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Post by sirlonz on Dec 3, 2020 15:55:10 GMT -5
So going into spring it looks like the situation for schools may not be any better. Is there a real chance that high school sophomores may not have a season for the second year in a row?!? If so do any clubs have anything planned for the U16&U17 players who fall under this category?
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Dec 3, 2020 16:40:00 GMT -5
So going into spring it looks like the situation for schools may not be any better. Is there a real chance that high school sophomores may not have a season for the second year in a row?!? If so do any clubs have anything planned for the U16&U17 players who fall under this category? Look if High School Football can for the most part get through the season (which it did) then if they cancel spring sports it would be hypocritical and show that the almighty dollar and popularity was the only reason they allowed Football to go on and not other sports. I think by Spring everything will be trending better, and we will have a season. It will be my kid's freshman year, so he is excited providing he makes the team, which I think he will at least the JV squad. Our club is doing an informal SCCL spring season of friendlies that if my son has time he will go back and play with his team throughout the spring when it doesn't conflict with High School. So if you are in a SCCL club they do have a Spring friendly season. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Dec 3, 2020 17:18:12 GMT -5
I just saw something in a Facebook Fulton County group where FCS may be putting a hold on preseason conditioning, but I haven't been able to verify it myself nor seen anything official.
Regarding the season, as long as schools are still open I think they will play and the coaches are going about it like they are until told otherwise. Generally they are starting earlier this year. Last year the season ended towards the end of the JV season, we missed out on 3 games so our Freshmen played.
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Post by jkdub1 on Dec 3, 2020 17:40:42 GMT -5
So going into spring it looks like the situation for schools may not be any better. Is there a real chance that high school sophomores may not have a season for the second year in a row?!? If so do any clubs have anything planned for the U16&U17 players who fall under this category? Look if High School Football can for the most part get through the season (which it did) then if they cancel spring sports it would be hypocritical and show that the almighty dollar and popularity was the only reason they allowed Football to go on and not other sports. I think by Spring everything will be trending better, and we will have a season. It will be my kid's freshman year, so he is excited providing he makes the team, which I think he will at least the JV squad. Our club is doing an informal SCCL spring season of friendlies that if my son has time he will go back and play with his team throughout the spring when it doesn't conflict with High School. So if you are in a SCCL club they do have a Spring friendly season. From what I'm seeing here in Tennessee it's all about the almighty dollar and popularity. My kid kicks for the football team and plays on the soccer team so I can give ya some anecdotal evidence. The football players trained pretty much all summer, including indoor weight training. During the season the entire squad, coaches and trainers got quarantined twice and missed 4 weeks of school BUT they were able to finish the season. On the Monday following the last Friday night football game, the soccer team was told there would be no training indoor or outdoor until after the Christmas holiday. So yeah... |
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Post by bogan on Dec 3, 2020 17:44:00 GMT -5
Look if High School Football can for the most part get through the season (which it did) then if they cancel spring sports it would be hypocritical and show that the almighty dollar and popularity was the only reason they allowed Football to go on and not other sports. I think by Spring everything will be trending better, and we will have a season. It will be my kid's freshman year, so he is excited providing he makes the team, which I think he will at least the JV squad. Our club is doing an informal SCCL spring season of friendlies that if my son has time he will go back and play with his team throughout the spring when it doesn't conflict with High School. So if you are in a SCCL club they do have a Spring friendly season. From what I'm seeing here in Tennessee it's all about the almighty dollar and popularity. My kid kicks for the football team and plays on the soccer team so I can give ya some anecdotal evidence. The football players trained pretty much all summer, including indoor weight training. During the season the entire squad, coaches and trainers got quarantined twice and missed 4 weeks of school BUT they were able to finish the season. On the Monday following the last Friday night football game, the soccer team was told there would be no training indoor or outdoor until after the Christmas holiday. So yeah... Sounds about right... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 3, 2020 18:18:59 GMT -5
We have not heard anything about holding up spring sports at our school. Emails still going out to soccer, track and tennis. Hopefully it will all happen
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Post by guest on Dec 3, 2020 22:21:47 GMT -5
See my adjacent thread about return to sports tracker developed by team snap. Georgia is very high confidence right now in this admittedly unscientific survey.
Also my son trained for football in the summer in small groups that were slowly relaxed as the numbers dropped coming out of the summer. He lettered as a freshman in 7A Gwinnett, which was pretty cool.
Main sport though is Lacrosse and before school conditioning is already underway. 6am on the track. Soccer and baseball train after school.
Really hope we get spring sports in this time around. Would really suck for this year’s seniors who missed out on most of their junior year, summer ID camps, most meaningful fall games and showcases and very little recruiting allowed.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 3, 2020 22:54:00 GMT -5
As of now I’ve heard that Fulton and Dekalb are delaying the start of spring sports at least two weeks. Though this was done for winter sports too so it’s more catch up. Cobb and Gwinnett could follow suit or lose a lot of early non region games.
The season I believe will get played but I wouldn’t expect playoffs to start till closer to Mother’s Day now.
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Post by nole95 on Dec 4, 2020 17:07:30 GMT -5
Full steam ahead in Forsyth county at the moment. Nothing from our coach about any delays. Although we did lose a game this week that was scheduled against Alpharetta in March. Could be that if Fulton is delaying things, those schools are having to reshuffle the schedule.
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Post by parent2000 on Dec 4, 2020 23:37:23 GMT -5
Same in Cobb, preseason training underway
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Post by kidsocceruber on Dec 6, 2020 20:15:01 GMT -5
Fulton just halted all preseason conditioning for the remainder of the semester
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Post by guest on Dec 7, 2020 11:10:38 GMT -5
Fulton just halted all preseason conditioning for the remainder of the semester I fear this type of thing is coming to Gwinnett starting in Jan when the new board members take their seats. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 7, 2020 12:10:42 GMT -5
They just need to mandate masks when playing if that will make the authorities feel better (like they have some semblance of control).
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Post by soccerlegacy on Dec 7, 2020 12:29:48 GMT -5
They just need to mandate masks when playing if that will make the authorities feel better (like they have some semblance of control). HA! |
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Post by Keeper on Dec 7, 2020 14:48:20 GMT -5
They just need to mandate masks when playing if that will make the authorities feel better (like they have some semblance of control). I’d rather them cancel all Hs soccer this spring. Means as a club coach I get another season with my players! Haha I’ll take a 7v7 / 9v9 Hs aged club season over the crap rec ball played on the Hs fields. |
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Post by SoccerFirst on Dec 7, 2020 16:16:54 GMT -5
They just need to mandate masks when playing if that will make the authorities feel better (like they have some semblance of control). I’d rather them cancel all Hs soccer this spring. Means as a club coach I get another season with my players! Haha I’ll take a 7v7 / 9v9 Hs aged club season over the crap rec ball played on the Hs fields. I’m sorry to see that your child’s high school has not taken the time to hire a coach that the student-athletes at his/her school deserve. Not sure which school or region/classification you are having to watch but I can assure you that the level played at many schools, mine included, is higher than rec. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 7, 2020 20:54:18 GMT -5
I’d rather them cancel all Hs soccer this spring. Means as a club coach I get another season with my players! Haha I’ll take a 7v7 / 9v9 Hs aged club season over the crap rec ball played on the Hs fields. I’m sorry to see that your child’s high school has not taken the time to hire a coach that the student-athletes at his/her school deserve. Not sure which school or region/classification you are having to watch but I can assure you that the level played at many schools, mine included, is higher than rec. What I've seen is higher than rec.. sometimes even decent. Nowhere near an ECNL/GA kind of level, though. |
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Post by Keeper on Dec 7, 2020 23:07:26 GMT -5
I’d rather them cancel all Hs soccer this spring. Means as a club coach I get another season with my players! Haha I’ll take a 7v7 / 9v9 Hs aged club season over the crap rec ball played on the Hs fields. I’m sorry to see that your child’s high school has not taken the time to hire a coach that the student-athletes at his/her school deserve. Not sure which school or region/classification you are having to watch but I can assure you that the level played at many schools, mine included, is higher than rec. Not just mine but nearly my entire Hs aged club team. I think out of the 7 HS my players go to maybe one have a quality Coach that does more then 442 boom ball over the top coaching. Though with more and more money being poured into Hs soccer it’s bringing in true professional licensed coaches. |
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Post by coffee on Dec 8, 2020 4:37:30 GMT -5
I don’t know much about the coaching level in HS yet, but Cambridge HS, and Marist have great varsity girls coaches; and their rosters are full of ECNL, NL, and SCCL-C players. I’ve heard from my niece that Dunwoody HS will be stacked with ECNL players this year.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 8, 2020 8:43:37 GMT -5
I don’t know much about the coaching level in HS yet, but Cambridge HS, and Marist have great varsity girls coaches; and their rosters are full of ECNL, NL, and SCCL-C players. I’ve heard from my niece that Dunwoody HS will be stacked with ECNL players this year. My experience has been that even when there are high quality players there is still sometimes poor quality soccer. It is sometimes just the style of play and tactics that are the problem. No doubt that there are some really good teams in the area though. It is nice to watch when good teams face off. |
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Post by SoccerFirst on Dec 8, 2020 22:23:02 GMT -5
I’m sorry to see that your child’s high school has not taken the time to hire a coach that the student-athletes at his/her school deserve. Not sure which school or region/classification you are having to watch but I can assure you that the level played at many schools, mine included, is higher than rec. Not just mine but nearly my entire Hs aged club team. I think out of the 7 HS my players go to maybe one have a quality Coach that does more then 442 boom ball over the top coaching. Though with more and more money being poured into Hs soccer it’s bringing in true professional licensed coaches. I’m not sure where you coach or which HS your players go to, but I’d have to assume they aren’t Gwinnett Co HS players. Just some of the teams I’m familiar with playing, North Gwinnett, Peachtree Ridge, Parkview, Brookwood, Collins Hill, Mill Creek, Buford... I’d have to check some others websites to see coaches and bios, but just those alone all have coaches on at least the girls side, if not, girls and boys side that coach club or have coached club. What you may not be taking into account, at public schools, coaches get what they get, they can’t really recruit. Some coaches are lucky and have a consistent stream of players and a healthy pool to pull from. Most schools are fortunate if they have a strong 11 and don’t drop off too much after 2-3 subs. Depth is always a problem in high school sports. My point is, if I have a weak midfield, I might look to miss them out, especially if I’m up against a strong midfield... like say when Grayson was stacked a few years back with multiple future ACC, SEC midfielders/forwards. Unfortunately, some coaches like long ball, but let’s not pretend it only occurs in high school soccer... ever watch the EPL, it’s kinda their thing. My last point, most high school coaches are concerned with 1 thing... winning. Club coaches tend to focus more on “development” or at least that’s what they tell parents. If it’s raining or I’m out matched, you better believe I’m telling my players, we don’t look to possess out of the back, we possess on THEIR side. Just a few thoughts from someone that has played and coached both club and high school soccer. |
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Post by Keeper on Dec 8, 2020 22:48:20 GMT -5
Not just mine but nearly my entire Hs aged club team. I think out of the 7 HS my players go to maybe one have a quality Coach that does more then 442 boom ball over the top coaching. Though with more and more money being poured into Hs soccer it’s bringing in true professional licensed coaches. I’m not sure where you coach or which HS your players go to, but I’d have to assume they aren’t Gwinnett Co HS players. Just some of the teams I’m familiar with playing, North Gwinnett, Peachtree Ridge, Parkview, Brookwood, Collins Hill, Mill Creek, Buford... I’d have to check some others websites to see coaches and bios, but just those alone all have coaches on at least the girls side, if not, girls and boys side that coach club or have coached club. What you may not be taking into account, at public schools, coaches get what they get, they can’t really recruit. Some coaches are lucky and have a consistent stream of players and a healthy pool to pull from. Most schools are fortunate if they have a strong 11 and don’t drop off too much after 2-3 subs. Depth is always a problem in high school sports. My point is, if I have a weak midfield, I might look to miss them out, especially if I’m up against a strong midfield... like say when Grayson was stacked a few years back with multiple future ACC, SEC midfielders/forwards. Unfortunately, some coaches like long ball, but let’s not pretend it only occurs in high school soccer... ever watch the EPL, it’s kinda their thing. My last point, most high school coaches are concerned with 1 thing... winning. Club coaches tend to focus more on “development” or at least that’s what they tell parents. If it’s raining or I’m out matched, you better believe I’m telling my players, we don’t look to possess out of the back, we possess on THEIR side. Just a few thoughts from someone that has played and coached both club and high school soccer. Actually i am in Gwinnett just not the rich side like you. Though my friends in Cobb have the same issues too with teachers coaching soccer instead of coaches coaching soccer. But a majority of my players are inside the perimeter so they don’t have the luxury of being at those rich schools that are definitely athletics first, academics second. |
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Post by BubbleDad on Dec 8, 2020 23:24:49 GMT -5
With DA going away, there will be more high level players available to play high school. We live in Cobb, this will be my daughter's first year playing HS. Playing in Cobb will be like playing club ... let's just say she and I have been pumping iron to get her physically ready for what's to come. COVID... don't be surprised if the players will have to play with masks if we want to have a season...
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Post by bogan on Dec 9, 2020 5:48:32 GMT -5
With DA going away, there will be more high level players available to play high school. We live in Cobb, this will be my daughter's first year playing HS. Playing in Cobb will be like playing club ... let's just say she and I have been pumping iron to get her physically ready for what's to come. COVID... don't be surprised if the players will have to play with masks if we want to have a season... I wouldn’t be surprised-and it’s highly likely-because the CDC changed their guidelines (again) and stated that masks should be worn even during strenuous physical activity... |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 9, 2020 8:24:58 GMT -5
With DA going away, there will be more high level players available to play high school. We live in Cobb, this will be my daughter's first year playing HS. Playing in Cobb will be like playing club ... let's just say she and I have been pumping iron to get her physically ready for what's to come. COVID... don't be surprised if the players will have to play with masks if we want to have a season... I wouldn’t be surprised-and it’s highly likely-because the CDC changed their guidelines (again) and stated that masks should be worn even during strenuous physical activity... Yeah funny how it changes after football season! Hahaha! At least it is not hot. I have done many winter activities wearing a mask or what passes for one. Snowboarding, running, skiing, cross country skiing. While it is not THAT cold here most of the time it is easier to exercise in a mask when it is cold and dry than hot and humid. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 9, 2020 8:27:45 GMT -5
Not just mine but nearly my entire Hs aged club team. I think out of the 7 HS my players go to maybe one have a quality Coach that does more then 442 boom ball over the top coaching. Though with more and more money being poured into Hs soccer it’s bringing in true professional licensed coaches. I’m not sure where you coach or which HS your players go to, but I’d have to assume they aren’t Gwinnett Co HS players. Just some of the teams I’m familiar with playing, North Gwinnett, Peachtree Ridge, Parkview, Brookwood, Collins Hill, Mill Creek, Buford... I’d have to check some others websites to see coaches and bios, but just those alone all have coaches on at least the girls side, if not, girls and boys side that coach club or have coached club. What you may not be taking into account, at public schools, coaches get what they get, they can’t really recruit. Some coaches are lucky and have a consistent stream of players and a healthy pool to pull from. Most schools are fortunate if they have a strong 11 and don’t drop off too much after 2-3 subs. Depth is always a problem in high school sports. My point is, if I have a weak midfield, I might look to miss them out, especially if I’m up against a strong midfield... like say when Grayson was stacked a few years back with multiple future ACC, SEC midfielders/forwards. Unfortunately, some coaches like long ball, but let’s not pretend it only occurs in high school soccer... ever watch the EPL, it’s kinda their thing. My last point, most high school coaches are concerned with 1 thing... winning. Club coaches tend to focus more on “development” or at least that’s what they tell parents. If it’s raining or I’m out matched, you better believe I’m telling my players, we don’t look to possess out of the back, we possess on THEIR side. Just a few thoughts from someone that has played and coached both club and high school soccer. I don't feel like most EPL teams play direct anymore. I see a lot of possession soccer built from the back. Personally I think it is most appropriate to do a little of both. You have to have some situational awareness. I agree with you that weather, quality of your midfield (and theirs) matters and you should know how to play both especially if you are a mid table team, not the power house ones. This is for high school and up players. Not little ones and middle school. |
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Post by nole95 on Dec 9, 2020 9:02:45 GMT -5
My daughter plays soccer in Forsyth county, and I can tell you that most of the high schools in our region play at a high level.
The first two years my daughter played high school soccer, there was not one rec player on the varsity team. They were all Athena A or higher. A mix of ex-DA, ECNL, NPL and Athena A.
There were some rec players on the JV team last year, but I have a feeling they might end up not making it this year. The pool of girls trying out this year seems much larger than the past couple years, probably because the varsity team only had 4 seniors last year. Those rec girls are definitely going to have to fight for a spot just to make the JV team.
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Post by SoccerFirst on Dec 9, 2020 15:01:02 GMT -5
I’m not sure where you coach or which HS your players go to, but I’d have to assume they aren’t Gwinnett Co HS players. Just some of the teams I’m familiar with playing, North Gwinnett, Peachtree Ridge, Parkview, Brookwood, Collins Hill, Mill Creek, Buford... I’d have to check some others websites to see coaches and bios, but just those alone all have coaches on at least the girls side, if not, girls and boys side that coach club or have coached club. What you may not be taking into account, at public schools, coaches get what they get, they can’t really recruit. Some coaches are lucky and have a consistent stream of players and a healthy pool to pull from. Most schools are fortunate if they have a strong 11 and don’t drop off too much after 2-3 subs. Depth is always a problem in high school sports. My point is, if I have a weak midfield, I might look to miss them out, especially if I’m up against a strong midfield... like say when Grayson was stacked a few years back with multiple future ACC, SEC midfielders/forwards. Unfortunately, some coaches like long ball, but let’s not pretend it only occurs in high school soccer... ever watch the EPL, it’s kinda their thing. My last point, most high school coaches are concerned with 1 thing... winning. Club coaches tend to focus more on “development” or at least that’s what they tell parents. If it’s raining or I’m out matched, you better believe I’m telling my players, we don’t look to possess out of the back, we possess on THEIR side. Just a few thoughts from someone that has played and coached both club and high school soccer. I don't feel like most EPL teams play direct anymore. I see a lot of possession soccer built from the back. Personally I think it is most appropriate to do a little of both. You have to have some situational awareness. I agree with you that weather, quality of your midfield (and theirs) matters and you should know how to play both especially if you are a mid table team, not the power house ones. This is for high school and up players. Not little ones and middle school. Game management... so important. I’ve been fortunate to coach some great players in high school, players that went on to play SEC/ACC and even some professional ball, and did not know how to play direct when put in the situation where is might be necessary, say down a goal with minutes left. I am a fan of possession style soccer, but not at the cost of your team not knowing how to move the ball forward with purpose. HS coaches have to find a way to be effective and productive with the hand they are dealt... it’s a little different from what ECNL coaches experience with getting their choice of the best players in the area, not to mention access to a pool of players to develop and know what’s headed your way and what players you might need to be recruiting to complete your roster. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 9, 2020 20:30:41 GMT -5
Some schools have recently halted in person instruction near us and basketball squads at our school in quarantine.
A friend from CDC said it will be worse after Christmas. Ugh!
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Post by bogan on Dec 9, 2020 20:37:41 GMT -5
Some schools have recently halted in person instruction near us and basketball squads at our school in quarantine. A friend from CDC said it will be worse after Christmas. Ugh! Yes-not good. Rt was .99-1.01 a few weeks ago. Now GA is second only to CA with an Rt of 1.19. |
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