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Post by mightydawg on Aug 25, 2020 9:08:40 GMT -5
Looking at the set up of the SCCL Premier divisions, it tells an interesting story about youth soccer and when boys and girls stop playing. events.gotsport.com/events/?EventID=80548For boys, there are 4 premier divisions in U13, U14 and U15. At U16, it drops to 3 premier divisions and stays that way at U17 and U19. Assuming 10 to 12 teams per division and 15 players per team, that is 150 to 180 boys that stop playing from U15 to U16. For the girls, there are not as many players as the boys but the girls do not drop out until U17. From U13 to U16, there are 3 premier divisions. At U17 and U19, that number drops to 2 premier divisions. So again, about 150 to 180 girls stop playing soccer from U16 to U17. I am sure that this has been true for some time but the visual from the SCCL website makes it easier to see.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 25, 2020 9:12:05 GMT -5
Good observation. I think a lot of it is high school. Very demanding time for kids. Lots of school work, more limitations on free time, more demands on the social aspect of their lives. I find it interesting that the drop off is later for girls...maybe due to boys transitioning to tackle football?
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Post by bogan on Aug 25, 2020 9:33:30 GMT -5
Good observation. I think a lot of it is high school. Very demanding time for kids. Lots of school work, more limitations on free time, more demands on the social aspect of their lives. I find it interesting that the drop off is later for girls...maybe due to boys transitioning to tackle football? True-for some it’s economic-got to go to work to help out.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Aug 25, 2020 9:44:10 GMT -5
I know on my son's team for U15 year we lost 4-5 kids who were great soccer players to high school football. They just didn't have the time to do both they said. I'm sure a lot has to do with stuff like that.
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Post by mightydawg on Aug 25, 2020 9:53:11 GMT -5
National data shows that 70% of kids stop playing sports at 13 years old. That stat does not appear to be reflected in the SCCL Premier brackets. I would be interested to know the number of kids that play at U12 v. U13 v. U14 to see how that statistic applies to soccer.
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Post by Keeper on Aug 25, 2020 12:10:23 GMT -5
National data shows that 70% of kids stop playing sports at 13 years old. That stat does not appear to be reflected in the SCCL Premier brackets. I would be interested to know the number of kids that play at U12 v. U13 v. U14 to see how that statistic applies to soccer. Of that 70% a majority are Rec players dropping out as they hit Middle school. Just go look at every club and after U12 teams just disappear.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Aug 25, 2020 12:59:35 GMT -5
I think participation typically reduces/diminishes by about 5-7 teams per year (on the girls side) from U13 on (so about 85 players quit per year). Thats inclusive of all select teams in Georgia. This is extrapolated from previous years' ECNL/DA/SCCL/NL/Athena. At U13 there's about 60 teams (6 ECNL(5)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~35 Athena/SCCL-P) U14 ~55 (6 ECNL(5)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~30 GPL/Athena/SCCL-P) U15 ~50 (6 ECNL(5)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~25 GPL/Athena/SCCL-P) U16 ~45 (6 ECNL(5)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~20 GPL/Athena/SCCL-P) U17 ~40 (6 ECNL(5)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~16 GPL/Athena/SCCL-P) U18 ~15 (~5 NL, ~10 GPL/Athena) U19 ~45 (10 ECNL(5)/ECNL Composite(4)/GA1(1), ~18 NPL(3)/GA2(1)/DPL(1)/SCCL-C(8)/NL(5), ~15 GPL/Athena/SCCL-P)
It also speaks to the leagues discussion on the board. The league matters more if it will continue to exist/have consistent participation (especially viable between first and 2nd tiers, 3rd tier is a total crapshoot on whether a team will exist from one year to another).
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Post by rifle on Aug 25, 2020 16:33:45 GMT -5
National data shows that 70% of kids stop playing sports at 13 years old. That stat does not appear to be reflected in the SCCL Premier brackets. I would be interested to know the number of kids that play at U12 v. U13 v. U14 to see how that statistic applies to soccer. Of that 70% a majority are Rec players dropping out as they hit Middle school. Just go look at every club and after U12 teams just disappear. Rec numbers likely fall like a rock due to club soccer playing peers (parroting their parents and) telling them they suck. Kids and parents are cruel.
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Post by mistergrinch on Aug 25, 2020 17:09:04 GMT -5
Of that 70% a majority are Rec players dropping out as they hit Middle school. Just go look at every club and after U12 teams just disappear. Rec numbers likely fall like a rock due to club soccer playing peers (parroting their parents and) telling them they suck. Kids and parents are cruel. Or maybe if they want to play that type of soccer, they can play for their school..
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Post by oraclesfriend on Aug 25, 2020 19:37:22 GMT -5
Of that 70% a majority are Rec players dropping out as they hit Middle school. Just go look at every club and after U12 teams just disappear. Rec numbers likely fall like a rock due to club soccer playing peers (parroting their parents and) telling them they suck. Kids and parents are cruel. People can be cruel. Players and parents telling kids they suck is not limited to select players telling that to rec players. I have heard coaches tell that to kids trying out for teams. I have heard players on the same alphabet league team tell each other that. I am not sure that other kids quit rec soccer at middle school age for that reason though. It is not like that bias starts at that age. Most academy age players already think rec is bad by U10-U12. I think it is just other interests and opportunities that pop up at that time. Middle school theater and chorus and band and other sports that they may not have ever tried all open up at that time.
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Post by bogan on Aug 25, 2020 20:01:12 GMT -5
Everyone hangs up their cleats at some point-some later than others.
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