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Post by soccernoleuk on Dec 11, 2020 7:07:41 GMT -5
Speaking of SCCL Club, it's disappointing how many teams couldn't complete 10 games, yet many/most of the SCCL Premier teams were able to complete their scheduled games. What do you mean couldn’t complete? What age group or club didn’t play their 10 games? So far, our club has played 8/9 of the 10, with the remainder scheduled this weekend. Some have played 9 while others have played 8 because our SSA date had the later afternoon games rained out while the earlier games were played. FC Alliance hasn't played 10, but then again they didn't start until mid-November. |
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Post by ga3v3 on Dec 11, 2020 8:09:46 GMT -5
Venues are posted: Central Park 2300 Keith Bridge Rd, Cumming, GA 30040 Fowler Park 4110 Carolene Way, Cumming, GA 30040 Lanier Land 6115 Jot-Em-Down Rd, Cumming, GA 30041 Matt Community Park 6555 Wallace Tatum Road, Cumming, GA 30028 Sawanee Mountain Park 3995 Watson Rd, Cumming, GA 30040 Sharon Springs Park 3995 Sharon Road, Cumming, GA 30041 You all better hope not to get assigned to Sawnee mountain. We played there last weekend and the condition of the turf fields is down right dangerous. There are literally piles of turf pellets that cause a very unstable playing surface. Pair that with every time a player falls the skin is ground off their legs from abrasions caused from a corse rubber sandpaper. I honestly have never seen anything like it. Literally 8 players on our team had abrasions that looked like they had been playing on asphalt rather than synthetic turf. Completely unacceptable and I would suggest requesting a change or refusing to play if assigned there. It’s simply not safe |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 8:38:43 GMT -5
Speaking of SCCL Club, it's disappointing how many teams couldn't complete 10 games, yet many/most of the SCCL Premier teams were able to complete their scheduled games. What do you mean couldn’t complete? What age group or club didn’t play their 10 games? I'm wondering the same - we are U14G and will play our 10th and final SCCL-C game this Sunday. (Knock on wood) We've had no games postponed. Nor any tournament games canceled. I have a U11G as well and none of her tournament games or academy games were ever postponed. She even played up at U12 a few times to play SCCL-C and those games went on as planned. I wonder if the older age groups are having more Covid issues simply because they have more freedom and they're in more social situations where they're in more contact with other kids who are positive but asymptomatic? |
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Dec 11, 2020 9:42:46 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 9:42:46 GMT -5
Right, but Florida needs to add USA, IMG and Weston to ECNL and create its own conference...making the SE conference GA/TN/AL like the boys. My understanding from people in the know at IMG and Weston is that they are happy in GA. Don't know about USA but they don't even have an 08 team to play GA and their 05 team is very weak though 04 is very strong. Don't think ECNL would want to add a third team in Jax anyway. I also agree that there are more Florida teams and better quality teams than Tennessee has plus the girls play high school in fall so Tennessee makes no sense at all for ECNL to change. I know some people like the idea of minimizing travel and thus getting rid of Florida but from a development standpoint that does not make sense. Top teams in Georgia and top teams in Florida are better than the top teams in Tennessee. Sometimes you have to make a choice between development and less travel. If you don't want to travel then stay in SCCL (or whatever it looks like next year). I am all for trying to build a better mousetrap and trying to minimize travel while still getting great competition but it is difficult when you have Atlanta basically on an island. |
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Dec 11, 2020 9:45:05 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 9:45:05 GMT -5
Florida has plenty of ECRL teams and a league all of its own. If they changed SCCL here into ECRL (mirroring how many other places do it with ECNL having one team and sometimes other clubs being in it) it would work except FC Alliance. Could NPL turn into ECRL? On the girls side that is clubs in NC and SC (already have their own ECRL and a bunch of last year and the year before NPL teams are ECRL now) and now Alabama. You only have 3 Georgia teams and 1 Alabama team. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 11, 2020 9:47:01 GMT -5
There are plenty of SCCL club teams with 7 and 8 games completed (not named FC Alliance). The past 2 years most were able to get 12-13 games played in the same timeframe. So many trying teams are left trying to crunch in 20% of their season on the last possible weekend. A good share of it is due to FC Alliance and that makes sense.
Throughout the season we had a couple 2-3 week stretches without games. We will likely cancel (and possibly not play) our 10th game due to the other team canceling this weekend due to a COVID case on the team.
SCCL Cup takes away a possible makeup weekend.
Of course, the way COVID is skyrocketing, who knows what will take place in the next month.
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Post by atlutd17 on Dec 11, 2020 10:02:53 GMT -5
Could NPL turn into ECRL? On the girls side that is clubs in NC and SC (already have their own ECRL and a bunch of last year and the year before NPL teams are ECRL now) and now Alabama. You only have 3 Georgia teams and 1 Alabama team. Correct. SCCL-C is the league already set up to convert into ECRL. SCCL-C seems stronger than NPL overall even though SSA with AFC make a point for the opposite. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 10:17:48 GMT -5
On the girls side that is clubs in NC and SC (already have their own ECRL and a bunch of last year and the year before NPL teams are ECRL now) and now Alabama. You only have 3 Georgia teams and 1 Alabama team. Correct. SCCL-C is the league already set up to convert into ECRL. SCCL-C seems stronger than NPL overall even though SSA with AFC make a point for the opposite. UFA has some strong NPL teams as well and on the girls side might take the ECRL slot over the Norcross teams with possibly an exception or two. That could be tough for Norcross though as I know they would like to have a league to keep their players there. However there is precedent from North Carolina with some clubs having two ECRL teams especially when they have multiple locations. CSA, NCFC and Charlotte Independence so if they made an all Georgia league they could have multiple teams for clubs like SSA and UFA that have teams in both SCCL and NPL. |
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Post by atlutd17 on Dec 11, 2020 11:09:44 GMT -5
Top teams in ECNL of course, no doubt both SSA and UFA will field their best possible 2nd teams in ECRL.
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Dec 11, 2020 11:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by coffee on Dec 11, 2020 11:29:45 GMT -5
NC and SC still have teams in NPL. The NPL U16 girl’s age has the following representation from local states:
1 Alabama
2 NC
2 SC
3 Georgia
They play each team at home and away for 14 games in the season.
It would be interesting to see 2 ECRL teams from UFA. One team is at Forsyth and one is at Norcross that are currently NPL and SCCL-C respectively. Norcross has fantastic teams that my daughter has guest played for when they needed a keeper due to injuries. That could be a great rivalry between the coaches and players.
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Dec 11, 2020 11:44:11 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 11:44:11 GMT -5
NC and SC still have teams in NPL. The NPL U16 girl’s age has the following representation from local states: 1 Alabama 2 NC 2 SC 3 Georgia They play each team at home and away for 14 games in the season. It would be interesting to see 2 ECRL teams from UFA. One team is at Forsyth and one is at Norcross that are currently NPL and SCCL-C respectively. Norcross has fantastic teams that my daughter has guest played for when they needed a keeper due to injuries. That could be a great rivalry between the coaches and players. NC and SC do have NPL teams but the NC teams are weak. TUSA is bottom always in high school age groups. Wake left for GA and now their second team is NPL and they are not strong either. SC Surf is strong (and they were as USA Mt pleasant) but if they left NPL they would all go to the NC and SC ECRL anyway The better NC teams left this year Charlotte Independence North and South and Charlotte SA North and South left two years ago (all now ECRL) and Wake left for GA. NPL has been a revolving door |
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Dec 11, 2020 11:47:42 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 11:47:42 GMT -5
Top teams in ECNL of course, no doubt both SSA and UFA will field their best possible 2nd teams in ECRL. If they could get two ECRL teams I bet they would take it. Yes of course top teams in ECNL like they are now |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 11, 2020 11:53:19 GMT -5
UFA would have a decision to make OR just pit the 2 teams (if they have 2 at each age group) against one another in best-of-three friendlies. You'd probably end up with most of the girls ECRL at Forsyth and the boys split between locations. But the question remains if Norcross will be able to field a team at every age group next year (maybe Metro can pickup the slack?).
By the same token AFU should pit north vs south teams and I'm sure SSA would pick the best team in a similar fashion. GSA can form their best team since their locations are (relatively) close. Concorde is already centralized, so that's easy. Roswell and AFC should get a direct in for their first teams.
Regarding South Atlantic NPL, I think the SC and NC teams should apply to the Carolinas ECRL. Triangle and Wake's teams probably need to revert to a state league, but SC Surf is good and Charleston SC seems pretty solid. In the Carolinas they probably need to create 2 tiers of ECRL.
I don't know what becomes of VHSC, but their teams are typically better than BUSA's 2nd team.
NTH can do its own thing, maybe add a 2nd team to DPL.
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Dec 11, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Keeper on Dec 11, 2020 12:12:31 GMT -5
There are plenty of SCCL club teams with 7 and 8 games completed (not named FC Alliance). The past 2 years most were able to get 12-13 games played in the same timeframe. So many trying teams are left trying to crunch in 20% of their season on the last possible weekend. A good share of it is due to FC Alliance and that makes sense. Throughout the season we had a couple 2-3 week stretches without games. We will likely cancel (and possibly not play) our 10th game due to the other team canceling this weekend due to a COVID case on the team. SCCL Cup takes away a possible makeup weekend. Of course, the way COVID is skyrocketing, who knows what will take place in the next month. Good luck trying to cancel a Club to Club game, we were told straight from Nancy it’s a $500 fine on the team. They don’t care when you reschedule it but it has to get played per the rules. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 12:41:29 GMT -5
NC and SC still have teams in NPL. The NPL U16 girl’s age has the following representation from local states: 1 Alabama 2 NC 2 SC 3 Georgia They play each team at home and away for 14 games in the season. It would be interesting to see 2 ECRL teams from UFA. One team is at Forsyth and one is at Norcross that are currently NPL and SCCL-C respectively. Norcross has fantastic teams that my daughter has guest played for when they needed a keeper due to injuries. That could be a great rivalry between the coaches and players. what age group is your daughter? My daughter plays for Norcross. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 12:43:55 GMT -5
UFA would have a decision to make OR just pit the 2 teams (if they have 2 at each age group) against one another in best-of-three friendlies. You'd probably end up with most of the girls ECRL at Forsyth and the boys split between locations. But the question remains if Norcross will be able to field a team at every age group next year (maybe Metro can pickup the slack?). I'm wondering the same (re: your last sentence) and have thought about Metro filling in the gaps where Norcross has had significant departures. |
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Post by coffee on Dec 11, 2020 14:42:03 GMT -5
...The NPL U16 girl’s age ... what age group is your daughter? My daughter plays for Norcross. ☝️ 😉 |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 14:58:09 GMT -5
what age group is your daughter? My daughter plays for Norcross. ☝️ 😉 Norcross doesn't have a U16 team playing SCCL-C. The top '05 team at Norcross left for All-In when their coach (Sergio Magana) went there this summer. The SCCL-C team for UFA in that age group is based out of Forsyth. Did your daughter play for them last year? |
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Post by coffee on Dec 11, 2020 17:19:01 GMT -5
Norcross doesn't have a U16 team playing SCCL-C. The top '05 team at Norcross left for All-In when their coach (Sergio Magana) went there this summer. The SCCL-C team for UFA in that age group is based out of Forsyth. Did your daughter play for them last year? 🤦🏻♂️ 🤣 D’oh! Yes, my daughter plays primarily for the 06 NPL team, but she also helps 05s. With tracking of schedules for games and tourneys for two ages, it’s not hard to get U15, 06, U16, and 05 flipped flopped in my head. I typed the wrong team age in my original post, and then didn’t notice the mistake after that. BTW, I know that story very well. My daughter tried out for that 05 Norcross team, as well as Sam’s fantastic 06s. She was offered the job of keeper by both coaches. She decided to go with Sergio due to his reputation. That was a week or two before he announced his decision to leave. She trained with him during that time. When they left, we didn’t. He is an amazing coach, but we choose not to follow him for reasons. On the same day Sergio announced his intentions, she was recruited by Stephen. She gladly took the offer. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 17:30:56 GMT -5
Norcross doesn't have a U16 team playing SCCL-C. The top '05 team at Norcross left for All-In when their coach (Sergio Magana) went there this summer. The SCCL-C team for UFA in that age group is based out of Forsyth. Did your daughter play for them last year? 🤦🏻♂️ 🤣 D’oh! Yes, my daughter plays primarily for the 06 NPL team, but she also helps 05s. With tracking of schedules for games and tourneys for two ages, it’s not hard to get U15, 06, U16, and 05 flipped flopped in my head. I typed the wrong team age in my original post, and then didn’t notice the mistake after that. BTW, I know that story very well. My daughter tried out for that 05 Norcross team, as well as Sam’s fantastic 06s. She was offered the job of keeper by both coaches. She decided to go with Sergio due to his reputation. That was a week or two before he announced his decision to leave. She trained with him during that time. When they left, we didn’t. He is an amazing coach, but we choose not to follow him for reasons. On the same day Sergio announced his intentions, she was recruited by Stephen. She gladly took the offer. Ahhh okay, that makes sense! Yeah I'll keep my thoughts to myself on the Sergio deal . . . |
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Post by footyfan on Dec 13, 2020 10:12:29 GMT -5
On the girls side that is clubs in NC and SC (already have their own ECRL and a bunch of last year and the year before NPL teams are ECRL now) and now Alabama. You only have 3 Georgia teams and 1 Alabama team. Correct. SCCL-C is the league already set up to convert into ECRL. SCCL-C seems stronger than NPL overall even though SSA with AFC make a point for the opposite. Interested to know how it makes more sense for US Club Soccer/ ECNL to try to convert a multitude of different provincial leagues across the country (like SCCL) to ECRL or just make 1 league (NPL) the ECRL league, adjusting ECNL and ECRL leagues as necessary to incorporate them? Also interested to know why ECNL is developing a U15-U19 fomat to match USL. Is it a competitor or friend? |
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Post by bogan on Dec 13, 2020 10:49:11 GMT -5
Correct. SCCL-C is the league already set up to convert into ECRL. SCCL-C seems stronger than NPL overall even though SSA with AFC make a point for the opposite. Interested to know how it makes more sense for US Club Soccer/ ECNL to try to convert a multitude of different provincial leagues across the country (like SCCL) to ECRL or just make 1 league (NPL) the ECRL league, adjusting ECNL and ECRL leagues as necessary to incorporate them? Also interested to know why ECNL is developing a U15-U19 fomat to match USL. Is it a competitor or friend? Regarding ECNL/USL-I believe it’s to keep USL (and MLS) from poaching talent since there is no DA. But it would be fun if they would play each other...cut down on the travel. |
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