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Post by spectator on Aug 17, 2014 7:52:56 GMT -5
8am game and the crazies are out this morning
First up. - ignorant NASA dad shrieking the wrong instructions to his kid. I had to laugh when I overheard one of the NASA players mutter "shut up" while running down the field. Dude hasn't shut up yet and really needs to learn the game before opening his mouth.
Met a nice guy from GSA taking pictures to stay away from the crazies. Not hearing much on these sidelines other than loco NASA daddy
The field over is obviously a World Cup final based on the intensity of the sidelines. That is if U9 had a World Cup. I may try to get audio - those parents are cray cray
Two more games. Stay tuned.....
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Post by rifle on Aug 17, 2014 8:56:00 GMT -5
I will always wonder why a coach won't keep that stuff in check...
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Post by spectator on Aug 17, 2014 9:37:18 GMT -5
I will always wonder why a coach won't keep that stuff in check... Most of the time a coach can't hear it from across the field unless it's really loud. We asked our coach if he heard a certain parent once and he said to him it sounded like Charlie Browns teacher - wanh wanh wanh. Once we brought it to the coach's attention, he specifically listened for it then addressed it. |
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Post by spectator on Aug 17, 2014 9:43:09 GMT -5
Game two - remarkably sedate between Concorde and UFA Norcross but Top Hat parents one field over are being jerks and their game hasn't even started yet.
Listening to a group of dads talking - what a pompous bunch of A-holes. Criticizing the other team during warm ups saying things like "she sucks". "We can get past the fat one". Dudes - these are 11 year olds and someone's daughter. I'm rooting for the other team now. Jerks.
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Post by Strikermom on Aug 17, 2014 10:26:35 GMT -5
Spectator which field ?? My daughter in U14 final at Metro North 2:00. Crazy NASA dad yelling " kettle orn" yesterday!!
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Post by spectator on Aug 17, 2014 10:35:30 GMT -5
Spectator which field ?? My daughter in U14 final at Metro North 2:00. Crazy NASA dad yelling " kettle orn" yesterday!! "kettle orn"? LOL what the heck does that mean? She's doing the U12's at Quest - I expect the 2pm game to be hot as blue blazes - ugh! Home now catching up on homework before she has to head back over. The UFA Norcross v Concorde game was a heartbreaker - 0-0 the whole game - Concorde got one in with 5 minutes left. I have to say - with no dog in that hunt - Norcross totally outplayed Concorde. As I was leaving, I told one of the Norcross mom's that they were definitely a better team and good luck with their season - she thanked me but another mom snipped at me - "it only takes one goal and we lost". At that point it wasn't worth explaining to potential psycho mom that U12 Academy pre-season doesn't mean squat and their girls had some mad skills that will take them further than a medal won at a tournament now. One other observation - the dads are the real psychos when their girls are playing - at least from the two games today. Even snippy mom wasn't a screamer during the game. I'm still appalled at the group of Top Hat dads tearing down the other team's players - those men were acting worse than middle school girls as petty and mean as their comments were. I really hope Top Hat loses that game - we didn't stick around to see though but Ill check the stats later! Good luck to your daughter's team, sacawarrior! And be nice to your AR - one day that could be my kid!  |
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Post by spectator on Aug 17, 2014 14:03:30 GMT -5
Note to Top Hat Academy Parents
Your team is good
Your girls have skills
You are ranked #1 in GA (like that means squat at U11)
But your sense of entitlement that every team you play is beneath you is annoying and ridiculous.
And not every brush against your kid is a foul an offside or a handball. Shut up!
Seriously - that team's parents are an embarrassment - I'm rooting for GSA right now
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Post by Strikermom on Aug 17, 2014 16:40:14 GMT -5
UFA had a great showing at NASA! Congrats to U14 UFA Nircross Red and Premier teams winning their divisions
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Post by jack4343 on Aug 17, 2014 17:18:39 GMT -5
UFA had a great showing at NASA! Congrats to U14 UFA Nircross Red and Premier teams winning their divisions Congrats! They did have a great showing. My u9 daughter at UFA-Norcross won their division as well. Spectator, I at first thought your kid was my daughter's AR as they played vs. Concorde this morning but you mentioned it was u12. I wasn't there but glad the sidelines there were calm. Hate it when it gets out of control. |
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Post by Strikermom on Aug 17, 2014 20:03:53 GMT -5
Thanks Jack!!!
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Post by Keeperkeeper on Aug 17, 2014 23:53:42 GMT -5
Game two - remarkably sedate between Concorde and UFA Norcross but Top Hat parents one field over are being jerks and their game hasn't even started yet. Listening to a group of dads talking - what a pompous bunch of A-holes. Criticizing the other team during warm ups saying things like "she sucks". "We can get past the fat one". Dudes - these are 11 year olds and someone's daughter. I'm rooting for the other team now. Jerks. I was there, and you are so right! We played the top U12 team, and the Tophat parents are very intimidating. But, on another note, a GSA Grandma yelled at her granddaughter to "That's what I am talking about; take her out." The "her" she was referring to was my my daughter. The play prior to the statement was a blatant foul (and free kick) on my daughter. I repeated what she said loudly (and in a tone of utter disbelief). The grandma turned around and made the excuse that she wasn't talking about my child but another kid on our team. Really?! |
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Post by jetta25 on Aug 18, 2014 7:36:36 GMT -5
I just want to clarify the statement made about the GSA Grandma. I was there and she did say Take 'IT' down, after is was suggested that she was talking about another child she did turn around and clarify that she was talking to her grandchild to take the ball down meaning she was dribbling towards the goal. Now I want to again state: she did say take it down and she also turned around and clarified her statement. You may be in disbelief about the tone but her granddaughter was in possession of the ball at the time of the statement and the passion in her voice was to see her daughter make a play. And about the blatant foul, at no time in the years my daughter has been associated with this team, no member of this team has EVER received a red or yellow card. This team practices hard, they play hard and they play with passion(not dirty) and I am tired of the name calling and the disrespect this team receives.
Thanks
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Post by spectator on Aug 18, 2014 13:28:45 GMT -5
This isn't directed at any specific poster or situation here - just a general rant:
No parent - or adult on a sideline should ever EVER instruct a player on the field for anything - PERIOD! This includes where to kick the ball or who to 'take out'. I've seen a ref eject a parent for telling a kid to take out another kid and deservedly so. So to all parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles or any adult on the sidelines, remember two main points:
1. THIS IS A GAME! Not warfare - not world cup - a game your child plays because he or she finds it fun. Don't suck the fun out of it by yelling on the sidelines or getting all wrapped up in winning. IT. IS. A. GAME!
2. SOCCER IS PHYSICAL! Any mommy who puts little Chauncey in soccer because she believes is isn't a contact sport is smoking crack. Soccer is a very physical game and referees are there to make sure the physicality doesn't get dangerous. However parents and adults on the sidelines need to remember that not every lean in or tackle is a foul so for the love of God, stop screaming for a foul or calling for your player to 'take something or someone down'. The only thing that makes you look more like a bozo on the sidelines is screaming 'handball' every time the ball bounces upward. Unless the ball strikes a hand and creates an advantage, play on and shut up!
I didn't hear anything like was is mentioned above yesterday but I remove myself from the masses of parents when my kid is refereeing. I did hear the group of Top Had Daddies scream handball - a lot. They really made asses of themselves But the center ref did a good job of ignoring them.
My daughter's comments about the parents on the sidelines:
Game one - NASA vs GSA - NASA dad I mentioned earlier was 'annoying and stupid' (her words). Other NASA parents were OK. She did mention a couple of women on the GSA side who were really loud but she didn't hear anything bad - just as she put it 'stupid chatter'.
Game two - UFA Norcross/Concorde - a Norcross parent thanked her after the game - that meant a lot to her and does to any referee so be a good sport example to your kids and thank your Refs - it's a thankless job. Concorde parents were 'OK' - she said one mom was annoying calling for a foul everytime a player touched one of theirs but for the most part they were OK.
Game three - Final Top Hat vs GSA. She said the Top Hat parents were really obnoxious and one guy wouldn't move to let her by (so she stepped on his feet - he moved after that). WARNING TO PARENTS WHO TRY THIS CRAP - my kid will take you out if you are in her way on the sidelines as she runs to keep up with the play - in fact she will probably enjoy knocking some passive agressive jerk to the ground so don't push it!
Seriously though - move back. The AR needs room to keep up with the play. Again she mentioned a couple of obnoxious GSA ladies but she didn't hear anything worth calling out. She said the Top Hat parents annoyed her so much she was hoping GSA would win the game -she didn't or wouldn't purposely favor them but inside she said she was cheering when they did something good - although she told me that one GSA dad kept saying - loudly - that the reffing sucked! No - no it didn't - in fact I thought the center did an outstanding job of keeping the game moving and fair. It was a very good and well matched game. Two exceptional U12 girls teams - despite their obnoxious parents. I will say the GSA goalie had a bit of a mouth on her and needs to watch the language and arguing back. I was behind the goal and hear a few 'F' bombs out of an 11 year old's mouth - not cool!
But most of all - parents - SHUT UP!
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Post by dreaddy on Aug 18, 2014 13:53:37 GMT -5
Here it is, Monday. I was not at any games this weekend - didn't even have time to watch any on TV! I just want to say thinks to spectator for the comments above. It's been quite entertaining. I hope your daughter enjoys refereeing and has the will to stick with it and hopefully move up the ranks as she gets older and more experienced!
I'll be out there this weekend and I have plenty of time between my team's games to do some people watching myself.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 18, 2014 18:59:53 GMT -5
what are the odds, my son is at nasa boys this weekend, same times, same fields as this past weekend. see ya at 8:00 am! wake up at 5:45!
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Post by jack4343 on Aug 18, 2014 19:30:02 GMT -5
Kudos to the UFA-Norcross parent that thanked your daughter! Makes the club look great! I try to do that but don't always get a chance to as I'm waiting for my child but the good thing is that my daughter's coach makes it a point for the kids to not only shake the other team's hands but the refs as well.
As far as psycho parents go, everything was very calm and sedate at the Asheville tourney among all the games that I saw this weekend. The play was pretty clean and the parents minded their manners. My kid only got knocked down once and that's saying something as it's pretty rough in the center.
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Post by spectator on Aug 18, 2014 20:02:00 GMT -5
SoccerAdmin - she's at Metro North this weekend. 8am again oy!
Jack - I'm sure your weather was way cooler than ours here. Glad you had a good time and yes - the Norcross folks this weekend did your club proud. That U12 girls team has some great skills too. They will do well come U13 time!
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 6, 2014 6:04:59 GMT -5
Hey spectator...my kid is reffing this weekend as a AR for the first time! Excited yet nervous at the same time...and she is too. LOL! Hope they put her on the coaches side to start. We know the UFA coaches so it shouldn't be too feisty today. I'll be sitting somewhere nearby to observe. Maybe I'll even yell at her a bit. |
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Post by spectator on Sept 6, 2014 8:30:13 GMT -5
Good luck to your daughter , Jack! Hope she enjoys it - or at least comes away with a good observation or two. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts as well
We have two games this weekend so no reffing until next week if she decides to.
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Post by jack4343 on Sept 7, 2014 7:26:10 GMT -5
It went great yesterday! She did a great job. She had an experienced center ref the first game and helped her work out the butterflies. Thanks Mario! The games were all UFA-Norcross against GSA boys. Two games were u11, one was u10. Fun to watch the boys play. The pace of the game is so much faster even at the younger ages. The girls definitely play a much more rougher form of soccer. The boys are just technically better for the most part. The first UFA team (u11 Premier) really put on a clinic out there. The skill level on that team was insane! I was surprised at how lopsided the games were. I think the total for the 3 games was around 28 to 0. I always knew the Norcross program was stronger on the boys side but wasn't prepared for that. Definitely interesting to see a game that I don't have a stake in. Boy it was hot early out there though. The parents were very sedate compared to the girls games I've witnessed. Maybe it was due to the lopsided scores but maybe the parents at the boys games are more subdued.
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Post by spectator on Sept 7, 2014 16:57:08 GMT -5
So glad she had a good first experience and I hope she keeps it up. Great that your club puts the first R9's with experienced referees - NASA's scheduler does that, too. We have the next few weekends free so hopefully the kid will get out there and earn her keep.
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Post by momager on Sept 10, 2014 0:45:32 GMT -5
Game two - remarkably sedate between Concorde and UFA Norcross but Top Hat parents one field over are being jerks and their game hasn't even started yet. Listening to a group of dads talking - what a pompous bunch of A-holes. Criticizing the other team during warm ups saying things like "she sucks". "We can get past the fat one". Dudes - these are 11 year olds and someone's daughter. I'm rooting for the other team now. Jerks. I would seriously have to tell that loser to STFU. Parents like that infuriate me. |
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Post by momager on Sept 10, 2014 0:50:03 GMT -5
I just want to clarify the statement made about the GSA Grandma. I was there and she did say Take 'IT' down, after is was suggested that she was talking about another child she did turn around and clarify that she was talking to her grandchild to take the ball down meaning she was dribbling towards the goal. Now I want to again state: she did say take it down and she also turned around and clarified her statement. You may be in disbelief about the tone but her granddaughter was in possession of the ball at the time of the statement and the passion in her voice was to see her daughter make a play. And about the blatant foul, at no time in the years my daughter has been associated with this team, no member of this team has EVER received a red or yellow card. This team practices hard, they play hard and they play with passion(not dirty) and I am tired of the name calling and the disrespect this team receives. Thanks Blah, Blah, Blah! More GSA excuses. I've seen this team many times over the past couple of years. Justify it all you want, but there was intent and a meaning behind it. IF GSA Grandma is as passionate as you claim, you may want to buy her Soccer For Dummies and quiz her up on the standard soccer language. Just saying. |
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Post by jetta25 on Sept 10, 2014 11:25:35 GMT -5
I just want to clarify the statement made about the GSA Grandma. I was there and she did say Take 'IT' down, after is was suggested that she was talking about another child she did turn around and clarify that she was talking to her grandchild to take the ball down meaning she was dribbling towards the goal. Now I want to again state: she did say take it down and she also turned around and clarified her statement. You may be in disbelief about the tone but her granddaughter was in possession of the ball at the time of the statement and the passion in her voice was to see her daughter make a play. And about the blatant foul, at no time in the years my daughter has been associated with this team, no member of this team has EVER received a red or yellow card. This team practices hard, they play hard and they play with passion(not dirty) and I am tired of the name calling and the disrespect this team receives. Thanks Blah, Blah, Blah! More GSA excuses. I've seen this team many times over the past couple of years. Justify it all you want, but there was intent and a meaning behind it. IF GSA Grandma is as passionate as you claim, you may want to buy her Soccer For Dummies and quiz her up on the standard soccer language. Just saying. Ok, not sure what you are talking about when you mentioned more GSA excuses (please clarify) . I'm not aware of any GSA book of ready to use excuses so please forgive me. I felt the need to respond to the above statement because the person who made the initial statement made an attempt to clarify her words. It is a serious issue for a parent to direct a player to hurt another player and that's why I felt the need to clarify this because statements and actions like that have no place in youth soccer. To suggest that was the intent of this person is very wrong (not sure if you were there or not) and if you have evidence to the contrary (ie. history of her past actions and statements) please state it. Comments and generalizations like this give negative reputations where they are not deserved. And by the way, I would love to own the rights to 'Soccers for Dummies' and sell to all spectators who are not "quizzed up" on standard soccer language because I could put in my retirement papers today and live like The Donald. Just Saying Thanks |
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Post by fan on Sept 10, 2014 15:56:42 GMT -5
Hopefully this is a good wake up call to everyone to watch what you say on the sideline. What you say doesn't always come across like you intended. I do however think that comments like "Blah, Blah, Blah! ..." are disrespectful. Two people offered their side of the story. For those of us who weren't there (momager included I assume), we have no first-hand experience to know what was said. I'm reminded of a local team that one of my kids played where there was some particularly bad behavior. In the end, our team received apologies from the opposing players, coach and DOC. For me to assume their whole club was like that would be wrong. Even to assume that particular team was always like that would be wrong. My kids have played that club several times since without incident. We had another bad experience with an out-of-state team. We've never seen them again so maybe they're always like that  . |
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Post by SoccerMom on Sept 11, 2014 12:02:46 GMT -5
Calm down and lets not point any fingers....I could name a few clubs myself with psycho parents, but that may be just my kids age group? We all have them at every club, all we can do is not become the psychos ourselves
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Post by spectator on Sept 11, 2014 14:55:55 GMT -5
Calm down and lets not point any fingers....I could name a few clubs myself with psycho parents, but that may be just my kids age group? We all have them at every club, all we can do is not become the psychos ourselves True. Our point of reference is only what we see. When I see a group of parents, players and a coach at a particular club's team in my child's age group acting like thugs, it could well be just that team not the entire organization. When you see the same group of parents, players and coach at the same team year over year continuing the behavior, that's a club issue not a team issue since it's been allowed. Case in point - and no, I'm not naming the club here - we played a game this weekend against a team my daughter's team has played for three years. In those three years, the players, parents and coach have all been mouthy, rough and downright disrespectful of the game. However, I've seen teams from this club when my daughter has refereed that were not at all like the ones in her age group so that's why I won't name the club. But they need to fix that U15 girls team if they don't want people to assume all their teams are like that. Best thing you can do on your own sidelines is police your own psychos - and have a third party address the psychos on the other team. Call a field marshal or get the ref assignor if they are around - DO. NOT. ENGAGE with parents or players on another team - EVER!! |
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