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Post by SoccerMom on Oct 6, 2020 6:38:38 GMT -5
Planning to graduate high school early and compete for a NCAA Division Championship this spring? Think again. A silver lining of the reshuffling of the college soccer season had been the potential of super recruiting classes that incorporated two high school graduation years. Programs and players were in line to take advantage of the unusual circumstances, and frankly, create an exciting addition to the college game. However, the NCAA Division I Council made an adjustment to the legislation that could create more harm than good. With the updated guidelines for moving the season to the spring and adjusting the number of teams in the postseason tournament, there was also an adjustment for roster construction: “Prohibit midyear enrollees from competing in the 2020-21 academic year.” Any players intending to join for January are still able to, but they won’t be competing in the upcoming spring season unless that adjustment is modified again, which seems unlikely according to a college coach with knowledge of the proposals. www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/colleges-face-roster-challenges-in-spring_aid48573 |
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Post by 04gparent on Oct 6, 2020 9:06:20 GMT -5
Planning to graduate high school early and compete for a NCAA Division Championship this spring? Think again. A silver lining of the reshuffling of the college soccer season had been the potential of super recruiting classes that incorporated two high school graduation years. Programs and players were in line to take advantage of the unusual circumstances, and frankly, create an exciting addition to the college game. However, the NCAA Division I Council made an adjustment to the legislation that could create more harm than good. With the updated guidelines for moving the season to the spring and adjusting the number of teams in the postseason tournament, there was also an adjustment for roster construction: “Prohibit midyear enrollees from competing in the 2020-21 academic year.” Any players intending to join for January are still able to, but they won’t be competing in the upcoming spring season unless that adjustment is modified again, which seems unlikely according to a college coach with knowledge of the proposals. www.topdrawersoccer.com/college-soccer-articles/colleges-face-roster-challenges-in-spring_aid48573Interesting... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 6, 2020 9:45:01 GMT -5
Aside from the international students that have not been allowed in or chose not to come for various reasons, how many seniors will choose to leave early (go pro in NWSL or elsewhere)?? I read this article yesterday and really wondered how many programs this will affect?
As an aside, will this change the colleges' policies of bringing in a lot of international athletes? We talk about this issue as being unprecedented and it is in recent history but this will likely happen more with time as viruses and other infectious diseases become more dangerous. We have had COVID, H1N1, SARS and MERS all within 20 years or so...not to mention Ebola outbreaks. We can expect further problems though hopefully not quite so bad. Who knows though???
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Post by SoccerMom on Oct 7, 2020 6:33:36 GMT -5
International kids did come even to schools with no fall season since they're still training. I know of at least 3 kids.
Some freshman that came in the fall haven't had a chance to even play and then new kids could potentially come in and could take their place.
The NCCA is trying to do what they can to keep it fair for the kids, they already gave them an extra year of eligibility.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 7, 2020 7:18:21 GMT -5
International kids did come even to schools with no fall season since they're still training. I know of at least 3 kids. Some freshman that came in the fall haven't had a chance to even play and then new kids could potentially come in and could take their place. The NCCA is trying to do what they can to keep it fair for the kids, they already gave them an extra year of eligibility. I should have been clearer. There are some schools that are low on players due to international students who have chosen not to come. UNC women had 3 who went pro instead because of the uncertainty of the pandemic and how much playing would actually happen. Articles about BC men also stated international students who could not or chose not to come as part of why they opted out this fall. I am sure there are many international students who did come. I agree with you on them trying to be fair to the players already in college. I think it was the right decision. I was questioning why topdrawersoccer made it sound like a bunch of schools would be low on players. How many kids would be wanting to leave early for pro? Seems like that is a small number. Why do they think there will be roster challenges? You have a daughter who is a college freshman right? Does she play in a conference that is competing now? I am skeptical that colleges that carry 28-30+ kids would have roster challenges. Seems crazy to me! |
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Post by SoccerMom on Oct 7, 2020 7:53:35 GMT -5
International kids did come even to schools with no fall season since they're still training. I know of at least 3 kids. Some freshman that came in the fall haven't had a chance to even play and then new kids could potentially come in and could take their place. The NCCA is trying to do what they can to keep it fair for the kids, they already gave them an extra year of eligibility. I should have been clearer. There are some schools that are low on players due to international students who have chosen not to come. UNC women had 3 who went pro instead because of the uncertainty of the pandemic and how much playing would actually happen. Articles about BC men also stated international students who could not or chose not to come as part of why they opted out this fall. I am sure there are many international students who did come. I agree with you on them trying to be fair to the players already in college. I think it was the right decision. I was questioning why topdrawersoccer made it sound like a bunch of schools would be low on players. How many kids would be wanting to leave early for pro? Seems like that is a small number. Why do they think there will be roster challenges? You have a daughter who is a college freshman right? Does she play in a conference that is competing now? I am skeptical that colleges that carry 28-30+ kids would have roster challenges. Seems crazy to me! My daughter is a college freshman whose season was moved to the Spring. They're not playing any games at all only practices so far. She didn't know of any incoming mid year students. I knew of 2 girls that were planning on going to GA State & GA Southern in January and now theyre not. Her team has 28 on the roster I believe, one girl quit the team about a month ago. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 7, 2020 8:07:29 GMT -5
I should have been clearer. There are some schools that are low on players due to international students who have chosen not to come. UNC women had 3 who went pro instead because of the uncertainty of the pandemic and how much playing would actually happen. Articles about BC men also stated international students who could not or chose not to come as part of why they opted out this fall. I am sure there are many international students who did come. I agree with you on them trying to be fair to the players already in college. I think it was the right decision. I was questioning why topdrawersoccer made it sound like a bunch of schools would be low on players. How many kids would be wanting to leave early for pro? Seems like that is a small number. Why do they think there will be roster challenges? You have a daughter who is a college freshman right? Does she play in a conference that is competing now? I am skeptical that colleges that carry 28-30+ kids would have roster challenges. Seems crazy to me! My daughter is a college freshman whose season was moved to the Spring. They're not playing any games at all only practices so far. She didn't know of any incoming mid year students. I knew of 2 girls that were planning on going to GA State & GA Southern in January and now theyre not. Her team has 28 on the roster I believe, one girl quit the team about a month ago. Good luck to your daughter. I hope she gets some game time this spring. 28 seems like they should not have roster challenges even if some seniors decided to leave early. I feel bad for these kids whose lives are turned around by the pandemic. I would not graduate early either if I could not play. At least with their club teams hopefully those girls will get some playoff/showcase time in this spring. I felt like TDS was making that decision to not play early enrollees sound like a bigger issue than it is. I expect there are a number of kids who will opt to take their additional year of eligibility. It seems to me like the bigger challenge will be for 2021 and 2022 high school grads trying to find roster spots. I feel like there won't be enough spots (not too many), but it is hard to predict what will happen going forward. All of the decisions have snowball effects. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Oct 7, 2020 9:31:27 GMT -5
Catching a few more women's college match broadcast this fall and have heard multiple broadcasters mention the 21st Century soccer model. Some effects of the pandemic could be favorable and accelerate a new model for year round collegiate soccer. After a quick google to get an idea of what they were referencing I like the idea. www.21stcenturymodel.org |
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Post by guest on Oct 7, 2020 10:26:44 GMT -5
That model pertains to men only. There have been ideas floated for women, but not a lot of support.
“On this survey, 50% of D I women’s head coaches expressed support for a two-semester season, but only 17 % of D I women’s players indicated support. This compared to over 90% Division I men’s head coaches and 70% of Division I men’s players expressing support on that survey.”
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Post by oraclesfriend on Oct 7, 2020 10:47:05 GMT -5
Catching a few more women's college match broadcast this fall and have heard multiple broadcasters mention the 21st Century soccer model. Some effects of the pandemic could be favorable and accelerate a new model for year round collegiate soccer. After a quick google to get an idea of what they were referencing I like the idea. www.21stcenturymodel.orgI think it could work in favor of the men switching to 2 semester model. I agree that I have heard little on the women's side about this being a goal. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Oct 7, 2020 10:52:06 GMT -5
Interesting to hear that feedback, wonder where the disparity of support lies for men vs women? For what its worth, both broadcast I heard it mentioned were women's matches. Saying the move to spring ncaa championships this season would accelerate the model for both men and women.
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Post by bogan on Oct 7, 2020 12:13:26 GMT -5
Catching a few more women's college match broadcast this fall and have heard multiple broadcasters mention the 21st Century soccer model. Some effects of the pandemic could be favorable and accelerate a new model for year round collegiate soccer. After a quick google to get an idea of what they were referencing I like the idea. www.21stcenturymodel.orgI think it could work in favor of the men switching to 2 semester model. I agree that I have heard little on the women's side about this being a goal. I think you would definitely see better quality soccer if played over 2 semesters. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Oct 7, 2020 12:34:16 GMT -5
A more marketable product as a spring ncaa tournament as well!
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Post by guest on Oct 8, 2020 14:36:42 GMT -5
My theory for why women aren’t interested. Men have a higher chance of soccer after college. Women, not as much. I think women realize that for the most part, college is it for them and they choose to concentrate on their studies. Get the season out of the way so to speak. Time for spring internships for nursing and education.
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