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Feb 23, 2022 13:09:04 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2022 13:09:04 GMT -5
Hope ain't afraid to speak her mind:
"Throughout the entire process, Rapinoe & Morgan were the two most agreeable with USSF and to this day, continue to to accept terms that are nowhere near what we set out to do. They both know this is not a win. They know it’s an easy out of a fight they were never really in."
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USWNT
Feb 23, 2022 13:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 23, 2022 13:15:05 GMT -5
I don’t think Solo is going to be invited to any Christmas parties.
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Feb 23, 2022 13:39:58 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Feb 23, 2022 13:39:58 GMT -5
Hope ain't afraid to speak her mind: "Throughout the entire process, Rapinoe & Morgan were the two most agreeable with USSF and to this day, continue to to accept terms that are nowhere near what we set out to do. They both know this is not a win. They know it’s an easy out of a fight they were never really in." I tend to agree with her. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Feb 23, 2022 15:31:58 GMT -5
I hate that USSF settled honestly. I know it probably would have cost them more in legal fees, but the whole way the USWNT players went at the argument was disingenuous and dishonest, and ESPN and other media gave them cover because it was the "woke" narrative. The statistics and accounting of what the women got was better % wise than the men got % wise. I have said this before and I'll say it again. The Women's world cup and Women's tournaments don't bring in the ad dollars, media dollars, or prize dollars the men do. That may be unfair, but it doesn't make it any less true. If we give dollar for dollar same money between the men and women we are essentially subsidizing the USWNT. Again I may be a jerk for stating that, but it doesn't make it less true. If you are ok with subsidizing the USWNT then I guess its a win, but that is basically socialistic in nature policy wise. The WNBA should sue someone now for equal pay to the NBA....  |
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USWNT
Feb 23, 2022 16:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Feb 23, 2022 16:05:52 GMT -5
I thought you get paid through your club team and you play for national pride for your country. It seems reverse for women in they expect to become rich off playing for the national team. And why is the women’s pro league subsidized? Shouldn’t all their matches be sold out because women’s soccer is so great and has so many supporters? On another note, I would really like to see diversity on the women’s national team. I’m tired of seeing the same color faces.
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USWNT
Feb 23, 2022 16:34:54 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2022 16:34:54 GMT -5
The subsidizing had to do a lot with the allocated players for the nwsl. I could be wrong, it made it possible for these players to be paid in the nwsl.
however, these women basically become professional national team players.
yea, the thing that never made sense was the women had different per diem's i believe and other things like that. I don't recall all the details.
but with out the subsidizing, now sure how the nwsl will thrive. I would think it's barely holding on now.
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USWNT
Feb 23, 2022 17:57:03 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 23, 2022 17:57:03 GMT -5
Was the goal to be paid what the men would have been paid had the men won the world cup?
USSF shouldn't be subsidizing NWSL any more than they do MLS IMO. (especially not since the settlement)
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USWNT
Feb 23, 2022 18:14:36 GMT -5
Post by Soccerhouse on Feb 23, 2022 18:14:36 GMT -5
Was the goal to be paid what the men would have been paid had the men won the world cup? USSF shouldn't be subsidizing NWSL any more than they do MLS IMO.
yea, not sure how that's possible. I think I read the men's world cup makes like 5 billion, and the women's is like 75 million...... (as always could be wrong) |
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USWNT
Feb 24, 2022 10:04:58 GMT -5
Post by soccerloafer on Feb 24, 2022 10:04:58 GMT -5
1. Decline the same contract offered to men (pay to play v. steady pay)
2. Make more money then men
3. Sue for discrimination. Lose.
4. Again decline the same contract offered to men.
5. Settle for back pay and future promises.
I'm not sure this is how I want my kids - sons or daughters - acting. Not a very ethical business practice.
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USWNT
Feb 24, 2022 10:28:27 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 24, 2022 10:28:27 GMT -5
Did I hear that last year alone, US Soccer spent $20 million to fight this lawsuit? Will that attorney bill spread out over 4 years like the $24 million settlement?
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USWNT
Feb 24, 2022 10:37:10 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on Feb 24, 2022 10:37:10 GMT -5
Was the goal to be paid what the men would have been paid had the men won the world cup? USSF shouldn't be subsidizing NWSL any more than they do MLS IMO.
yea, not sure how that's possible. I think I read the men's world cup makes like 5 billion, and the women's is like 75 million...... (as always could be wrong) No you are very close. In the 2015 women's wc total generated was $75 million. In 2019, the total prize money was doubled from $15 million to $30 million. Prize money for winners was $4 million. In the 2018 men's wc, total generated was $6 billion. In 2018, the total prize money was $400 million and prize money for winners was $38 million. |
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USWNT
Feb 24, 2022 11:33:18 GMT -5
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 24, 2022 11:33:18 GMT -5
Maybe they should create incentive for the USWNT to support the USMNT in the CBA. If the men make the world cup and USSF get that $30M bonus, then should the women should make the WWC, they would make what the men make (because USSF has more money).
So the women would get a higher payout if USSF get bonus $ from FIFA, which can then pay them roughly what the men make (and the men would have to agree to take a pay cut if thats the case).
However, it would flow the other way also, if the USMNT NOT make the WC, then they would get paid some of the USWNT world cup bonus.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 24, 2022 11:49:19 GMT -5
Did I hear that last year alone, US Soccer spent $20 million to fight this lawsuit? Will that attorney bill spread out over 4 years like the $24 million settlement? Yeah that's what they said on the broadcast last night, I almost choked when I heard it. Good grief. |
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USWNT
Feb 24, 2022 13:02:02 GMT -5
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Post by flix on Feb 24, 2022 13:02:02 GMT -5
“Protect Trans Kids”?
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 24, 2022 19:49:58 GMT -5
Texas is telling doctors, nurses and teachers that they have to report any "gender affirming" care to their department of child services so the parents will be arrested for child abuse. This includes any hormone treatments on any child under 18. There is ample data that if you refuse to provide gender affirming care to a child that wants it after appropriate psychological evaluation, those children are at increased risk of suicide. Alabama is considering a similar bill and Florida has the "Don't say Gay" bill. Whatever your feelings are on transgender folks charging the parents with child abuse and removing these kids from their homes and charging teacher, doctors and nurses if they don't report this supposed abuse is a bit of an overreach. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 18, 2022 8:58:28 GMT -5
Hopefully, we can now return to just playing the beautiful game...
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May 18, 2022 9:53:52 GMT -5
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Post by flix on May 18, 2022 9:53:52 GMT -5
Hopefully, we can now return to just playing the beautiful game... I hope Bill Burr has an opinion on this. |
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USWNT
May 18, 2022 10:14:28 GMT -5
Post by atlfutboldad on May 18, 2022 10:14:28 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how this affects the men.
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 18, 2022 10:18:58 GMT -5
Its not clear, but this paragraph was written for women, are we to assume the men will receive this same compensation package?
Women’s union projections have compensation for a player who has been under contract to increase 34% from 2018 to this year, from $245,000 to $327,000. The 2023-28 average annual pay would be $450,000 for a player making all rosters, with the possibility of doubling the figure in World Cup years depending on results.
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