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Post by rifle on Dec 11, 2020 7:12:15 GMT -5
Source www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/for-jack-01es1j5fnhm5/amp?__twitter_impression=true Sports became my getaway.
It was important for me to just enjoy whatever I was doing. I had played lacrosse. Now I was playing tennis, a bit of Wiffle ball and a lot of basketball. Playing different sports helped me become a better soccer player. Basketball, for example, improved my footwork and athleticism. And anyway, I don’t think it would have been healthy to focus just on soccer. Actually, I would say that to all kids and parents: Just enjoy different sports until you are 13 or 14, then you can pick one. There is no need to get too intense too early. I think a lot of parents in America are a bit hard-core. I’m definitely glad that my dad never put any pressure on me. He was always there as a dad first. Soccer always came second. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 11, 2020 10:08:46 GMT -5
It's not just parents and players --- coaches need to adapt and allow this.
I can't tell you how many times, i've seen kids punished for missing training sessions or games due to other sports at young ages -- hoops, tennis, even chess etc.
All coaches in all sports need to allow flexibility -- it requires everyone to be on board
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Post by guest on Dec 11, 2020 10:46:48 GMT -5
Happened to my daughter. She’s a soccer player who wanted to swim, a fall sport. She was pretty good too, would have been their fastest breaststroker. Swim coach said no. You have to make 4 out of 5 weekly practices (she would have missed 2 per week to attend club soccer practice). No practice, no meet. No meet, no state meet, even if you’ve already qualified. But wait I thought you said you encourage your athletes to play in other sports? Coach: only if it is another HS sport. Missing HS swim practice for HS XC practice: excused. Missing HS swim practice for club soccer practice: unexcused. Ok, bye!
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 10:55:03 GMT -5
Happened to my daughter. She’s a soccer player who wanted to swim, a fall sport. She was pretty good too, would have been their fastest breaststroker. Swim coach said no. You have to make 4 out of 5 weekly practices (she would have missed 2 per week to attend club soccer practice). No practice, no meet. No meet, no state meet, even if you’ve already qualified. But wait I thought you said you encourage your athletes to play in other sports? Coach: only if it is another HS sport. Missing HS swim practice for HS XC practice: excused. Missing HS swim practice for club soccer practice: unexcused. Ok, bye! Agreed! Had same issue with high school cross country. They wanted her on varsity (we preferred JV). We told them we would struggle to make the practices. Explained before the season. Said never gonna make AM sessions because getting home from soccer too late. Not gonna make AM Saturday session due to travel soccer games and sometimes home ones as well. Preseason, HS cross country coach said no problem. We just want her to run varsity. But as missed practices occurred he said she couldn't go to a big meet. We said we told you all of this upfront before we joined and you agreed. He said he did not know it would be that many missed trainings. So we said bye bye! |
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Post by wolves97 on Dec 11, 2020 11:12:06 GMT -5
Didn't Jamie Skalski, the starting linebacker at Clemson, play club soccer and high school football in Atlanta somewhere? Seems like I heard he was a decent soccer player too?
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Post by bogan on Dec 11, 2020 11:23:25 GMT -5
Taylor Twellman:
“ Twellman: As a young athlete I played soccer, baseball and football. An all-round athlete will eventually choose a sport that they love and will be better off by playing more than one sport. Playing more than one sport is so much better socially for the child. Playing with different athletes/friends and playing for different coaches will definitely get them out of their comfort zone and make for a better person. I ended up becoming a professional soccer player.”
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Post by soccerspin on Dec 11, 2020 13:02:45 GMT -5
To me it’s more about supporting your child in whatever he or she wants to do. If it is to concentrate on one sport because that is their passion, there’s nothing wrong with that. And then vice versa if he or she wants to do multiple sports. It’s ensuring that you as a parent are not forcing them one way or another.
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 11, 2020 13:28:01 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring.
I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one.
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Post by bogan on Dec 11, 2020 13:51:27 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. I think I would still play more than one-just not concurrently. It’s not right to have the team go down a “man.” I think it’s good to have a team sport and an individual sport. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 13:53:10 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. Plus the other issue I see is the amount of homework the late middle school and all of high school kids have. Trying to add on additional sports is hard. Then you also have the overlap of the school sports with each other and club sports. Seasons are longer. Preseason training, weight training often mandatory. Where is the time to be a kid and see your friends? This was all pre-pandemic when you actually could go bowling or see a movie with your friends safely! |
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Post by bogan on Dec 11, 2020 13:57:07 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. Plus the other issue I see is the amount of homework the late middle school and all of high school kids have. Trying to add on additional sports is hard. Then you also have the overlap of the school sports with each other and club sports. Seasons are longer. Preseason training, weight training often mandatory. Where is the time to be a kid and see your friends? This was all pre-pandemic when you actually could go bowling or see a movie with your friends safely! If you have a 10 month season, you are right-one sport is probably enough. However, I played sports, worked a job and made time for other things (like occasionally doing my school work). 🙄😶 |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 11, 2020 14:02:11 GMT -5
Plus the other issue I see is the amount of homework the late middle school and all of high school kids have. Trying to add on additional sports is hard. Then you also have the overlap of the school sports with each other and club sports. Seasons are longer. Preseason training, weight training often mandatory. Where is the time to be a kid and see your friends? This was all pre-pandemic when you actually could go bowling or see a movie with your friends safely! If you have a 10 month season, you are right-one sport is probably enough. However, I played sports, worked a job and made time for other things (like occasionally doing my school work). 🙄😶 Me too but despite being a great student and taking some hard classes I never had to spend 6 hours on homework in a night and we did not have study halls too. Oh and that includes taking dual enrollment classes in high school. I never even spend 6 hours on school work in a given day even with AP classes and college coursework concurrently. These kids can have A LOT of homework!!! |
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Post by bogan on Dec 11, 2020 14:09:56 GMT -5
If you have a 10 month season, you are right-one sport is probably enough. However, I played sports, worked a job and made time for other things (like occasionally doing my school work). 🙄😶 Me too but despite being a great student and taking some hard classes I never had to spend 6 hours on homework in a night and we did not have study halls too. Oh and that includes taking dual enrollment classes in high school. I never even spend 6 hours on school work in a given day even with AP classes and college coursework concurrently. These kids can have A LOT of homework!!! Wow. Yeah-I agree-I probably wouldn’t make it through. I don’t think I spent 6 hours a day working on my thesis! |
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Post by mightydawg on Dec 11, 2020 15:48:59 GMT -5
If you have a 10 month season, you are right-one sport is probably enough. However, I played sports, worked a job and made time for other things (like occasionally doing my school work). 🙄😶 Me too but despite being a great student and taking some hard classes I never had to spend 6 hours on homework in a night and we did not have study halls too. Oh and that includes taking dual enrollment classes in high school. I never even spend 6 hours on school work in a given day even with AP classes and college coursework concurrently. These kids can have A LOT of homework!!! To me, the homework is the problem. Not the activities. There is no justifiable reason that a kid should have 6 hours of homework in a night (unless of course, the kid procrastinated). That is more work than is required in college, masters, and doctorate level courses. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Dec 11, 2020 16:09:59 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. Yep. And let's be honest, is Reyna a great soccer player because he played multiple sports at a young age? Or is it that he had 2 parents who were former soccer greats and he had them around all the time to teach/train him whenever he wanted? Almost every club now requires kids to play fall & spring soccer. It leaves little/no time for other sports other than rec basketball and may a few other sports. And if you keep your kid in rec soccer because they want to play multiple sports, by the time your kid is ready to get serious about soccer and signs up for club, the other soccer players are much more advanced than your kid, relegating them to the worst team in the club for probably a few years. And we know what that's like - team struggles mightily and kids either quit or want to move to a new club for a better opportunity that may or may not even exist. |
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Post by bogan on Dec 11, 2020 16:40:15 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. Yep. And let's be honest, is Reyna a great soccer player because he played multiple sports at a young age? Or is it that he had 2 parents who were former soccer greats and he had them around all the time to teach/train him whenever he wanted? Almost every club now requires kids to play fall & spring soccer. It leaves little/no time for other sports other than rec basketball and may a few other sports. And if you keep your kid in rec soccer because they want to play multiple sports, by the time your kid is ready to get serious about soccer and signs up for club, the other soccer players are much more advanced than your kid, relegating them to the worst team in the club for probably a few years. And we know what that's like - team struggles mightily and kids either quit or want to move to a new club for a better opportunity that may or may not even exist. Valid point-I think baseball is pretty much the same now, too. If you don’t play fall ball you get left behind. Shame, though. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 11, 2020 20:15:53 GMT -5
Yep. And let's be honest, is Reyna a great soccer player because he played multiple sports at a young age? Or is it that he had 2 parents who were former soccer greats and he had them around all the time to teach/train him whenever he wanted? Almost every club now requires kids to play fall & spring soccer. It leaves little/no time for other sports other than rec basketball and may a few other sports. And if you keep your kid in rec soccer because they want to play multiple sports, by the time your kid is ready to get serious about soccer and signs up for club, the other soccer players are much more advanced than your kid, relegating them to the worst team in the club for probably a few years. And we know what that's like - team struggles mightily and kids either quit or want to move to a new club for a better opportunity that may or may not even exist. Valid point-I think baseball is pretty much the same now, too. If you don’t play fall ball you get left behind. Shame, though. I think everything but football is like that now. |
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Post by guest on Dec 12, 2020 10:38:09 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. We managed concurrent Academy soccer and lacrosse. The deal breaker was when the third practice per week got added (u11 I think). So we left Association football and the red cards for hard tackles for American gridiron football where he got high fives and attaboys for the same physical play. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Dec 13, 2020 15:18:51 GMT -5
The issue is.. if you're in club, not rec, you're kind of stuck. We had a kid whose parents wanted her to play soccer and lacrosse - so halfway through the year, we were short a player. It screwed up the whole team as we had to pull guest players from lower teams for the entire spring. I get wanting to play multiple sports, but the people who talk about this (like twellman) grew up in a time where people played rec beyond 7yo and HS sports weren't hot garbage. I played 2-3 sports in HS.. but they didn't have high level club/travel teams like they do now, or I'd have likely played JUST one. We managed concurrent Academy soccer and lacrosse. The deal breaker was when the third practice per week got added (u11 I think). So we left Association football and the red cards for hard tackles for American gridiron football where he got high fives and attaboys for the same physical play. added? My kids have had 3-night/week practices pretty much since they left rec. |
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