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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 14:33:51 GMT -5
2010 Boys Gold coach is Craig Gage. New coach to AFU from Nc Fusion this year. Decent coach from what I’ve seen with his 08 ECNL team but he’s adjusting to the AFU ways as Tavani wants all the academy teams playing possession and 4/3/3 style while Gage doenst coach that style yet.
For a spring season at AFU id go there if it was closer as they’ll be plenty of extra practice and club passing opportunities.
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Post by Keeper on Dec 21, 2020 15:36:02 GMT -5
2010 Boys Gold coach is Craig Gage. New coach to AFU from Nc Fusion this year. Decent coach from what I’ve seen with his 08 ECNL team but he’s adjusting to the AFU ways as Tavani wants all the academy teams playing possession and 4/3/3 style while Gage doenst coach that style yet. For a spring season at AFU id go there if it was closer as they’ll be plenty of extra practice and club passing opportunities. Thank you. What style does Gage coach then? What is a club passing? With the 08s he’s gone from the 4/3/3 that Tavani taught them to a mix of 5/3/2 and 3/4/3 with more of influence of direct over the top play. Club Passing is playing up with the level or age group above you in season. So like a player on the Premier 1 team playing up on the SCCL Club team. Or playing up in age so a U13 Premier 1 player playing up with the U14 Premier 1 team. |
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Post by futdad on Dec 21, 2020 17:40:39 GMT -5
what does this mean "with more of influence of direct over the top play?"  |
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Post by rudy on Dec 22, 2020 0:17:11 GMT -5
Check some of the recent postings on here for AFU...just saying.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 22, 2020 8:29:44 GMT -5
what does this mean "with more of influence of direct over the top play?" Though I cannot speak to this particular coach/team, that statement usually means the defenders send long balls for the forwards to run up on. Also known as long ball. This can be a bad thing if your kid is a midfielder. It is also not great for teaching passing and receiving and there can be a lot of sprinting for nothing if the defenders send it too long. Personally for the academy ages it is not my cup of tea though it can be helpful at times to use with older ages groups, but not all of the time. Think of it like football playing only hail Mary passes. |
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Post by kidsocceruber on Dec 22, 2020 8:51:58 GMT -5
Hasn't been mentioned, but since you're in Johns Creek I'm guessing you've already looked into Ambush? They have 3 U11 teams and the Red(top) team won their tournament last month. I haven't had a child play with Coach Matt, he's young(he does have a C license already) but from what I hear is pretty good with coaching the kids. Juan Carlos coaches the other two teams and has a B license if that helps you. If you're looking for a bigger club that plays ECNL and the like then Ambush isn't likely for you and steer towards UFA or AFU, but at least at the younger ages they are a pretty good club to develop with. hth
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Post by soccerparentx on Dec 23, 2020 15:13:44 GMT -5
Doesn't Norcross have an 2009 Team in the SCCL? Or am I misunderstanding the statement that there are no U12s at UFA Norcross?
I feel like there is more opportunity to not only play between the Norcross 2010 teams, but also play between Norcross and Forsyth teams. They aren't afraid to open up guest spots for tournaments if there's a need.
More so than I've seen at the other clubs that seem to permanently classify your player as a team color once their teams are set.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 23, 2020 16:11:19 GMT -5
Doesn't Norcross have an 2009 Team in the SCCL? Or am I misunderstanding the statement that there are no U12s at UFA Norcross? I feel like there is more opportunity to not only play between the Norcross 2010 teams, but also play between Norcross and Forsyth teams. They aren't afraid to open up guest spots for tournaments if there's a need. More so than I've seen at the other clubs that seem to permanently classify your player as a team color once their teams are set. Guest playing between Norcross and Forsyth happens quite a bit. Both my kids (at Forsyth) have done this in the past. Usually Forsyth teams have enough players to just pull from another Forsyth team but this year that has been different. Lower numbers due to covid. |
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Post by rifle on Dec 25, 2020 22:54:51 GMT -5
So you’re gonna eat the fees already paid, get a release and pay again to join a new club? For a 10 year old to transfer to a lower level team than he is on already? Does not compute.
Let the kid play and take guest opportunities as possible. Recommend you drop him at practice and leave. Come back when practice is over. Scout other clubs in the spring so you know where to go for tryouts. Make your move in May.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 26, 2020 9:10:36 GMT -5
So you’re gonna eat the fees already paid, get a release and pay again to join a new club? For a 10 year old to transfer to a lower level team than he is on already? Does not compute. Let the kid play and take guest opportunities as possible. Recommend you drop him at practice and leave. Come back when practice is over. Scout other clubs in the spring so you know where to go for tryouts. Make your move in May. If the kid is miserable I have no problem with this. I have seen kids move clubs mid-season before. I can think of a half dozen kids in my older daughter's age group that moved to or away from UFA Forsyth in the U12 -U14 age groups in years past. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 26, 2020 9:16:00 GMT -5
Well bottom line....a bit going nuts on what to do....? 1. In Spring, put him in a lower level team than where he is in current academy at UFA Norcross, great coaches, practice 3x per week, hopefully make it to Premier U12 in 2021 Fall, not much roster depth, only 2x U11 teams, no U12 this year. 2. AFU Duluth, 2nd team, 2x practices per week, higher level than where he is at, decent but not super coach. More team/roster depth all around all ages. I would say that the decision depends on what you think would be best for you kid. If you think the kid would get frustrated with the lower level players then maybe Norcross is not a good idea. If not then I say go where you think the coach is better. Great coaches can do wonders with teams. Another idea is to ask your kid. I have always let my kids tell me when they want to move even at 10 years old. |
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Post by rifle on Dec 26, 2020 12:29:51 GMT -5
So you’re gonna eat the fees already paid, get a release and pay again to join a new club? For a 10 year old to transfer to a lower level team than he is on already? Does not compute. Let the kid play and take guest opportunities as possible. Recommend you drop him at practice and leave. Come back when practice is over. Scout other clubs in the spring so you know where to go for tryouts. Make your move in May. If the kid is miserable I have no problem with this. I have seen kids move clubs mid-season before. I can think of a half dozen kids in my older daughter's age group that moved to or away from UFA Forsyth in the U12 -U14 age groups in years past. Is the kid miserable? |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 26, 2020 13:02:38 GMT -5
If the kid is miserable I have no problem with this. I have seen kids move clubs mid-season before. I can think of a half dozen kids in my older daughter's age group that moved to or away from UFA Forsyth in the U12 -U14 age groups in years past. Is the kid miserable? I don't know...not my kid. I was saying "if." |
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Post by rifle on Dec 26, 2020 15:00:16 GMT -5
I don't know...not my kid. I was saying "if." Understood. The whole thing reads like the parent is miserable. |
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Post by Keeper on Dec 26, 2020 15:04:37 GMT -5
I don't know...not my kid. I was saying "if." Understood. The whole thing reads like the parent is miserable. Yeah definitely sounds more like the parent is wanting the move over the kid. It’s Academy it’s not that big of deal. Go to the closest respected club to your home and kids school. That age is meant to play with yours friends and neighborhood. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Dec 26, 2020 18:46:14 GMT -5
Understood. The whole thing reads like the parent is miserable. Yeah definitely sounds more like the parent is wanting the move over the kid. It’s Academy it’s not that big of deal. Go to the closest respected club to your home and kids school. That age is meant to play with yours friends and neighborhood. I agree that the history of the issue has sounded more like parent misery than kid misery, but we don't know that for sure. Neither of my kids have played with their school friends ever (my older) or since kindergarten rec (my younger). Some of that is their school size (small), no kids their age in the neighborhood, but a lot of that is that there are MANY, MANY parents that do not have their kids involved in organized athletics as youngsters. So many parents either aren't willing (at my kids' school) or aren't able to spend the time to get their kids to practices. It is hard to get kids to a practice at 4 or 5 or even 6 for many working parents. I do think it matters at academy where they play. Coaches at that age may matter even more. They can nurture love of the game or kill it. They can start them on good or bad habits regarding style of play or use of their skillset. If this parent feels he needs to move his child we should try to be understanding. I don't think we should dismiss his concerns. If I knew years ago what I know now I would have moved my older daughter earlier than I did. Then again maybe those years built resilience. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 27, 2020 13:25:01 GMT -5
Here's my take. Think of the best team your kid played against. Compare the development of those players against your kid. If the difference is significant, visit their practice. If the practice is significantly different, decide to move your child. Then find the nearest clubs, watch their practices and find the best fit from there.
Kids don't see the difference. Its up to parents to decide how far we think our kids can go and how much we want to see them improve (while still enjoying the ride), find the best fit for them and encourage them to step out of their comfort zone.
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Post by rifle on Dec 27, 2020 18:27:01 GMT -5
Many club coaches will tell you that those are skills to develop on your own or via private training. If you don’t have a wall for the boy to bang a ball against, gitty-up!
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Post by georgiatechalum on Dec 27, 2020 22:10:35 GMT -5
Here’s my 2 cents for what’s its worth. I have a son in the same age group as yours. He does not play at the clubs being discussed ( Concord North, AFU or UFA Norcross) although he has played against all three. I have an opinion on which is the best of those three but I will keep that to myself. That said, I can only think of a couple of coaches at this age group who teach/ coach what you are looking for from a technical foot work perspective. If you are not happy with NM at Concord I doubt you will be happy with the other two teams. I think your expectations on what is being coached / taught is the issue . I am guessing this might be for first experience at youth academy soccer. As others have stated you will need to find your son a private/ semi private coach. Also considering bringing him to a good futsal program. But at the end of the day (I hate that expression:) ) Your expectations are not aligned with reality. If you look at the boys on let’s say Concords Central or UFA Forsyth top teams most are doing privates where they are working on their technical development. This is not something they typically get from their weekly team practice.
Like I said just my 2 cents. Good luck
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Post by atlfutboldad on Dec 27, 2020 22:45:10 GMT -5
If your kid is frustrated with teammates, move. You don't want your kid yo resent his teammates.
But if you don't want to do private training, get some cones and a couple extra balls, then look up Coerver method on YouTube. Pick out 3 exercises for your kid to work on for a 30 minute session. Do it twice a Wk and have him Juggle for 20 minutes twice a week.
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Post by soccerparentx on Dec 28, 2020 12:47:14 GMT -5
If I wasn't able to find a club that fit what I was looking for, I'd take the money and spend it on private training. Invest that time and energy now. When tryouts roll around, your player will be ready to ball out. One of the posts was dead on accurate in that probably 100% of the kids on top teams are doing extra training in addition to their practices.
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Post by newposter on Dec 28, 2020 13:03:02 GMT -5
Top players in the Atl area don't get to be top players by only going practice during the season. Its a year long commitment plus time at home. Kid played on nationally ranked and national finalist team. Kid played all the time and it paid off for them and the team. Teammates must be equally committed as soccer takes all 11 plus the bench.
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Post by mistercalcio on Dec 28, 2020 19:52:42 GMT -5
Here’s my 2 cents for what’s its worth. I have a son in the same age group as yours. He does not play at the clubs being discussed ( Concord North, AFU or UFA Norcross) although he has played against all three. I have an opinion on which is the best of those three but I will keep that to myself. That said, I can only think of a couple of coaches at this age group who teach/ coach what you are looking for from a technical foot work perspective. If you are not happy with NM at Concord I doubt you will be happy with the other two teams. I think your expectations on what is being coached / taught is the issue . I am guessing this might be for first experience at youth academy soccer. As others have stated you will need to find your son a private/ semi private coach. Also considering bringing him to a good futsal program. But at the end of the day (I hate that expression:) ) Your expectations are not aligned with reality. If you look at the boys on let’s say Concords Central or UFA Forsyth top teams most are doing privates where they are working on their technical development. This is not something they typically get from their weekly team practice. Like I said just my 2 cents. Good luck What’s going on at Concorde North?? All i hear from that branch lately is exodus talk. Our 3rd of 4 played one of their U11 teams earlier this season and parents were visibly frustrated. Is that still fallout from the civil war that happened there a few years ago? |
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Post by soccerparentx on Dec 31, 2020 11:17:35 GMT -5
The SCCL summer league tryouts are staggered. (GSA, UFA, and Concorde at least). Might be a good way to get out there and find a club.
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