worked.
But the tournaments have to be of relatively equal caliber competition...not easy to do. In GA we have 3 of note (CF, SSA and NTH) of which CF is the highest caliber and its first. SSA and NTH were probably about even. There's Athens, RYSA, AFC (and Impact?) Also, but with the GA Soocer split its doubtful there's high-level competition in those. The Publix Cup one seems like its just going to be for GPL or something?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 25, 2020 19:32:09 GMT -5
A few years ago UFA used to send the "top teams" to two preseason and two postseason tourneys. This was prior to DA for girls. It was nice to get in the extra games to knock the rust off and to get used to new coaches and new teammates. This started to decrease the last two seasons. It also helped, if your division was small, to get in more games. I guess maybe they stopped that due to having leagues that provided good competition and more games or maybe they bought into the DA's premise that fewer "more meaningful" games was important.
Personally I like the kids to get in more games to get back in the swing of things, but I agree that they are not too meaningful. Reminds me of preseason NFL football😁
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Post by honeybadger on Jul 25, 2020 20:01:30 GMT -5
As a coach: It creates a good baseline on seeing how each player preforms in real game scenarios. It also provides some insight on how the team stacks against the competition. Gets players at least 3 games playing together, builds unity. Some coaches like to see players weaknesses and strengths. (yes, it real early to tell but its a baseline) As a parent: Gets kids out. You can see how your kid stacks up against other players on the team. As a club: helps creating revenue What he said, additionally, I would add that it lets the coach know who took the summer workout seriously or who goofed off. Sadly, it sets the tone for at least the early part of fall games. The coach may or may not have an idea of who/what/when/where players will play, but once they see effort on some or lack of effort on the part of others, it helps them narrow things down. So your performance may dictate if you come off the bench or start and will sometimes even help to push a player or two up an age group depending on the club you're located at... Update: sorry I forgot to mention, if I were a coach, I wouldn't be as worried about the wins/winning because I will be doing a lot of tweaking with formations and positioning. The tourneys at the end of fall are were we hope all of the good work finally comes together and rewards the players with hardware 🙌 Perfectly said. |
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Post by dadofthree on Jul 25, 2020 20:50:16 GMT -5
Also once you get into the older age groups you start having to understanding your teammates game. Learning your teammates game quickly is becoming more important as all the disruption of leagues and new leagues, etc is creating turnover in players (in the past you may have played with a majority of the same players for several years). These tourneys give the players time to learn things such as when a teammate is likely looking for a give and go, when they are likely to go forward where someone must cover, who is likely to look for certain runs, etc.
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