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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 8:43:08 GMT -5
How good is the 01 GSA ECNL team? they look really good on paper, never seen them play.
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Post by kick on Aug 25, 2014 9:00:35 GMT -5
They are very good. My daughters team plays them regularly. Her team used to always win but not anymore. GSA has done a good job of recruiting and building that team. The only question mark I see is that they have 5 out of state girls on the team that aren't able to practice during the week. It will be interesting to see if that affects team chemistry at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 9:06:10 GMT -5
wow! 5 out of state players! that is nuts! what sucks is being at club like that since you were 7, then girls from 150 miles away decide to play for the club, can' train regularly, but take your spot on the ecnl team. but thats life!
so do you think they play athena/classic in what ever state they play for then their 2nd team is the ecnl team?
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Post by spectator on Aug 25, 2014 10:08:34 GMT -5
You would think that GA Soccer would prohibit non Georgia residents from being part of the program or at least charge non residents an added fee?
Regardless, at 13 years old, to me it's ridiculous to go to another state so your kid can play ENCL. They are 13 - eighth graders. Yes, some colleges will ID exceptional players when they are that young but come on, are these five out of state players really that exceptional that their parents are leaving their own state when there are ECNL clubs there? I'm assuming this is from SC since that's the most geographically convenient state to Gwinnett County. CESA is also an ECNL Club and even if you lived on the border of SC and GA, driving to Greenville is closer than driving to Lilburn. Sounds to me like some parents are drinking the ECNL Kool Aid early.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 25, 2014 10:27:47 GMT -5
anyone know if the same thing is happening at afu and concorde?
i'm assuming this happens for DA also??
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Post by fan on Aug 25, 2014 11:20:19 GMT -5
You would think that GA Soccer would prohibit non Georgia residents from being part of the program or at least charge non residents an added fee? Regardless, at 13 years old, to me it's ridiculous to go to another state so your kid can play ENCL. They are 13 - eighth graders. Yes, some colleges will ID exceptional players when they are that young but come on, are these five out of state players really that exceptional that their parents are leaving their own state when there are ECNL clubs there? I'm assuming this is from SC since that's the most geographically convenient state to Gwinnett County. CESA is also an ECNL Club and even if you lived on the border of SC and GA, driving to Greenville is closer than driving to Lilburn. Sounds to me like some parents are drinking the ECNL Kool Aid early. I too think it sounds crazy for players to come from out of state to play ECNL. If the girls are practicing year round like most ECNL teams seem to do and they're traveling more than the local players, when do these kids have time to do anything else?? Even crazier, I heard one's from Florida so it's more of a drive than coming from SC. On the U14 national team roster, it lists a U14 CF player from Alabama. I haven't heard if AFU has out-of-state players too. I don't think GA Soccer has a say in out-of-state players. I think ECNL players are rostered completely separately from GA Soccer (unless they're rostered on an ECNL team and an Athena team but that's a whole other discussion). Fortunately for GSA and CF players who've been there since they were little but didn't make the top team, those clubs have a team in A so there's another good option for them.
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Post by stevieg on Aug 25, 2014 12:26:56 GMT -5
You would think that GA Soccer would prohibit non Georgia residents from being part of the program or at least charge non residents an added fee? Regardless, at 13 years old, to me it's ridiculous to go to another state so your kid can play ENCL. They are 13 - eighth graders. Yes, some colleges will ID exceptional players when they are that young but come on, are these five out of state players really that exceptional that their parents are leaving their own state when there are ECNL clubs there? I'm assuming this is from SC since that's the most geographically convenient state to Gwinnett County. CESA is also an ECNL Club and even if you lived on the border of SC and GA, driving to Greenville is closer than driving to Lilburn. Sounds to me like some parents are drinking the ECNL Kool Aid early. 2 are from TN and 2 are from FL. I think the 5th is from AL.
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Post by dreaddy on Aug 25, 2014 15:00:49 GMT -5
A) Ga Soccer has nothing to do with ECNL. ECNL teams can register whomever they want from wherever they want.
B) Ga Soccer has an agreement with several other Region III states which allows players from another state to register with a Ga team (or vice-versa) without any special paperwork having to be done. SC and NC have not signed on to that agreement.
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Post by weekendwarrior on Aug 25, 2014 15:41:41 GMT -5
Are the 01's the current u13 or u14 team? Current U13 seem to be running hit or miss right now. Regardless, seems to me that whether you play ECNL or RPL the competition level continues to increase as you make it further along. I just hope that this splitting of the talent pool,to some extent, does not eventually hurt the USWNT. And for those of you who think one is better than the other in terms of potential collegiate play...if your girl has talent she will be noticed in either group, and if you want her to go to a specific college further away that a state or two, I would suggest looking into those specific colleges camps and send your tapes in to the coaches. Don't rely on the possibility that a scout "might" be at this or that tournament. Or on the fact that if they are your daughter will have the perfect game.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 25, 2014 17:19:43 GMT -5
the 01s are the current u14 team
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Post by lovethegame on Aug 25, 2014 20:34:33 GMT -5
wow! 5 out of state players! that is nuts! what sucks is being at club like that since you were 7, then girls from 150 miles away decide to play for the club, can' train regularly, but take your spot on the ecnl team. but thats life! so do you think they play athena/classic in what ever state they play for then their 2nd team is the ecnl team? I am with you. Wow. Five eighth graders playing soccer in another state. I just wonder where we are headed with all of this. I see more and more girls willing to travel unbelievable distances to be part of ECNL. When I first heard of destination clubs I envisioned clubs attracting the best players a hundred miles within each direction of the club. It's far beyond that. I don't know where the five girls train and play. Just two from each team are "discovery players", meaning they can be rostered with another team as their primary team and the ECNL team as their second team Maybe they "guest" for their local team. Who knows. So, when do these kids study? In reality, no matter how good you are at 13 or 14, the liklihood is, an academic scholarship is going to be an important component of the package. Plus, how burned out are you at 18 when you have spent your entire high school years in a car. Thesee kids often just plug on because it's what they've always done. One day they wake up and start to wonder if they really love the game.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 25, 2014 21:34:47 GMT -5
If the kids can't train, then you have to question the legitimacy of them being rostered. Anyone know if they played this past weekend.
I get it, they are getting an opportunity that probably isn't otherwise available to him
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Post by lovethegame on Aug 26, 2014 8:10:02 GMT -5
If the kids can't train, then you have to question the legitimacy of them being rostered. Anyone know if they played this past weekend. I get it, they are getting an opportunity that probably isn't otherwise available to him I would say that any player who lives much more than 100 miles from the Ecnl club can't train with the team on a regular basis. In Atlanta it's probably quite a bit less than 100 miles, depending on traffic. At U14 there is one event, and it's in the spring in Greenville, SC. This year the teams can play one extra event at two of the Ecnl Showcases (Dallas and Phoenix or San Diego, I've forgotten which two for sure). Things may have changed, but even with a player on the national pool, we rarely saw a college coach at any of our games at u14. They began showing up at u15, mostly to watch her. The big year for coaches was u16 and u17. So, I am not sure how much exposure thes girls will get. Ecnl is a great league. Is it better for an individual player's development than the Premier League or Athena A? I don't know, and would say it really depends on the player. At this age some players are going to develop a whole lot more with good coaching, consistent training and time on the field during games. There are many good choices in Atlanta. Parents need to go where there daughter has the greatest opportunity to develop, and, at 14, that may not be on an Ecnl team. Most of all, for girls, you have to keep in some of the fun and the social aspects, especially at this age. Don't turn it into a job too soon. With Ecnl, and the Premier League, the intensity level will increase fast enough. Think hard before you put your eighth grader in a car to drive two hours practice. Look at your local options. If your child is good enough Ecnl will be an option at U15 and even older. You have plenty of opportunity to spend your time and money once they get onto high school. That's just the opinion of someone who has spent the last four years with Ecnl, but at a local club. I wouldn't trade our experience, and my daughter is a much better player because of it, but we are all more than ready to see it end and move onto our next life. I say that because soccer will be your life for a long time.
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Post by rifle on Aug 26, 2014 20:09:52 GMT -5
Plenty of time to study in the car (dad's airplane?)
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Post by lovethegame on Aug 27, 2014 6:09:08 GMT -5
Plenty of time to study in the car (dad's airplane?) I guess you are right. But, I would say again that there is plenty of time to play Ecnl and spending five studying in a car is necessarily the best idea for many kids. We are winding down. As a senior, my daughter has played Ecnl for five years, and she is happy it is coming to an end. I see it most other girls and parents on her team. It is their life for many years. They miss homecoming, football games, spring break trips, time with friends. . .As with any high level sport, there are sacrifices. I am just saying, weigh the need to begin too soon to travel long distances for practice. No matter how good they are at 14 you want them to still love the sport at 18 and beyond. Don't get me wrong, I am a supporter of Ecnl. There is great completion and exposure. It has made my daughter a better player and she will play for a smaller D1 program. But, she doesn't travel to practice and still misses out on a whole lot. With all of the traveling we do on the weekends, it is just hard for me to imagine being in a car on the weekdays. For her, it never would have worked. For some, it does. Just be sure when you decide that traveling two hours to practice in eighth grade is the right idea, you are sure that she is one of those kids it works for. I am not telling anyone not to do Ecnl, I am just saying that Ecnl will still be around for your chile once they get to high school.
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Post by rifle on Aug 27, 2014 18:39:46 GMT -5
Plenty of time to study in the car (dad's airplane?) I guess you are right. But, I would say again that there is plenty of time to play Ecnl and spending five studying in a car is necessarily the best idea for many kids. We are winding down. As a senior, my daughter has played Ecnl for five years, and she is happy it is coming to an end. I see it most other girls and parents on her team. It is their life for many years. They miss homecoming, football games, spring break trips, time with friends. . .As with any high level sport, there are sacrifices. I am just saying, weigh the need to begin too soon to travel long distances for practice. No matter how good they are at 14 you want them to still love the sport at 18 and beyond. Don't get me wrong, I am a supporter of Ecnl. There is great completion and exposure. It has made my daughter a better player and she will play for a smaller D1 program. But, she doesn't travel to practice and still misses out on a whole lot. With all of the traveling we do on the weekends, it is just hard for me to imagine being in a car on the weekdays. For her, it never would have worked. For some, it does. Just be sure when you decide that traveling two hours to practice in eighth grade is the right idea, you are sure that she is one of those kids it works for. I am not telling anyone not to do Ecnl, I am just saying that Ecnl will still be around for your chile once they get to high school. My comment was purely tongue in cheek. I think it's absurd to travel like that except possibly if you have zero options at home. On a related note, I think Savannah and Augusta teams are crazy too. If I lived there and the only choice for quality soccer was "Georgia soccer" (driving to Atlanta 15 weekends per year) .. My kids would be playing golf.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Aug 27, 2014 20:49:12 GMT -5
On a related note, I think Savannah and Augusta teams are crazy too. If I lived there and the only choice for quality soccer was "Georgia soccer" (driving to Atlanta 15 weekends per year) .. My kids would be playing golf. Quote of the year!!
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