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Post by soccerspin on Nov 3, 2020 16:35:09 GMT -5
Is this really true? An event traditionally held in May is now going to be held two months from now???
Round robin - 1/16-1/18 Semis/Finals - 1/23-1/24
U15 - U19 girls and boys
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Post by atlfutboldad on Nov 3, 2020 17:08:54 GMT -5
Taking one from Georgia Soccer's new playbook, yeah.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 3, 2020 17:23:41 GMT -5
Is this really true? An event traditionally held in May is now going to be held two months from now??? Round robin - 1/16-1/18 Semis/Finals - 1/23-1/24 U15 - U19 girls and boys Yep. Our coach told me about this a few weeks ago, but SCCL is now confirming it. However, I wasn't aware that it's only U15-U19? Notice those are the age groups that don't play a spring season due to high school soccer, so makes me think they want to squeeze this in before kids move on to their HS teams. Just wonder if they'll have an SCCL Cup for U12-U14 in May?
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 3, 2020 20:39:37 GMT -5
Unfortunately our club was not given a heads up. But to be honest, I’m not sure a few weeks makes a difference here. We really would’ve needed to know this was a possibility (even if not firm) by August or early September at the latest. As it stands, we already have a few players who cannot make those dates. And for our team, January is typically a dead month thus people (families AND coaches) make other plans if not told in advance to hold open the dates - especially when one of those dates falls over a holiday weekend.
We were looking forward to playing SCCL Cup...in May. Just not sure we can swing it in January so this is disappointing news.
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Post by lsagoalie on Nov 3, 2020 20:46:15 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see turnout. Agree, very late notice and some clubs like LSA have no field access in January and don’t even start practicing for spring until end of January so they will no be participating in the SCCL premier bracket
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Post by Keeper on Nov 3, 2020 23:54:02 GMT -5
Unfortunately our club was not given a heads up. But to be honest, I’m not sure a few weeks makes a difference here. We really would’ve needed to know this was a possibility (even if not firm) by August or early September at the latest. As it stands, we already have a few players who cannot make those dates. And for our team, January is typically a dead month thus people (families AND coaches) make other plans if not told in advance to hold open the dates - especially when one of those dates falls over a holiday weekend. We were looking forward to playing SCCL Cup...in May. Just not sure we can swing it in January so this is disappointing news. Just curious what level is your team? As we were told for C2C and Premier 1 levels this is not optional.
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Post by atlutd17 on Nov 4, 2020 9:52:42 GMT -5
Taking one from Georgia Soccer's new playbook, yeah. Looks like it with one small (or big) difference depending how you look at it: Ga Soccer has spread it, and won't play 3 games in three days. SCCL Cup will play 3 games during MLK weekend, and 3-80'or90' games back to back was something many coaches had been wanting to get away from. Unless they plan to play Friday as well to spread it over 4 days and use a day in between as rest day, which I think would be good.
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 4, 2020 10:30:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately our club was not given a heads up. But to be honest, I’m not sure a few weeks makes a difference here. We really would’ve needed to know this was a possibility (even if not firm) by August or early September at the latest. As it stands, we already have a few players who cannot make those dates. And for our team, January is typically a dead month thus people (families AND coaches) make other plans if not told in advance to hold open the dates - especially when one of those dates falls over a holiday weekend. We were looking forward to playing SCCL Cup...in May. Just not sure we can swing it in January so this is disappointing news. Just curious what level is your team? As we were told for C2C and Premier 1 levels this is not optional. You’ve got to be kidding me. A non-optional tournament that is sprung on its members two months out? Again, one that has been traditionally held in May thus the weekends we had already set aside. We’re SCCL-C
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Post by baller84 on Nov 4, 2020 11:00:49 GMT -5
Teams The SCCL Cup is an Unrestricted Tournament. Roster limits: 15U-18U/19U = 26 players maximum Format Two Tournament Divisions Cup Championship: All teams are eligible to enter. Premier Championship: SCCL Premier level teams are eligible to enter. If needed, play-in games will be completed January 3rd-12th to determine bracket play. This will be determined once registration closes. Teams will be notified if they will have a play-in game. Round Robin games will be played January 16th, 17th, and 18th. Semi Finals will be played on January 23rd. Finals will be played on January 24th. USYSA Rules with (3) games minimum. Match Duration: 15U-18U/19U = 2 x 40 minute halves Thank you for supporting the 2021 SCCL Cup tournament hosted by the Southeastern Clubs Champions League.
For more information, contact: Rachel Hobson Kurilec 2021 SCCL Cup Administrator RachelHobson@ConcordeFire.com
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Post by ga3v3 on Nov 4, 2020 12:26:08 GMT -5
Every tournament is optional in youth soccer. All the parents have to do is say NO
Which by the way is something that we should say much more often
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 4, 2020 13:01:54 GMT -5
Agree. Our club confirmed this is optional.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Nov 4, 2020 13:22:57 GMT -5
Must be in a different situation if you're in too many tournaments.
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Post by Keeper on Nov 4, 2020 13:35:07 GMT -5
Just curious what level is your team? As we were told for C2C and Premier 1 levels this is not optional. You’ve got to be kidding me. A non-optional tournament that is sprung on its members two months out? Again, one that has been traditionally held in May thus the weekends we had already set aside. We’re SCCL-C Nope we were all told in June that we would do this and they were not sure of when it was. Honestly we were hoping it would be between Christmas and New Years like the old Disney days. So one year of this event makes it a yearly tradition? It’s only been played ONCE. And yes all tournaments are “optional” to attend but mandatory to pay for it if you want to play for that club and team.
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 4, 2020 15:28:16 GMT -5
You’ve got to be kidding me. A non-optional tournament that is sprung on its members two months out? Again, one that has been traditionally held in May thus the weekends we had already set aside. We’re SCCL-C Nope we were all told in June that we would do this and they were not sure of when it was. Honestly we were hoping it would be between Christmas and New Years like the old Disney days. So one year of this event makes it a yearly tradition? It’s only been played ONCE. And yes all tournaments are “optional” to attend but mandatory to pay for it if you want to play for that club and team. Played once and scheduled to play again this past May which had to be cancelled. Isn’t that also the same amount of time SCCL has been in existence? So why else would we think it would be a different time of year? Glad to hear some of you were given a heads up back in June, or whenever, that this was likely to be played during the winter, but we received ZERO notice. What do you mean by “mandatory to pay for it?” Our team pays its tournament fees on its own - when we decide to do them. It is not handled through the club. OR do you mean the $895 fee was already included somewhere in our SCCL fees? Bottom line is if the desire was to have as many teams as possible play in this tournament, then the soccer community at large should’ve been told of this potential date change back at the beginning of this season.
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Post by mightydawg on Nov 4, 2020 15:31:18 GMT -5
Other than money, what is the point of the SCCL Cup? Isn't determining the best SCCL team the point of the regular season?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 4, 2020 15:49:46 GMT -5
Other than money, what is the point of the SCCL Cup? Isn't determining the best SCCL team the point of the regular season? I think you answered your own question. Kinda like the conference tournaments in college b-ball . . . . $$$.
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Post by mightydawg on Nov 4, 2020 16:00:39 GMT -5
Other than money, what is the point of the SCCL Cup? Isn't determining the best SCCL team the point of the regular season? I think you answered your own question. Kinda like the conference tournaments in college b-ball . . . . $$$. Except, college basketball ties the automatic NCAA bid to winning the conference tournament. Does winning SCCL Cup guarantee a place at nationals?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Nov 4, 2020 16:15:06 GMT -5
I think you answered your own question. Kinda like the conference tournaments in college b-ball . . . . $$$. Except, college basketball ties the automatic NCAA bid to winning the conference tournament. Does winning SCCL Cup guarantee a place at nationals? Sure, but the winners of the big conference tourneys generally don't need to win it to get in. Sometimes a good run in the conf. tourney puts a bubble team into the tourney, I will say that (and it seems like those teams always lose in the 1st round, hence the reason they were a bubble team to begin with, but I digress . . . .). In year 1 of SCCL, no it did not. The results of the fall SCCL season determined who went to nationals. Year 2 was cancelled due to Covid. Year 3 - guess we'll see?
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 9, 2020 10:59:37 GMT -5
Does anyone know the answer to the question asked earlier in this thread?
“Does winning SCCL Cup guarantee a place at nationals?”
There’s no indication on the tourney website this is possible.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Nov 9, 2020 12:19:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know the answer to the question asked earlier in this thread? “Does winning SCCL Cup guarantee a place at nationals?” There’s no indication on the tourney website this is possible. No. Not unless they changed the rules. That goes to regular season champ.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Nov 10, 2020 8:16:01 GMT -5
I'm a little irritated because all previous season all the older kids even did this in May and June. We have several kids on my son's team (my son included) that signed up to play Futsal and do Futsal training all winter. They had a team that was going to the Regional Futsal tournament in Charlotte on that weekend. So now they have to choose their outdoor team to play in a tournament their team is likely not going to win or having a fun trip to Charlotte with their futsal team. I think they will have to choose their outdoor team and if they do then that basically screws their Futsal team not having enough kids to go to the Charlotte tournament.
I wish SCCL would get their act together on stuff like this and make sure dates are published and posted well in advance so families can make an informed decision on what their family and kids can do.
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Post by soccerspin on Nov 11, 2020 16:46:15 GMT -5
If someone could confirm the following (or better yet provide a link where this is documented somewhere) that would be great...
Regular season division winner has a slot at Nationals (and fee paid for)
Regular season division runner up has their Regional fee paid for
SCCL Cup division winner has their Regional fee paid for
Regionals is open to any US Club team who wants to play. You do not have to go through SCCL Cup to play in it.
Is this correct?
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Post by greenmonkey on Nov 12, 2020 17:22:15 GMT -5
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