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Post by footyfan on Jan 9, 2021 20:59:49 GMT -5
I was speaking in general terms to the comment I quoted. I didn't mention anything about the Carleton thing at all, but rather that cancel culture (again, in general) is causing the loss of free speech and that is never a good thing. So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? They aren't losing free speech. They are losing money by not considering what people think about what they say. Jordan understood that. He chose not to lose money. |
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Post by rifle on Jan 10, 2021 7:23:25 GMT -5
I was speaking in general terms to the comment I quoted. I didn't mention anything about the Carleton thing at all, but rather that cancel culture (again, in general) is causing the loss of free speech and that is never a good thing. So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? I love this conundrum. |
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Post by rifle on Jan 10, 2021 8:13:04 GMT -5
So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? I love this conundrum. Edit: not (yet?) listed on the roster for Indy 11 in 2021. www.indyeleven.com/2021-roster |
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Post by bogan on Jan 10, 2021 8:48:23 GMT -5
So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? I love this conundrum. I love the word conundrum. |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 10, 2021 10:09:11 GMT -5
Is he undercover as Mitch Guitar? |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 10, 2021 10:40:59 GMT -5
Classic!
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Post by rifle on Jan 10, 2021 12:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jan 10, 2021 16:56:37 GMT -5
I was speaking in general terms to the comment I quoted. I didn't mention anything about the Carleton thing at all, but rather that cancel culture (again, in general) is causing the loss of free speech and that is never a good thing. So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? Confused?? What does one have to do with the other? Free speech is a fundamental 'right' to all citizens , a market decision is a 'choice'... there is no line, there is either is free speech or there is not. |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 10, 2021 18:46:29 GMT -5
So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? Confused?? What does one have to do with the other? Free speech is a fundamental 'right' to all citizens , a market decision is a 'choice'... there is no line, there is either is free speech or there is not. There is always free speech. There's also always (hopefully) free markets. What you do with the former may decide what others do in the latter. |
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Post by rifle on Jan 10, 2021 19:33:22 GMT -5
So where does one draw the line between 'cancel culture' and 'let the market decide'? Confused?? What does one have to do with the other? Free speech is a fundamental 'right' to all citizens , a market decision is a 'choice'... there is no line, there is either is free speech or there is not. Who has lost free speech? |
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Post by footyfan on Jan 10, 2021 20:17:43 GMT -5
Confused?? What does one have to do with the other? Free speech is a fundamental 'right' to all citizens , a market decision is a 'choice'... there is no line, there is either is free speech or there is not. Who has lost free speech? No one. No one has lost free speech. |
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Post by flix on Jan 10, 2021 21:05:42 GMT -5
“Deep Thoughts” by Jack Handy
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Post by bogan on Jan 11, 2021 7:04:15 GMT -5
Who has lost free speech? No one. No one has lost free speech. No-more antitrust issues at play...but that’s a debate for a different platform...if your platform hasn’t been delisted...but I digress. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jan 11, 2021 8:42:42 GMT -5
back to the thread topic:
In my opinion their are multiple factors here and both Carleton and AU are responsible for what's happened the past few years. We can argue all day, how responsible the club is or should have been -- but we have discussed this topic at great lengths. We all have agreed, boys make stupid decisions, while that is not an excuse, a process needed to be in place from day 1 to help mentor and monitor these young homegrowns. That was not done from what I've heard. This is both on and off the field.
But I'm crazy, I still think the Falcons are somewhat at fault for the Vick fiasco -- you can't invest a 100 million in a player and not know what he is doing when he leaves your training facility. Someone within the organization should have known what was going on and let ownership know to given an ultimatum to stop.
I have no idea what the process is in Europe for these young players -- my guess is they just have more experience on how to foster young talent -- AU had zero experience and it showed.
Player --- Coach ---- Managment ---- Ownership have to be on the same page
I hate to see it happen, I always enjoyed watching him play, even with that weird gait in his step, that has seemed to be fixed. Kid just made things happen.
Given he hasn't been picked up still, and camp starts in 2 weeks -- is all you need to know (unless MLS logistics is holding him back).
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Post by bogan on Jan 11, 2021 9:02:11 GMT -5
“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear...”
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