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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 6, 2020 8:48:12 GMT -5
Ok -- I'll admit, SCCL is the most confusing league on the planet?
What teams are in what group and which division is considered the highest?
oh and SSA dropped out of SCCL?
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SSA has NOT dropped out of sccl -- it was asked in another thread and therefore I was confused...
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Post by soccergurl on Aug 6, 2020 9:05:53 GMT -5
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 6, 2020 9:07:58 GMT -5
Ok -- I'll admit, SCCL is the most confusing league on the planet? What teams are in what group and which division is considered the highest? oh and SSA dropped out of SCCL? "SCCL", which some here call "SCCL-C", is the highest level. Below that is SCCL Premier or "SCCL-P". Previously there was just one level of SCCL-P but they've now expanded it to include additional levels of SCCL-P, indicated by a 1, 2, etc. Higher the number the farther down the level. SSA is still in SCCL as far as I'm aware. What makes you say they left? |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 6, 2020 9:14:53 GMT -5
SCCL-C, AKA SCCL, SCCL-Club, SCCL-Champions is a club based league where every SCCL-C (1 per age group, except U12 which can have 2 teams per age group) team per gender from one club plays every SCCL-C team per gender from another club.
SCCL-P AKA SCCL Premier is a team based league with promotion and relegation. SCCL-P is divided into 1, 2 and 3 and is essentially the same system as classic or athena. Each team in P1 will play the other teams in P1. Each team in P2 will play the other teams in P2, etc.
SSA is still in SCCL and SCCL-P as these names are reflected in a number of team names for SSA.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 6, 2020 9:21:14 GMT -5
SCCL-C, AKA SCCL, SCCL-Club, SCCL-Champions is a club based league where every SCCL-C (1 per age group, except U12 which can have 2 teams per age group) team per gender from one club plays every SCCL-C team per gender from another club. SCCL-P AKA SCCL Premier is a team based league with promotion and relegation. SCCL-P is divided into 1, 2 and 3 and is essentially the same system as classic or athena. Each team in P1 will play the other teams in P1. Each team in P2 will play the other teams in P2, etc. SSA is still in SCCL and SCCL-P as these names are reflected in a number of team names for SSA. This is how it was explained to me and what I have heard also. Does anyone know yet if it has been agreed upon what will occur with pro/rel between SCCL-C and SCCL-P1, or how the tops of SCCL-P1 will be rewarded? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 6, 2020 9:42:27 GMT -5
My guess, pro/rel will not happen into/out of the club-based league. Also a guess, no real reward for winning SCCL-P1, just like last year. They're just not thinking concretely. Brackets (and schedules) should be out by now...
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 6, 2020 10:45:59 GMT -5
SCCL-C, AKA SCCL, SCCL-Club, SCCL-Champions is a club based league where every SCCL-C (1 per age group, except U12 which can have 2 teams per age group) team per gender from one club plays every SCCL-C team per gender from another club. SCCL-P AKA SCCL Premier is a team based league with promotion and relegation. SCCL-P is divided into 1, 2 and 3 and is essentially the same system as classic or athena. Each team in P1 will play the other teams in P1. Each team in P2 will play the other teams in P2, etc. SSA is still in SCCL and SCCL-P as these names are reflected in a number of team names for SSA. This is how it was explained to me and what I have heard also. Does anyone know yet if it has been agreed upon what will occur with pro/rel between SCCL-C and SCCL-P1, or how the tops of SCCL-P1 will be rewarded? I think that if a club who is not in SCCL-C does well in SCCL-P across multiple age groups and genders then they can make the move up to SCCL-C. As far as winning P1, it would only be in the club, particularly with branch locations, decided that the P1 team was actually better than the SCCL team as changed how the teams under its umbrella were reassigned. |
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Post by soccermaxx72 on Aug 6, 2020 10:48:13 GMT -5
SCCL-C, AKA SCCL, SCCL-Club, SCCL-Champions is a club based league where every SCCL-C (1 per age group, except U12 which can have 2 teams per age group) team per gender from one club plays every SCCL-C team per gender from another club. SCCL-P AKA SCCL Premier is a team based league with promotion and relegation. SCCL-P is divided into 1, 2 and 3 and is essentially the same system as classic or athena. Each team in P1 will play the other teams in P1. Each team in P2 will play the other teams in P2, etc. SSA is still in SCCL and SCCL-P as these names are reflected in a number of team names for SSA. This is how it was explained to me and what I have heard also. Does anyone know yet if it has been agreed upon what will occur with pro/rel between SCCL-C and SCCL-P1, or how the tops of SCCL-P1 will be rewarded? There is no reward for an individual team that wins SCCL premier1. It is a league designed for convenience for the club to fill games for their second or in most cases their third teams. It is not designed for pro/rel at that level. Yes sccl premier 1 can move down if does poorly but can’t move up. |
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Post by OTPSoccer on Aug 6, 2020 11:33:08 GMT -5
This is how it was explained to me and what I have heard also. Does anyone know yet if it has been agreed upon what will occur with pro/rel between SCCL-C and SCCL-P1, or how the tops of SCCL-P1 will be rewarded? There is no reward for an individual team that wins SCCL premier1. It is a league designed for convenience for the club to fill games for their second or in most cases their third teams. It is not designed for pro/rel at that level. Yes sccl premier 1 can move down if does poorly but can’t move up. With that said, over the past couple years we've seen winning SCCL-P teams take the place of a losing SCCL-C team for particular clubs. UFA is a prime example given their Norcross + Forsyth locations. However, if AFU's SCCL-P team wins their division, they won't move up to SCCL-C. Otherwise, you'd have two AFU teams in the top division. Hope that makes sense. I'd also note that any team that wins SCCL-P has players that should be playing SCCL-C, NPL, or ECNL. So they may end up getting rewarded during the next tryout season. |
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Post by baller84 on Aug 6, 2020 11:39:35 GMT -5
For applicable age groups SSA's highest level is not SCCL or NPL, it's the MLS academy and potentially USL in 2021.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 6, 2020 11:44:25 GMT -5
There is no reward for an individual team that wins SCCL premier1. It is a league designed for convenience for the club to fill games for their second or in most cases their third teams. It is not designed for pro/rel at that level. Yes sccl premier 1 can move down if does poorly but can’t move up. With that said, over the past couple years we've seen winning SCCL-P teams take the place of a losing SCCL-C team for particular clubs. UFA is a prime example given their Norcross + Forsyth locations. However, if AFU's SCCL-P team wins their division, they won't move up to SCCL-C. Otherwise, you'd have two AFU teams in the top division. Hope that makes sense. I'd also note that any team that wins SCCL-P has players that should be playing SCCL-C, NPL, or ECNL. So they may end up getting rewarded during the next tryout season. Yep - that's our team - we were the lone SCCL-P team @ Norcross last year, then beat the SCCL team based @ Forsyth (twice) in tournaments, so we moved up to SCCL-C this year. |
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Post by Keeper on Aug 6, 2020 14:23:59 GMT -5
There is no reward for an individual team that wins SCCL premier1. It is a league designed for convenience for the club to fill games for their second or in most cases their third teams. It is not designed for pro/rel at that level. Yes sccl premier 1 can move down if does poorly but can’t move up. With that said, over the past couple years we've seen winning SCCL-P teams take the place of a losing SCCL-C team for particular clubs. UFA is a prime example given their Norcross + Forsyth locations. However, if AFU's SCCL-P team wins their division, they won't move up to SCCL-C. Otherwise, you'd have two AFU teams in the top division. Hope that makes sense. I'd also note that any team that wins SCCL-P has players that should be playing SCCL-C, NPL, or ECNL. So they may end up getting rewarded during the next tryout season. Not exactly true about AFU. As a couple of the AFU South teams took the SCCL Club spots so we were told those could flip flop based off results each year. South isnt guaranteed a SCCL Club spot unless they kept it so the P1 AFU North team could take it from them. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Aug 6, 2020 14:24:44 GMT -5
What UFA age group did that occur in?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Aug 6, 2020 14:44:49 GMT -5
What UFA age group did that occur in? 07 girls |
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Post by OTPSoccer on Aug 6, 2020 14:58:11 GMT -5
With that said, over the past couple years we've seen winning SCCL-P teams take the place of a losing SCCL-C team for particular clubs. UFA is a prime example given their Norcross + Forsyth locations. However, if AFU's SCCL-P team wins their division, they won't move up to SCCL-C. Otherwise, you'd have two AFU teams in the top division. Hope that makes sense. I'd also note that any team that wins SCCL-P has players that should be playing SCCL-C, NPL, or ECNL. So they may end up getting rewarded during the next tryout season. Not exactly true about AFU. As a couple of the AFU South teams took the SCCL Club spots so we were told those could flip flop based off results each year. South isnt guaranteed a SCCL Club spot unless they kept it so the P1 AFU North team could take it from them. Ok - forgot about AFU South. Thanks for correcting me. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 6, 2020 19:12:14 GMT -5
I hope those AFU south teams don't mind playing 4-5 "home" games in Duluth where the club side games will take place. I suppose it's no different than Concorde playing their home games at GSP though.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 6, 2020 22:37:51 GMT -5
I hope those AFU south teams don't mind playing 4-5 "home" games in Duluth where the club side games will take place. I suppose it's no different than Concorde playing their home games at GSP though. Not all of them. Heard AFU were moving some of those SCCL dates to North Mt Carmel since it’s a bigger and nicer venue then Scott Hudgins. Especially when they’re juggling Rec, Academy and Premier games. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 7, 2020 6:36:05 GMT -5
The million dollar question -- why is traffic always so bad when going to Mt Carmel -- that area is terrible. 75 is always a parking lot after the 675 merge
oh and the peach pass express lane seems to always be going the opposite way we are traveling
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 7, 2020 10:03:52 GMT -5
I hope those AFU south teams don't mind playing 4-5 "home" games in Duluth where the club side games will take place. I suppose it's no different than Concorde playing their home games at GSP though. Not all of them. Heard AFU were moving some of those SCCL dates to North Mt Carmel since it’s a bigger and nicer venue then Scott Hudgins. Especially when they’re juggling Rec, Academy and Premier games. I'll give you "bigger", but the fields are not "nicer". Unless you haven't been down there a while. We went in December and February and the fields were garbage. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Aug 7, 2020 10:29:16 GMT -5
Not all of them. Heard AFU were moving some of those SCCL dates to North Mt Carmel since it’s a bigger and nicer venue then Scott Hudgins. Especially when they’re juggling Rec, Academy and Premier games. I'll give you "bigger", but the fields are not "nicer". Unless you haven't been down there a while. We went in December and February and the fields were garbage. With nobody playing since that time, they should all be in much better shape by now. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 7, 2020 10:42:54 GMT -5
Really depends on how much work has been done in that time I guess. Vast dirt-swaths in front of many goals needed flattening and sod, not just over-seeding. I remember there was a patch at the top of one of the 18's that the ball would always change direction when it rolled onto/over, large holes and ridges in the dirt, it was a very unpredictable surface.
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