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Post by datrain on Aug 14, 2020 19:41:33 GMT -5
The SCCL Club team refuses to scrimmage my son’s SCCL P1 team as they believe it is beneath them to scrimmage a team one level down. The ECNL team on the other hand has no issue playing but the gap is wide enough.
Honestly, there is a part of me that thinks the SCCL Club Coach is afraid of a negative perception if he loses as the two teams are relatively even talent wise.
Is the best course of action to speak to the DOC, to reach out to the manager of the SCCL Club team or some other approach?
Curious as to thoughts from others as to what is right way to handle this
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Post by rifle on Aug 14, 2020 19:59:17 GMT -5
Perhaps disregard that unwilling participant and contact a team who wants to scrimmage?
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Post by Keeper on Aug 14, 2020 20:05:55 GMT -5
Yeah there is absolutely no reason for the club level team to play the P1 team. That can only end badly for both teams.
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Post by kidsocceruber on Aug 14, 2020 20:34:56 GMT -5
Daughter's SCCL-C team scrimmaged against the next year older SCCL-P team this week and it didn't end well for them, they didn't get a shot off and gave up quite a few goals. Scrimmaged the SCCL-C team a year younger that ended more or less the same. Not sure it helped either team honestly but leading into tournament I guess any game type situation is better than nothing.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 14, 2020 20:44:41 GMT -5
We have found that most clubs seem to schedule same level or one up/down at next age group up/down. Less likely to see the same age group one level difference.
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Post by datrain on Aug 14, 2020 20:50:53 GMT -5
I am not suggesting playing up a year or down a year....only referencing the same year
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Post by liverpoolfc on Aug 14, 2020 21:03:19 GMT -5
The SCCL Club team refuses to scrimmage my son’s SCCL P1 team as they believe it is beneath them to scrimmage a team one level down. The ECNL team on the other hand has no issue playing but the gap is wide enough. Honestly, there is a part of me that thinks the SCCL Club Coach is afraid of a negative perception if he loses as the two teams are relatively even talent wise. Is the best course of action to speak to the DOC, to reach out to the manager of the SCCL Club team or some other approach? Curious as to thoughts from others as to what is right way to handle this If a coach is afraid that his team has potential to loss to your son's team, that coach shouldn't be coaching at all. one, every coach should always look to play anyone regardless of level. If his team loss the game, he should go back and figure out what needs to be done to help his team. If his team wins, he should go back and figure out what areas the team needs to improve on. Regardless of the outcome it is always a win-win situation. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 14, 2020 21:58:07 GMT -5
I am not suggesting playing up a year or down a year....only referencing the same year I know. I am just saying, in my experience when the kids are U14 and up the coaches seem to spend more time scrimmaging teams in other age groups than they do their own age groups. Maybe it is to avoid the mess of losing to a lower team...maybe not. Regardless of the coach's reasons, if he does not want to scrimmage you it is doubtful that getting club higher ups to force it will be to anyone's advantage. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Aug 14, 2020 23:55:56 GMT -5
I agree. Elevating it to a DOC isn’t going to accelerate the process. It will only question motives. I’d encourage the coach to network and set up all willing and able competition.
Let the dust settle, when it comes to teams within the same club and age group. Plus it makes for good, “if only and what if” conversation. Who wants to chase small fish anyway... tell the coach, the team is ready to suit up and scrimmage up!
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Aug 15, 2020 6:23:09 GMT -5
The SCCL Club team refuses to scrimmage my son’s SCCL P1 team as they believe it is beneath them to scrimmage a team one level down. The ECNL team on the other hand has no issue playing but the gap is wide enough. Honestly, there is a part of me that thinks the SCCL Club Coach is afraid of a negative perception if he loses as the two teams are relatively even talent wise. Is the best course of action to speak to the DOC, to reach out to the manager of the SCCL Club team or some other approach? Curious as to thoughts from others as to what is right way to handle this Honestly and no disrespect intended but the other coach has no mandate to scrimmage yours or any other team. Maybe he is scared of how it will make him look or he's being a tad bit pompous, but regardless, as the head coach, he has the final say. I would definitely not go to the DOC(akin to going to a girl's dad because she wouldn't go out on a date with you), as that could start some real bad blood. My suggestion is to have you coach find other teams or clubs willing to play you guys. Better yet, reach out to other TMs and see if you both can set something up with or without coaches on the off days/weekends. With Covid, more folks are looking to lace up and just play quality and willing players. Just remember, scrimmages should be beneficial to all parties. Good luck... |
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Post by footyfan on Aug 15, 2020 6:37:09 GMT -5
Step 1 is find a willing participant
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Post by rifle on Aug 15, 2020 8:38:51 GMT -5
Step 1 is find a willing participant BINGO |
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 15, 2020 9:57:55 GMT -5
Step 1 is find a willing participant That pretty much applies to all areas of life. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 15, 2020 18:38:23 GMT -5
I am not suggesting playing up a year or down a year....only referencing the same year I know. I am just saying, in my experience when the kids are U14 and up the coaches seem to spend more time scrimmaging teams in other age groups than they do their own age groups. Maybe it is to avoid the mess of losing to a lower team...maybe not. Regardless of the coach's reasons, if he does not want to scrimmage you it is doubtful that getting club higher ups to force it will be to anyone's advantage. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Aug 15, 2020 18:41:47 GMT -5
Yes our girls team (piedmont league) has played in friendlies against several ecnl teams and it was always so lopsided that the parents of the ecnl teams would get upset. It is a no win to play against teams you are supposed to beat.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 16, 2020 20:25:05 GMT -5
I'm of the opinion that within a club a team should play a year older and level down or a year younger and level up.
Let's say your child is on an 06 SCCL team, they should play the 07 ECNL or 05 SCCL-P1 teams. You should get pretty competitive games this way.
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Post by soccerallstar on Sept 13, 2020 23:05:07 GMT -5
Step 1 is find a willing participant Said it all!!!!!! |
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