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Post by honeybadger on Jul 25, 2020 8:16:36 GMT -5
I see this is on their site.
1. GA Gold Jeff Golston Buckhead
2. GA Navy Eddie Hernandez Buckhead Bio
3. DPL Alex Munoz Buckhead
4. SCCL Club Ria Smith Buckhead
Which is GAL and DPL?
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 25, 2020 8:35:33 GMT -5
GA is the girls academy league, which is attempting to replace DA. Their DPL is last years SCCL who moved up to DPL with last years DPL team taking the second GA L spot
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 25, 2020 9:24:37 GMT -5
What max said. Tophat put two teams in GA. They went back to their old (and current academy) naming convention of Gold being first team and Navy being second team.
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Post by collegesoccer on Jul 25, 2020 11:53:55 GMT -5
I see this is on their site. 1. GA Gold Jeff Golston Buckhead 2. GA Navy Eddie Hernandez Buckhead Bio 3. DPL Alex Munoz Buckhead 4. SCCL Club Ria Smith Buckhead Which is GAL and DPL? That’s right - to further clarify, at each age group, GA Gold is the former DA team and GA Navy is the former ECNL/DPL team. DPL is the former top SCCL team
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Post by 04gparent on Jul 25, 2020 11:55:40 GMT -5
I see this is on their site. 1. GA Gold Jeff Golston Buckhead 2. GA Navy Eddie Hernandez Buckhead Bio 3. DPL Alex Munoz Buckhead 4. SCCL Club Ria Smith Buckhead Which is GAL and DPL? WHAT! The club didn't collapse? I thought for sure they would have no players... Totally kidding... Happy to see Tophat didn't fold. If there is any luck there are will be a few cross sectional games between ECNL, GA, and Piedmont. None of them have restrictions now regarding playing other leagues/teams.
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jul 25, 2020 12:09:02 GMT -5
I suspect Tophat GA gold to in general win their divisions. I suspect Tophat Navy GA to finish near the bottom as they are the second team playing other clubs too teams. I suspect the DPL will finish middle bracket as they are third team playing other clubs 1st or 2nd teams. I suspect the SCCL teams to finish middle bracket as their top SCCL team is playing DPL
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Post by Whistledown on Jul 25, 2020 12:45:58 GMT -5
I see this is on their site. 1. GA Gold Jeff Golston Buckhead 2. GA Navy Eddie Hernandez Buckhead Bio 3. DPL Alex Munoz Buckhead 4. SCCL Club Ria Smith Buckhead Which is GAL and DPL? WHAT! The club didn't collapse? I thought for sure they would have no players... Totally kidding... Happy to see Tophat didn't fold. If there is any luck there are will be a few cross sectional games between ECNL, GA, and Piedmont. None of them have restrictions now regarding playing other leagues/teams. Tophat is playing in the CESA ECNL friendlies in August, so there's your cross sectional games. www.carolinaelitesc.com/tournaments/ecnl-preseason-friendlies
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Post by collegesoccer on Jul 25, 2020 15:31:26 GMT -5
I suspect Tophat GA gold to in general win their divisions. I suspect Tophat Navy GA to finish near the bottom as they are the second team playing other clubs too teams. I suspect the DPL will finish middle bracket as they are third team playing other clubs 1st or 2nd teams. I suspect the SCCL teams to finish middle bracket as their top SCCL team is playing DPL All reasonable, except GA Navy will likely finish in the top half of the southeast division also because the GA Southeast is not deep this first year. I think SCCL will finish higher also - likely top 3 in each age group.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 27, 2020 9:00:36 GMT -5
LOL @ Alex Munoz at TopHat. Good luck with that Hatters.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 30, 2020 16:35:33 GMT -5
I suspect Tophat GA gold to in general win their divisions. I suspect Tophat Navy GA to finish near the bottom as they are the second team playing other clubs too teams. I suspect the DPL will finish middle bracket as they are third team playing other clubs 1st or 2nd teams. I suspect the SCCL teams to finish middle bracket as their top SCCL team is playing DPL All reasonable, except GA Navy will likely finish in the top half of the southeast division also because the GA Southeast is not deep this first year. I think SCCL will finish higher also - likely top 3 in each age group. Don’t have a dog in this particular fight. So no biases. With the addition of Roswell into SCCL-C will push TopHat out of the top 3 within 05, 06 & 07 age groups... the 07’s were debatable, but after the number of TH defections within the age group solidified it...just my humble prediction.
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Post by mightydawg on Jul 30, 2020 18:12:09 GMT -5
All reasonable, except GA Navy will likely finish in the top half of the southeast division also because the GA Southeast is not deep this first year. I think SCCL will finish higher also - likely top 3 in each age group. Don’t have a dog in this particular fight. So no biases. With the addition of Roswell into SCCL-C will push TopHat out of the top 3 within 05, 06 & 07 age groups... the 07’s were debatable, but after the number of TH defections within the age group solidified it...just my humble prediction. The Roswell 07 girls are really good. I look for them to be competing for a top three finish in SCCL with Concorde and tophat (assuming it is the Milton team)
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Post by BubbleDad on Jul 30, 2020 19:43:52 GMT -5
LOL @ Alex Munoz at TopHat. Good luck with that Hatters. First ... Go Dawgs ... 2nd ... what's wrong with Alex?
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Post by BubbleDad on Jul 30, 2020 19:48:54 GMT -5
All reasonable, except GA Navy will likely finish in the top half of the southeast division also because the GA Southeast is not deep this first year. I think SCCL will finish higher also - likely top 3 in each age group. Don’t have a dog in this particular fight. So no biases. With the addition of Roswell into SCCL-C will push TopHat out of the top 3 within 05, 06 & 07 age groups... the 07’s were debatable, but after the number of TH defections within the age group solidified it...just my humble prediction. I beg your pardon on the Tophat 06G finishing outside of the top 3! It will be a dog fight, but nevertheless... a fight. Roswell has 3 girls from Tophat that are strong players so it'll be a good game.
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Post by mistergrinch on Jul 30, 2020 20:58:42 GMT -5
LOL @ Alex Munoz at TopHat. Good luck with that Hatters. First ... Go Dawgs ... 2nd ... what's wrong with Alex? There have been many threads discussing him as a coach. No need to dredge it up here again, but suffice it to say you won't hear a lot of parents singing his praises.
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Post by collegesoccer on Jul 30, 2020 21:19:12 GMT -5
Don’t have a dog in this particular fight. So no biases. With the addition of Roswell into SCCL-C will push TopHat out of the top 3 within 05, 06 & 07 age groups... the 07’s were debatable, but after the number of TH defections within the age group solidified it...just my humble prediction. I beg your pardon on the Tophat 06G finishing outside of the top 3! It will be a dog fight, but nevertheless... a fight. Roswell has 3 girls from Tophat that are strong players so it'll be a good game. TH success will have less to do with who left and who stayed and more to do with the training environment.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 30, 2020 22:25:32 GMT -5
My thoughts on how the Top 3 ultimately shake out, has much less to do with TH’s training or environment and more on the make up of those particular RSC teams.
On the girls side, I believe it’ll be one of the more interesting leagues and age ranges to keep track off this Fall. From a competitive and entertainment value proposition, it’ll be the best bang for the dollar a parent could ask for, this year especially. After speaking with a few parents of kids my dd played with, I’m in total agreement.
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Post by collegesoccer on Jul 31, 2020 6:05:35 GMT -5
My thoughts on how the Top 3 ultimately shake out, has much less to do with TH’s training or environment and more on the make up of those particular RSC teams. On the girls side, I believe it’ll be one of the more interesting leagues and age ranges to keep track off this Fall. From a competitive and entertainment value proposition, it’ll be the best bang for the dollar a parent could ask for, this year especially. After speaking with a few parents of kids my dd played with, I’m in total agreement. Totally understand. Most people don’t believe game outcomes have much to do with training environment.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jul 31, 2020 8:36:45 GMT -5
LOL @ Alex Munoz at TopHat. Good luck with that Hatters. First ... Go Dawgs ... 2nd ... what's wrong with Alex? First off, Go Dawgs back at ya. Hope we play that 10-game schedule this year they just agreed to and J. Newman leads us to quarantine greatness! Second, re: Alex - as someone pointed out above, his issues have been discussed ad nauseum in prior threads, but he's just a very immature and arrogant soccer coach. Easily the worst coach-parents relationship I've seen in club soccer. And doesn't get the kind of results you'd expect for a guy who acts like he's Tata Martino. Least approachable soccer coach I've ever been around. I've also never seen a coach rely so heavily on rondo in practices. It's a great drill, sure, but doing it at the start of every single practice made you question how much he actually planned his practices.
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Post by BubbleDad on Jul 31, 2020 9:57:32 GMT -5
I beg your pardon on the Tophat 06G finishing outside of the top 3! It will be a dog fight, but nevertheless... a fight. Roswell has 3 girls from Tophat that are strong players so it'll be a good game. TH success will have less to do with who left and who stayed and more to do with the training environment. I ABSOLUTELY agree on the training environment quality. Only time will tell. I feel more pressure this year to help my daughter prep for the season b/c of the quality of competition this upcoming season. Most games will be nail-biters.
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Post by ball2futbol on Jul 31, 2020 10:14:14 GMT -5
My thoughts on how the Top 3 ultimately shake out, has much less to do with TH’s training or environment and more on the make up of those particular RSC teams. On the girls side, I believe it’ll be one of the more interesting leagues and age ranges to keep track off this Fall. From a competitive and entertainment value proposition, it’ll be the best bang for the dollar a parent could ask for, this year especially. After speaking with a few parents of kids my dd played with, I’m in total agreement. Totally understand. Most people don’t believe game outcomes have much to do with training environment. Don't let your non-reciprocated loyalty blind you! Pipe down on the reactionary responses and digest the actual statement. Just a bit of advice from a fellow TH parent (clearly I believe in the environment). But to think that TH training and coaching is unilateral is laughable. Appears, TG is already looking to weed some of it out, just a bit too late for this season and IMO in-part due to adding worthy clubs like RSC, it'll reflect in the standings this fall.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jul 31, 2020 10:43:07 GMT -5
This season the SCCL games will be interesting. I think that there are several quality teams in SCCL and the addition of Santos will mean better parity. Santos' quality on the girls side has been increasing over the years that my older one has been playing. I agree on the best bang for your buck statement.
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Post by BubbleDad on Jul 31, 2020 12:23:32 GMT -5
Totally understand. Most people don’t believe game outcomes have much to do with training environment. Don't let your non-reciprocated loyalty blind you! Pipe down on the trigger happy, reactionary responses and digest the actual statement. Just a bit of advice from a fellow TH parent (clearly I believe in the environment). But to think that TH training and coaching is unilateral is laughable. Appears, TG is already looking to weed some of it out, just a bit too late for this season and IMO in-part due to adding worthy clubs like RSC, it'll reflect in the standings this fall. my statement is purely based on believing in my kid and hoping that she not only has fun but wins in the process. Believe me, I'm not being naive. I have a bunch of concerns this year considering our SCCL-CLUB team is the fourth down from the top and our girls will be playing teams that are top dogs at their club. I also have some other concerns that I won't express here but it is what it is and all I can do is help my daughter be the best player she can be as well as encourage her to be the best teammate she can be by uplifting her teammates verbally and by pulling her weight. From how covid is going, our team may be the highest level at NTH that will get the most playing time.
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Post by soccermum on Jul 31, 2020 23:18:50 GMT -5
Dunwoody, please let everyone know your soccer experience before posting. No credibility what so ever. You seem like you think you know a lot of soccer. Clubs that start with rondos every session: most Spain teams including Real Madrid, Barca of course, sevilla, valencia). Let’s go to EPL, man city, Arsenal, Liverpool.. let’s go to South America.... o wait do you know that much? Plus your on my daughters team and still a problem parent. Get a clue
Just making it fair since you’re speaking like you know a lot.
Most parents that have enjoyed him don’t have the time to come on here. I think a lot of busy parents love coming on here to share opinions. Well I’ll share mine: get your own opinions rather than listening to anyone on here. Good or bad make your own opinions. A lot of the posters on here to complain.
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Post by rifle on Aug 1, 2020 5:37:36 GMT -5
IMO if a coach is using rondos too much, you’re lucky. He could be having them run laps the whole time. At least rondos improve multiple soccer skills while warming up/building their fitness.
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Post by BubbleDad on Aug 1, 2020 7:37:37 GMT -5
Dunwoody, please let everyone know your soccer experience before posting. No credibility what so ever. You seem like you think you know a lot of soccer. Clubs that start with rondos every session: most Spain teams including Real Madrid, Barca of course, sevilla, valencia). Let’s go to EPL, man city, Arsenal, Liverpool.. let’s go to South America.... o wait do you know that much? Plus your on my daughters team and still a problem parent. Get a clue Just making it fair since you’re speaking like you know a lot. Most parents that have enjoyed him don’t have the time to come on here. I think a lot of busy parents love coming on here to share opinions. Well I’ll share mine: get your own opinions rather than listening to anyone on here. Good or bad make your own opinions. A lot of the posters on here to complain. ok soccermum ... shots fired! Rondo is best in small groups from what I've heard. We had a coach who would have the ENTIRE team in one big circle doing Rondo ... not as effective.
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Post by soccermum on Aug 1, 2020 11:23:46 GMT -5
IMO: Rondos are subjective because not a lot of parents, players, & and coaches understand them the same. I’ve seen some very poor rondos, some amazing rondos, some “warm up” rondos, session rondos, and every level of intensity. I think it depends on the approach, the coach, and the reasoning as to why use the activity.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 1, 2020 12:04:42 GMT -5
Rondos are only useful if the coach has a practice theme based off them. Otherwise it’s just a great fun warmup for the older kids and adults. Most U13s and down shouldn’t waste time doing rondos regularly, and good coaches know that.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 1, 2020 12:56:13 GMT -5
Dunwoody, please let everyone know your soccer experience before posting. No credibility what so ever. You seem like you think you know a lot of soccer. Clubs that start with rondos every session: most Spain teams including Real Madrid, Barca of course, sevilla, valencia). Let’s go to EPL, man city, Arsenal, Liverpool.. let’s go to South America.... o wait do you know that much? Plus your on my daughters team and still a problem parent. Get a clue Just making it fair since you’re speaking like you know a lot. Most parents that have enjoyed him don’t have the time to come on here. I think a lot of busy parents love coming on here to share opinions. Well I’ll share mine: get your own opinions rather than listening to anyone on here. Good or bad make your own opinions. A lot of the posters on here to complain. You don't know me from Adam and I have hardly any posts on this board and yet you think you know my soccer acumen? I don't question the use of rondos - it's the OVERUSE of them at every single practice session. And from a coach who didn't seem to take the responsibility of coaching young girls very seriously through actions and words. IMO, it spoke to how little thought he put into planning his practices. As for your comment about being on your daughter's team - no idea where you get that from. Your kid is not on my kid's team this year, nor last year. And none of my opinions about A. Munoz were formed on this board. They were formed by watching him work in person and hearing the complaints of other parents. And not just parents new to soccer either. Parents who had older kids playing at a high level and ones who grew up playing the game at a similar level. You don't get fired from coaching SCCL teams in mid-season for no reason. It will take several years to rebuild some of the age groups he left in his wake at his former club. Hey I'm glad you seem to like him. I would love to know that he's grown up, matured and become a better coach because the kids he's coaching will benefit. Clearly it's the career path he's chosen and I wish him no ill will. I just have my doubts about how successful he'll be at TopHat. I truly hope he proves me wrong.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 1, 2020 12:57:22 GMT -5
Rondos are only useful if the coach has a practice theme based off them. Otherwise it’s just a great fun warmup for the older kids and adults. Most U13s and down shouldn’t waste time doing rondos regularly, and good coaches know that. Interesting you say that about U13 and down - he was coaching a U12 team when I observed him.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 1, 2020 13:54:08 GMT -5
Rondos are only useful if the coach has a practice theme based off them. Otherwise it’s just a great fun warmup for the older kids and adults. Most U13s and down shouldn’t waste time doing rondos regularly, and good coaches know that. Interesting you say that about U13 and down - he was coaching a U12 team when I observed him. How about full practices at U9 and U10? All rondo at times. One touch too so basically soccer hot potato. I will tell you what it taught my kid...to give the ball up the second it got to her. Took years of work to undo that. I agree that it can be fun, helpful and a good warm up. Like anything else it is all about how you use a drill. I also agree that it is better used for older kids.
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