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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 10:52:44 GMT -5
There is an email thread going around between our club leadership and the TM's about which colors we should wear at home and which we should wear on the road. The club's policy this year is home uniforms should be light colors and road uniforms should be dark colors. Whereas a few TM's say that this is contrary to what they've observed in recent years with our opponents, meaning our teams will most likely have to change uniforms almost every game. So figured this would make for a good poll. Frankly I'm surprised each league doesn't have their own policy so that all clubs in those leagues have to abide by it.
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Post by mightydawg on Sept 9, 2020 11:02:03 GMT -5
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 9, 2020 11:02:34 GMT -5
In most sports traditionally you wear your colors at home, with the notable exception of the Dallas Cowboys. As far as I can tell, the soccer tradition is the reverse.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 11:20:29 GMT -5
D'oh! So we played SCCLP all last year and never knew this rule existed (unless they just came up with it?). Thanks. Problem, of course, is that it's not communicated to the TM's as an SCCL rule. So who knows what your opponents will wear each game. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 11:25:02 GMT -5
In most sports traditionally you wear your colors at home, with the notable exception of the Dallas Cowboys. As far as I can tell, the soccer tradition is the reverse. Baseball wears white/light colors at home, dark on the road. But yes, football is definitely dark/colored jerseys at home and white on the road, except for certain teams that like to wear white for all games (LSU, Ga. Tech, Dallas Cowboys, etc.). I couldn't tell you what the NBA does, but I know college BB is white/light at home, dark/colors on the road. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 9, 2020 11:32:35 GMT -5
Baseball uniforms are all over the place regarding color ways, but the thing they do (almost all teams) is when they’re at home the team name is on the jersey (Braves), and when they’re away the city name is on the jersey (Atlanta).
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 11:45:51 GMT -5
Georgia Soccer was/is dark Home and light away but I know a couple years ago when R3PL was still a thing we were told it was now Light for Home and Dark for Away which started causing issues.
So to use Atlanta Fire as an example and their All Reds and All Black, what would you consider light and dark?
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 11:49:33 GMT -5
But this shouldn’t be a problem if the head coach/team manager ALL did their jobs and reach out to the opponent the at least the Monday prior to go over all this.
I know years past for Academy I’d wear what was better. Say playing Tophat we could wear white kits with no issues as they’d have on yellow or blue.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 12:18:20 GMT -5
Baseball uniforms are all over the place regarding color ways, but the thing they do (almost all teams) is when they’re at home the team name is on the jersey (Braves), and when they’re away the city name is on the jersey (Atlanta). Not really. Agree with you on the team name at home and city name on the road. But baseball has always worn white/light uniforms at home and dark/colored uniforms on the road. The only change from that is when you see some teams wear a special colored jersey at home. Example is the red jersey the Braves wear at home on a certain day of the week (I think it's on Fridays now but feel like it's been on Sundays in past years). But the red jersey is always paired with the home white pants and the opponent always wears dark colors but usually they wear full grey (or something similar) when the Braves wear red. |
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Sept 9, 2020 12:32:08 GMT -5
Baseball has also worn vests, shorts, pinstripes, and rainbows. The grays, colors, and combinations don’t matter because it’s not a sport in which players have to distinguish between “their guys & our guys” In a fraction of a second while making decisions on the field. It’s really just a bunch of grown men sitting around in their pajamas.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Sept 9, 2020 12:36:21 GMT -5
But this shouldn’t be a problem if the head coach/team manager ALL did their jobs and reach out to the opponent the at least the Monday prior to go over all this. I know years past for Academy I’d wear what was better. Say playing Tophat we could wear white kits with no issues as they’d have on yellow or blue. At the younger (academy) age groups TMs do not have contact info for other team's TMs. Last year our academy scheduler told us which uniform we would wear each game day. That was great but he told us on Thursday or Friday. Personally I would like to know earlier in the week. |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 12:45:52 GMT -5
But this shouldn’t be a problem if the head coach/team manager ALL did their jobs and reach out to the opponent the at least the Monday prior to go over all this. I know years past for Academy I’d wear what was better. Say playing Tophat we could wear white kits with no issues as they’d have on yellow or blue. At the younger (academy) age groups TMs do not have contact info for other team's TMs. Last year our academy scheduler told us which uniform we would wear each game day. That was great but he told us on Thursday or Friday. Personally I would like to know earlier in the week. True most TMs in Academy don’t have that info, but the coach/Academy Director does. As a coach we use to get a Sunday/Monday email confirmation with all the Academy games to verify all that. Goes back to the “Head Coach” following through. This day in age with all the Tech it’s just laziness if you can’t communicate. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Sept 9, 2020 12:59:30 GMT -5
how about those who don't really have a light uniform? UFA and AFU have had plenty of years where it was black and red..
This also assumes solid colors.. what about stripes? (we need more stripes)
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Post by bogan on Sept 9, 2020 13:02:13 GMT -5
how about those who don't really have a light uniform? UFA and AFU have had plenty of years where it was black and red.. This also assumes solid colors.. what about stripes? (we need more stripes) Just not the white and red “Where’s Waldo?” ones. I think it was GSA that used to wear them. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 13:02:58 GMT -5
Baseball has also worn vests, shorts, pinstripes, and rainbows. The grays, colors, and combinations don’t matter because it’s not a sport in which players have to distinguish between “their guys & our guys” In a fraction of a second while making decisions on the field. It’s really just a bunch of grown men sitting around in their pajamas. Hold on a minute - are you seriously making fun of baseball uniforms in a soccer forum? Need I remind you of the absolute CRAP that soccer teams have worn over the years? When they show those nostalgic clips of old soccer players, especially in the U.S., I am always amazed at how awful those things look. And how about the advertising on soccer uniforms? Don't get me started. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 13:07:42 GMT -5
how about those who don't really have a light uniform? UFA and AFU have had plenty of years where it was black and red.. This also assumes solid colors.. what about stripes? (we need more stripes) can't speak to AFU but UFA now has an all-grey (very light grey) uniform and an all-black uniform. Dunkin' Donuts is no longer on the front, they went back to the old "United" design on the front. Which reminds me - I've never understood why Concorde doesn't put their shield/crest on the front like other clubs. The "Concorde Fire" that's there instead can barely be read from afar. You'd think they'd put that on the sleeve rather than the chest. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 9, 2020 13:26:57 GMT -5
ECNL/SCCL is home-light, away-dark. If the visitor's uniform is too close to the home team's uniform, then the home team must change. I think its the USSF standard and I assume US Club follows that.
USYS/GA Soccer is the odd man putting home-dark, away-light.
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Post by mistergrinch on Sept 9, 2020 13:42:06 GMT -5
how about those who don't really have a light uniform? UFA and AFU have had plenty of years where it was black and red.. This also assumes solid colors.. what about stripes? (we need more stripes) Just not the white and red “Where’s Waldo?” ones. I think it was GSA that used to wear them. If I recall.. GSA had horizontal.. Concord had vertical.
I like striped uniforms.. the tophat 'fade' is cool, too.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 9, 2020 13:47:59 GMT -5
Yes to vertical stripes, no to horizontal rugby stripes (unless its Celtic).
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 13:52:32 GMT -5
Baseball has also worn vests, shorts, pinstripes, and rainbows. The grays, colors, and combinations don’t matter because it’s not a sport in which players have to distinguish between “their guys & our guys” In a fraction of a second while making decisions on the field. It’s really just a bunch of grown men sitting around in their pajamas. Hold on a minute - are you seriously making fun of baseball uniforms in a soccer forum? Need I remind you of the absolute CRAP that soccer teams have worn over the years? When they show those nostalgic clips of old soccer players, especially in the U.S., I am always amazed at how awful those things look. And how about the advertising on soccer uniforms? Don't get me started. Don’t even have to go old school to see crap-tasticly ugly kits. Just look at gsa’s Parkview Orange and Brookwood Maroon kits. 🤮🤮🤮 |
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 14:12:08 GMT -5
Ha ... I only WISH that the color of our uniform was the issue. What the kids tried on at "mandatory uniform try-ons", and what was ordered, and what is being delivered has been three completely different "styles" cut and fit. All non-refundable and non-returnable! Just burning money over here for fun! And the team manager just keeps sending out Thanks for your patience and understanding emails from the club. 18 teams x 18 players x 2 uniform kits = $42,768 worth of useless uniforms! What brand? |
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Post by flix on Sept 9, 2020 14:15:04 GMT -5
Just not the white and red “Where’s Waldo?” ones. I think it was GSA that used to wear them. If I recall.. GSA had horizontal.. Concord had vertical.
I like striped uniforms.. the tophat 'fade' is cool, too.
Concorde’s vertical jerseys about four years ago were nice. Red/white and black/grey |
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Post by greenmonkey on Sept 9, 2020 14:18:39 GMT -5
All
Delayed!
Insufficient
Designs!
Apocalyptic
Shipping!
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Post by Keeper on Sept 9, 2020 14:38:28 GMT -5
All Delayed! Insufficient Designs! Apocalyptic Shipping! Yeah I don’t know what the Germans are doing but they’re only good for Copa’s and Samba’s now. If it’s not Puma or Nike, it’s CRAP! |
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Post by themaker on Sept 9, 2020 14:49:34 GMT -5
D'oh! So we played SCCLP all last year and never knew this rule existed (unless they just came up with it?). Thanks. Problem, of course, is that it's not communicated to the TM's as an SCCL rule. So who knows what your opponents will wear each game. The TMs should have been advised by the club’s SCCL director each game, which color uniforms to wear. That was one of the perks of the club based schedules. Every team from each club was to wear the same color uniform. They coordinated to ensure both clubs didn’t show up in white. Issues were with individual teams that for some reason or another didn’t get them memo. We still have situations where TMs don’t read rules of tournaments and note home is light and away is dark and their team follows their own club’s uniform choice. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Sept 9, 2020 15:06:48 GMT -5
D'oh! So we played SCCLP all last year and never knew this rule existed (unless they just came up with it?). Thanks. Problem, of course, is that it's not communicated to the TM's as an SCCL rule. So who knows what your opponents will wear each game. The TMs should have been advised by the club’s SCCL director each game, which color uniforms to wear. That was one of the perks of the club based schedules. Every team from each club was to wear the same color uniform. They coordinated to ensure both clubs didn’t show up in white. Issues were with individual teams that for some reason or another didn’t get them memo. We still have situations where TMs don’t read rules of tournaments and note home is light and away is dark and their team follows their own club’s uniform choice. I should clarify here - our club always let us know which colors to wear for each game, as it was obvious they were reaching out to our opponent clubs to find out what each team will/should wear. I was just saying that I had no idea SCCL actually had a specific rule about which uniform to wear at home versus away. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Sept 9, 2020 15:17:04 GMT -5
My only irritation is that a lot of clubs that have teams in SCCL don't listen to the SCCL rules that spell it out. For instance SSA's away is now blue in SCCL and light yellow for home.
Our TM just checked with the team my son's team is playing Sunday (a NTH team) and the NTH TM says their home uniform is Blue not their off-white/grey kit they use.
So some director at these clubs aren't communicating with their SCCL teams.
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Post by soccernoleuk on Sept 9, 2020 16:06:35 GMT -5
D'oh! So we played SCCLP all last year and never knew this rule existed (unless they just came up with it?). Thanks. Problem, of course, is that it's not communicated to the TM's as an SCCL rule. So who knows what your opponents will wear each game. This has been a rule since the beginning as far as I know. I recall reading the rule last year and was thinking, why? I am used to dark at home and light away. Regarding AFU, black would be the dark color and thus the away uniforms, while red is light and thus the home uniforms. I don't know if that is how they are actually planning it though. Don't they also have a third kit which is actually lighter than the red and black? I wonder where / how that fits in. At GSA I know it is typically white at home and red/black on the road. We also have the orange uniforms and mix them in from time to time now matter where we play since nobody else has orange. Additionally, the official uniform selections come out Thursday evening or Friday morning. From my understanding someone at the club (Frazier I believe), speaks with the other clubs we are playing, and they work out uniforms so both clubs don't wear the same thing. GSA is big about everyone looking the same, so typically all SCCL teams will wear the same uniforms...depending on location (home typically = white & away typically = dark). Bottom line though, always have a backup kit. This is especially true if you are at home because if there is a conflict, the home team is supposed to change. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 9, 2020 16:07:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately for us, Nike's womens Challenge III jersey runs smaller than the Challenge II, so some folks who didn't try them on had to consider ordering a larger set of jerseys (at a 20% discount). Conversely, the Nike women's laser shorts run about 2 sizes larger than the shorts used in the last uniform cycle. Thankfully Lloyd's was cool about simple exchanges for the shorts.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Sept 9, 2020 16:11:37 GMT -5
Regarding AFU, black would be the dark color and thus the away uniforms, while red is light and thus the home uniforms. I don't know if that is how they are actually planning it though. Don't they also have a third kit which is actually lighter than the red and black? I wonder where / how that fits in. At GSA I know it is typically white at home and red/black on the road. We also have the orange uniforms and mix them in from time to time now matter where we play since nobody else has orange. Additionally, the official uniform selections come out Thursday evening or Friday morning. From my understanding someone at the club (Frazier I believe), speaks with the other clubs we are playing, and they work out uniforms so both clubs don't wear the same thing. GSA is big about everyone looking the same, so typically all SCCL teams will wear the same uniforms...depending on location (home typically = white & away typically = dark). Bottom line though, always have a backup kit. This is especially true if you are at home because if there is a conflict, the home team is supposed to change.
Correct, at AFU red is home, black away. But we also have a gray kit for 1st and 2nd teams. So when GSA ECNL/SCCL-C comes visiting in the red/black stripes, I assume we would switch to the gray kit. What the SCCL-P teams are going to do, I have no idea...
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