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Post by Soccerhouse on Dec 29, 2020 16:44:23 GMT -5
Anyone know where Andrew Carleton landed?
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Post by rifle on Dec 29, 2020 18:15:06 GMT -5
Twitter profile still said Indy a couple days ago. Maybe they picked him up.
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Post by atv on Dec 31, 2020 11:54:53 GMT -5
Youth soccer coaching ... (?)
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Post by bogan on Dec 31, 2020 14:33:58 GMT -5
Honest Dans Auto-rama?
Usually #Futsal Gawdess knows these things...
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Post by footyfan on Dec 31, 2020 15:41:08 GMT -5
Someplace he didn't need a passport for?
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Post by footyfan on Jan 1, 2021 14:31:04 GMT -5
Interesting pinned Tweet today...Dreams no longer...(from 2017) I think its been there. Definitely has a new meaning for him these days. Did he get his HS degree while playing? |
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Post by rifle on Jan 1, 2021 17:45:18 GMT -5
Interesting pinned Tweet today...Dreams no longer...(from 2017) That’s been pinned since it happened. |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Jan 7, 2021 11:06:09 GMT -5
In the MLS End-of-Year Waivers Draft on Wednesday December 16th, 2020 Carleton was not one of the 9 available HomeGrowns picked. He's not technically free to sign with any MLS/USL team as he or they see fit. However in checking the USL Championship Transfer Tracker he's not listed as IN/OUT by the Indy 11 so don't know. I do know he was spotted locally last week exercising his civic duty in our recently concluded runoffs but other than that, all is quiet on the where he'll land front...
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Post by fanatic21 on Jan 7, 2021 11:40:49 GMT -5
I've seen him at local fields training a few times recently.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 7, 2021 12:25:00 GMT -5
Yea, assumed he would be picked up in that expansion draft. Its confusing has heck what his free agent status is.
Kid's not doing himself any favors if you have seen his social media posts....recent drip to DC as an example.
Maybe he's hard headed, and I hate to make this personal, but the kid just isn't learning. I could quote Forrest Gump here, but I won't.......
My take is this -- he needs to get off social media and he needs a true mentor that keeps him on track and literally holds his hand. However, I fear the worst for him and Goslin, their playing days might be behind themm.
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Post by cantgetright on Jan 7, 2021 14:27:59 GMT -5
What does someone's political views have to do with anything. I believe all of the votes for presidency of the US came was almost split right down the middle. So how is your statement relevant about doing himself no favors. Half of America voted one way and half voted the other. I don't take offense about either side and nor should you or anyone else.
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Post by flix on Jan 7, 2021 15:10:39 GMT -5
What does someone's political views have to do with anything. I believe all of the votes for presidency of the US came was almost split right down the middle. So how is your statement relevant about doing himself no favors. Half of America voted one way and half voted the other. I don't take offense about either side and nor should you or anyone else. Please don’t start with that political BS again. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 7, 2021 15:11:49 GMT -5
What does someone's political views have to do with anything. I believe all of the votes for presidency of the US came was almost split right down the middle. So how is your statement relevant about doing himself no favors. Half of America voted one way and half voted the other. I don't take offense about either side and nor should you or anyone else. "Almost split down the middle" is doing some heavy lifting there when Biden won by 7M votes. To put that in perspective, a state with 7M people would be the 15th most populous state in our union. I haven't seen Carleton's social media posts, but I'm guessing they're more than just support for a particular candidate. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 7, 2021 16:06:12 GMT -5
What does someone's political views have to do with anything. I believe all of the votes for presidency of the US came was almost split right down the middle. So how is your statement relevant about doing himself no favors. Half of America voted one way and half voted the other. I don't take offense about either side and nor should you or anyone else. "Almost split down the middle" is doing some heavy lifting there when Biden won by 7M votes. To put that in perspective, a state with 7M people would be the 15th most populous state in our union. I haven't seen Carleton's social media posts, but I'm guessing they're more than just support for a particular candidate. Well, actually, while 7 million sounds like a nice big number, there were 158,394,605 votes cast. Biden received 51.3% of the popular vote, Trump 46.9% and 1.8% other. Without getting into politics, I do think that it fair to characterize our country as being almost split down the middle. |
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Post by bogan on Jan 7, 2021 16:23:18 GMT -5
Unfortunately, our country is bifurcated, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I think you have to be careful what you post-I stay away from politics as I don’t want to offend half my customers, or in my case 8/10 of them. Any way-I wish Carleton the best and hope his football career is a long one.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 7, 2021 16:32:49 GMT -5
Unfortunately, our country is bifurcated, and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. I think you have to be careful what you post-I stay away from politics as I don’t want to offend half my customers, or in my case 8/10 of them. Any way-I wish Carleton the best and hope his football career is a long one. Exactly for a kid with no soccer home, no team, no teammates -- you need to watch what you say and do. politics or not, photos etc, he hasn't learned from the original incident. I get free speech, but when your on the bubble, don't do anything to knock yourself off the bubble -- the window to be a professional athlete is small, there are dozens of athletes ready to take your spot, so don't give anyone an excuse to not pick you up. |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 7, 2021 17:51:14 GMT -5
"Almost split down the middle" is doing some heavy lifting there when Biden won by 7M votes. To put that in perspective, a state with 7M people would be the 15th most populous state in our union. I haven't seen Carleton's social media posts, but I'm guessing they're more than just support for a particular candidate. Well, actually, while 7 million sounds like a nice big number, there were 158,394,605 votes cast. Biden received 51.3% of the popular vote, Trump 46.9% and 1.8% other. Without getting into politics, I do think that it fair to characterize our country as being almost split down the middle. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. Here is the % of votes received by the winner of the last several elections, to put Biden's 51.3% in perspective: 2016: Trump - 46.1% 2012: Obama - 51.1% 2008: Obama - 52.9% 2004: Bush - 50.7% 2000: Bush - 47.9% 1996: Clinton - 49.2% 1992: Clinton - 43.0% 1988: Bush - 53.4% 1984: Reagan - 58.8% 1980: Reagan - 50.7% So in the last 40 years, Biden's win would rank as the 4th highest in terms of % of popular vote, even beating out Obama's 2nd term. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 7, 2021 18:23:07 GMT -5
Well, actually, while 7 million sounds like a nice big number, there were 158,394,605 votes cast. Biden received 51.3% of the popular vote, Trump 46.9% and 1.8% other. Without getting into politics, I do think that it fair to characterize our country as being almost split down the middle. Depends on how you look at it, I guess. Here is the % of votes received by the winner of the last several elections, to put Biden's 51.3% in perspective: 2016: Trump - 46.1% 2012: Obama - 51.1% 2008: Obama - 52.9% 2004: Bush - 50.7% 2000: Bush - 47.9% 1996: Clinton - 49.2% 1992: Clinton - 43.0% 1988: Bush - 53.4% 1984: Reagan - 58.8% 1980: Reagan - 50.7% So in the last 40 years, Biden's win would rank as the 4th highest in terms of % of popular vote, even beating out Obama's 2nd term. If we agree that split down the middle means 50/50, except for Reagan in 1984, which I think can be fairly characterize as 60/40, I don't see any other election in the last 40 years that would move out of the 50/50 range or considering the country split. One could argue that 60% of the people didn't want Clinton in 1992 but he still won the election with 43% of the popular vote. If you wanted to be technical and get away from rounding, I guess that you could say that the country is split 31/60ths to 28/60ths, with 1/60 selecting other. Irrespective of the semantics of it all, we are a country in need of healing and finding the middle, instead of the extremes. |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 7, 2021 18:46:19 GMT -5
I think the larger point is that a kid looking for a job shouldn't be narrowing his job interviews by even 51%.
Also, Qanon and its Jan 6th adherents, are not a good look to most soccer fans in the US, and almost all players worlwide. Why would an owner take a chance on a locker room pariah?
Believe what you want, but keep it out of the papers, as they used to say.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 7, 2021 19:37:15 GMT -5
I think the larger point is that a kid looking for a job shouldn't be narrowing his job interviews by even 51%. Also, Qanon and its Jan 6th adherents, are not a good look to most soccer fans in the US, and almost all players worlwide. Why would an owner take a chance on a locker room pariah? Believe what you want, but keep it out of the papers, as they used to say. exactly! |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 7, 2021 21:52:44 GMT -5
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Post by southsidestan on Jan 8, 2021 0:20:24 GMT -5
Regardless of his politics, his professional playing career at any level that the average person cares about is basically over. Unfortunately, he shared the same level of professionalism as Chris Goslin. Both had tremendous ability early. Both had a massive sense of entitlement. Neither realized that isn’t enough on its own to build a successful career. As a result, both washed out when they reached the level where everyone was good and the day-to-day quality of the professional work became a difference maker. Ronaldinho can go straight from a night out at the club to the field at the Camp Nou. An above average US U17 youth international cannot. At the end of the day that’s about where Carleton maxed out. Compare him to Sergio Dest. Then consider they’re the same age. There are so many better young Americans to cheer for. Here’s a good starter list: www.espn.com/soccer/united-states-usa/story/4201745/usmnts-top-25-under-23-pulisicreynamckennie-among-list-of-youngsters-to-be-excited-about |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Jan 8, 2021 9:52:46 GMT -5
Depends on how you look at it, I guess. Here is the % of votes received by the winner of the last several elections, to put Biden's 51.3% in perspective: 2016: Trump - 46.1% 2012: Obama - 51.1% 2008: Obama - 52.9% 2004: Bush - 50.7% 2000: Bush - 47.9% 1996: Clinton - 49.2% 1992: Clinton - 43.0% 1988: Bush - 53.4% 1984: Reagan - 58.8% 1980: Reagan - 50.7% So in the last 40 years, Biden's win would rank as the 4th highest in terms of % of popular vote, even beating out Obama's 2nd term. If we agree that split down the middle means 50/50, except for Reagan in 1984, which I think can be fairly characterize as 60/40, I don't see any other election in the last 40 years that would move out of the 50/50 range or considering the country split. One could argue that 60% of the people didn't want Clinton in 1992 but he still won the election with 43% of the popular vote. If you wanted to be technical and get away from rounding, I guess that you could say that the country is split 31/60ths to 28/60ths, with 1/60 selecting other. Irrespective of the semantics of it all, we are a country in need of healing and finding the middle, instead of the extremes. Oh I don't disagree with the "split", generally speaking, in our country. We've never been more divided. I was commenting on the vote itself, which IMO was not "almost split" when you compared the vote to recent presidential elections. |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 8, 2021 10:20:38 GMT -5
I think the larger point is that a kid looking for a job shouldn't be narrowing his job interviews by even 51%. Also, Qanon and its Jan 6th adherents, are not a good look to most soccer fans in the US, and almost all players worlwide. Why would an owner take a chance on a locker room pariah? Believe what you want, but keep it out of the papers, as they used to say. I agree completely. That was always Michael Jordan's reason for not entering into the political fray. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jan 8, 2021 10:29:53 GMT -5
I think the larger point is that a kid looking for a job shouldn't be narrowing his job interviews by even 51%. Also, Qanon and its Jan 6th adherents, are not a good look to most soccer fans in the US, and almost all players worlwide. Why would an owner take a chance on a locker room pariah? Believe what you want, but keep it out of the papers, as they used to say. I agree completely. That was always Michael Jordan's reason for not entering into the political fray. I agree. I try to leave politics out of most discussions and really off of anything written that is traced easily to me like social media, text, email. It used to be less of a big deal. People were not so hard core and fanatic. Now it can be friendship killer and certainly keep you out of a job or out of your preferred college. I have told my kid to be VERY careful on social media. Do not ruin your chances of getting into a school or future job because you posted something inappropriate or too polarizing |
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Post by mightydawg on Jan 8, 2021 10:38:03 GMT -5
I agree completely. That was always Michael Jordan's reason for not entering into the political fray. I agree. I try to leave politics out of most discussions and really off of anything written that is traced easily to me like social media, text, email. It used to be less of a big deal. People were not so hard core and fanatic. Now it can be friendship killer and certainly keep you out of a job or out of your preferred college. I have told my kid to be VERY careful on social media. Do not ruin your chances of getting into a school or future job because you posted something inappropriate or too polarizing I always loved the line from Michael Jordan when he said, "Republicans buy shoes too". With today's cancel culture, it is a good motto to follow. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jan 8, 2021 16:39:27 GMT -5
I agree. I try to leave politics out of most discussions and really off of anything written that is traced easily to me like social media, text, email. It used to be less of a big deal. People were not so hard core and fanatic. Now it can be friendship killer and certainly keep you out of a job or out of your preferred college. I have told my kid to be VERY careful on social media. Do not ruin your chances of getting into a school or future job because you posted something inappropriate or too polarizing I always loved the line from Michael Jordan when he said, "Republicans buy shoes too". With today's cancel culture, it is a good motto to follow. Just have to add... it's sad that it sounds like you (and many others, including myself for the most part) are not a fan of cancel culture and yet are beholding to it. I mean... I get it... but it just, well... sad. |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 9, 2021 12:14:56 GMT -5
I always loved the line from Michael Jordan when he said, "Republicans buy shoes too". With today's cancel culture, it is a good motto to follow. Just have to add... it's sad that it sounds like you (and many others, including myself for the most part) are not a fan of cancel culture and yet are beholding to it. I mean... I get it... but it just, well... sad. Saying someone will be ostracised by teammates and fans for being on Qcaine and going to an insurrection party where people died is not my definition of cancelling them, but I agree maybe we can be more generous and agree hes still just a kid and just hope he can find the help he needs. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jan 9, 2021 17:57:58 GMT -5
Just have to add... it's sad that it sounds like you (and many others, including myself for the most part) are not a fan of cancel culture and yet are beholding to it. I mean... I get it... but it just, well... sad. Saying someone will be ostracised by teammates and fans for being on Qcaine and going to an insurrection party where people died is not my definition of cancelling them, but I agree maybe we can be more generous and agree hes still just a kid and just hope he can find the help he needs. I was speaking in general terms to the comment I quoted. I didn't mention anything about the Carleton thing at all, but rather that cancel culture (again, in general) is causing the loss of free speech and that is never a good thing. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jan 9, 2021 18:37:57 GMT -5
Saying someone will be ostracised by teammates and fans for being on Qcaine and going to an insurrection party where people died is not my definition of cancelling them, but I agree maybe we can be more generous and agree hes still just a kid and just hope he can find the help he needs. I was speaking in general terms to the comment I quoted. I didn't mention anything about the Carleton thing at all, but rather that cancel culture (again, in general) is causing the loss of free speech and that is never a good thing. So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? |
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