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Post by mightydawg on Feb 14, 2021 20:55:14 GMT -5
I find it interesting that NTH, SSA, Roswell and Rush Union are not listed on the SCCL homepage. southeasternccl.com/ They are listed on the about page, which has current members. With some of these teams moving to DPL, are they pulling out of SCCL club? |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Feb 14, 2021 22:04:15 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to. When I pull up the SCCL site (the link you provided), I scroll down a little to just under where it shows Learn more -----> and I see club logos scrolling. All the clubs you mention are part of that scrolling club logo section.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 14, 2021 22:25:00 GMT -5
I see what they're talking about, it's significant, especially in light of SSA joining GA.
Rush is likely back to GA Soccer i bet.
Time for CF, GSA, AFU and UFA to join ECNL-RL (ECRL).
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Post by BubbleDad on Feb 14, 2021 22:34:49 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to. When I pull up the SCCL site (the link you provided), I scroll down a little to just under where it shows Learn more -----> and I see club logos scrolling. All the clubs you mention are part of that scrolling club logo section. I see what mightydawg is talking about as you scroll further down on the home page ... OMG ... |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Feb 15, 2021 7:31:48 GMT -5
Well, I still don't see what is being referenced but it isn't a big deal if I can see it or not. I do have a few opinions as to why they might be leaving...if they are.
1. We received our U14G schedule last week, and I noticed there is a second AFU team on the schedule. Apparently AFU South has been added to the Club Level for the spring. This can't make NTH & SSA happy. Why don't those clubs get a second team into SCCL Club level, but AFU does?
2. Recently I have spoken to a couple people affiliated with different clubs, and ECRL is definitely a hot topic. It is rumored that it will be here for the 2021-2022 season. If this is the case, my guess is NTH & SSA will not be a part of it since they are not a part of ECNL. I have no idea who would make up the league though.
3. I heard a rumor over the break that Rush Union would not be back as a Club Level team. It has been mentioned here before that they struggled to even field teams at every age level, and some of their teams have struggled mightily this year.
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Post by footyfan on Feb 15, 2021 7:58:31 GMT -5
Well, I still don't see what is being referenced but it isn't a big deal if I can see it or not. I do have a few opinions as to why they might be leaving...if they are. 1. We received our U14G schedule last week, and I noticed there is a second AFU team on the schedule. Apparently AFU South has been added to the Club Level for the spring. This can't make NTH & SSA happy. Why don't those clubs get a second team into SCCL Club level, but AFU does? 2. Recently I have spoken to a couple people affiliated with different clubs, and ECRL is definitely a hot topic. It is rumored that it will be here for the 2021-2022 season. If this is the case, my guess is NTH & SSA will not be a part of it since they are not a part of ECNL. I have no idea who would make up the league though. 3. I heard a rumor over the break that Rush Union would not be back as a Club Level team. It has been mentioned here before that they struggled to even field teams at every age level, and some of their teams have struggled mightily this year. You might be viewing a cached page. Refresh the page and/or delete cookies |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 15, 2021 8:02:21 GMT -5
I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to. When I pull up the SCCL site (the link you provided), I scroll down a little to just under where it shows Learn more -----> and I see club logos scrolling. All the clubs you mention are part of that scrolling club logo section. Same for me - I see all the clubs' crests/logos that scroll from right to left. And then I click on the "About" page and all of those clubs are still listed as "Club" level teams. |
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Post by bolo on Feb 15, 2021 9:10:13 GMT -5
Well, I still don't see what is being referenced but it isn't a big deal if I can see it or not. I do have a few opinions as to why they might be leaving...if they are. 1. We received our U14G schedule last week, and I noticed there is a second AFU team on the schedule. Apparently AFU South has been added to the Club Level for the spring. This can't make NTH & SSA happy. Why don't those clubs get a second team into SCCL Club level, but AFU does? On your question about the U14 Girls SCCL Club schedule including another AFU team- that team won the SCCL P-1 division in the fall, so it looks like they got promoted up to the Club division for the spring season. From what I can tell they did this in U13 Girls as well, with an SSA team getting promoted for the spring. So it wasn't any club being showed favoritism or being "given" an extra team into the Club division- they let teams earn their way up. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Feb 15, 2021 9:33:16 GMT -5
There is an link on the SCCL site that says teams in P1 will be promoted up to form a new "SuperClub" level in the Fall of 2021. I guess they went ahead and promoted those teams now. Does anyone know what will happen to the teams that finish first for the Spring season?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 15, 2021 9:53:34 GMT -5
There is an link on the SCCL site that says teams in P1 will be promoted up to form a new "SuperClub" level in the Fall of 2021. I guess they went ahead and promoted those teams now. Does anyone know what will happen to the teams that finish first for the Spring season? It may be due to older teams (U15 & higher) not playing spring seasons in SCCL except for the "U15 friendlies" that are being played. I think what they're doing is giving the promotion to U13 & U14 teams only for the spring, then promoting all ages next fall. I would imagine those U13-U14 teams promoted in the spring will just stay in SCCL-C in the fall. |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 15, 2021 10:01:14 GMT -5
I am viewing the SCCL site on a phone. If some are seeing what I am talking about and others are not, I wonder if the difference is a mobile site v viewing on a computer.
If that is the case, my bad. I just noticed when looking at schedules and seemed odd.
EDIT: It is the difference between a phone and computer. Computer has a scroll list of all clubs in SCCL including both club and premier. The mobile version does not. Just has 8 clubs listed. I am probably open pandora's box between the clubs about why some are listed on mobile and others are not.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 15, 2021 10:06:55 GMT -5
I am viewing the SCCL site on a phone. If some are seeing what I am talking about and others are not, I wonder if the difference is a mobile site v viewing on a computer. If that is the case, my bad. I just noticed when looking at schedules and seemed odd. I see what you're saying now - just pulled up on my cell and noticed the same thing. Yeah pulling up on a desktop you see all the clubs listed. All that being said, I DO think we're headed for another spring/summer of club movement & intrigue. |
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Post by roki12 on Feb 15, 2021 10:10:08 GMT -5
I am viewing the SCCL site on a phone. If some are seeing what I am talking about and others are not, I wonder if the difference is a mobile site v viewing on a computer. If that is the case, my bad. I just noticed when looking at schedules and seemed odd. No need to apologize, I think most people on this board like to analyze anything that might be something 😂 |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 15, 2021 10:15:06 GMT -5
I am viewing the SCCL site on a phone. If some are seeing what I am talking about and others are not, I wonder if the difference is a mobile site v viewing on a computer. If that is the case, my bad. I just noticed when looking at schedules and seemed odd. I see what you're saying now - just pulled up on my cell and noticed the same thing. Yeah pulling up on a desktop you see all the clubs listed. All that being said, I DO think we're headed for another spring/summer of club movement & intrigue. Any idea what UFA will do if NPL in the southeast goes away with SSA and AFC leaving? |
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Post by bogan on Feb 15, 2021 10:18:06 GMT -5
I see what you're saying now - just pulled up on my cell and noticed the same thing. Yeah pulling up on a desktop you see all the clubs listed. All that being said, I DO think we're headed for another spring/summer of club movement & intrigue. Any idea what UFA will do if NPL in the southeast goes away with SSA and AFC leaving? Panic🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 15, 2021 10:33:37 GMT -5
I see what you're saying now - just pulled up on my cell and noticed the same thing. Yeah pulling up on a desktop you see all the clubs listed. All that being said, I DO think we're headed for another spring/summer of club movement & intrigue. Any idea what UFA will do if NPL in the southeast goes away with SSA and AFC leaving? great question - not sure, but I plan to ask around. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 15, 2021 18:01:36 GMT -5
UFA should be leading the ECRL charge.
ECRL SE should be Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina.
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Post by atlutd17 on Feb 15, 2021 18:10:11 GMT -5
UFA should be leading the ECRL charge. ECRL SE should be Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina. Crazy thought here, how are those states any more competitive than the clubs in our own back yard? |
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Post by bogan on Feb 15, 2021 18:18:13 GMT -5
UFA should be leading the ECRL charge. ECRL SE should be Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina. Crazy thought here, how are those states any more competitive than the clubs in our own back yard? 🤔😉 |
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 15, 2021 18:34:49 GMT -5
UFA should be leading the ECRL charge. ECRL SE should be Georgia, Alabama, Tennessee and South Carolina. Crazy thought here, how are those states any more competitive than the clubs in our own back yard? Completely agree. |
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Post by bogan on Feb 15, 2021 18:39:33 GMT -5
Crazy thought here, how are those states any more competitive than the clubs in our own back yard? Completely agree. Yeah-just cost more for the privilege of traveling and playing in another alphabet league. |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 16, 2021 10:34:27 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer):
GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC
DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter
ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU
SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush...
Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer?
So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL.
This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams):
ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL
It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough...
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 16, 2021 10:51:10 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer): GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush... Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer? So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL. This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams): ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough... So do you know for sure that UFA is leaving NPL? Or just guessing based on movement of other clubs away from that league? |
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Post by atlfutboldad on Feb 16, 2021 11:00:28 GMT -5
I'm guessing that with Surf, SSA and AFC out of NPL...SAPL is done. Unless they invite AFU, GSA, and Concorde (and maybe others). Surely they don't have NTH hubris to be in a league with no other local members.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Feb 16, 2021 11:11:16 GMT -5
I'm guessing that with Surf, SSA and AFC out of NPL...SAPL is done. Unless they invite AFU, GSA, and Concorde (and maybe others). Surely they don't have NTH hubris to be in a league with no other local members. Gotcha. And I agree, was just wondering if you'd heard anything definitive. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 16, 2021 11:16:06 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer): GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush... Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer? So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL. This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams): ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough... Why the ? after AFC and SSA in DPL. Those were both announced. I agree that it makes no sense for UFA to stay in NPL with second teams. It seems like NPL/SAPL changes every year...teams coming in and teams going out. The uncertainty is not good IMO. Not sure that DPL has less name recognition than ECRL. I think that depends on where you live. DPL existed before ECRL in the southwest and had a very strong reputation back its first two years. East Coast though I agree probably ECRL Regardless UFA should do ECRL and so should everyone else. |
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Post by soccernoleuk on Feb 16, 2021 11:42:06 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer): GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush... Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer? So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL. This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams): ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough... Why do you not have NTH & SSA listed as part of SCCL Club, has that officially been announced? I can see SSA not having a team there since they are adding GA & DPL, but NTH isn't really changing the top of their structure and they are currently part of SCCL Club and doing well. Personally I wish SCCL Club would change to ECRL. However, with SC teams already part of the Carolina league and Tennessee girls playing High School in the fall, what clubs do you use to create the league. If FC Alabama (BUSA) is part of it, I would like to see a second team in Alabama so it isn't a day trip for a single game. |
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Post by footyfan on Feb 16, 2021 11:45:58 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer): GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush... Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer? So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL. This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams): ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough... Why the ? after AFC and SSA in DPL. Those were both announced. I agree that it makes no sense for UFA to stay in NPL with second teams. It seems like NPL/SAPL changes every year...teams coming in and teams going out. The uncertainty is not good IMO. Not sure that DPL has less name recognition than ECRL. I think that depends on where you live. DPL existed before ECRL in the southwest and had a very strong reputation back its first two years. East Coast though I agree probably ECRL Regardless UFA should do ECRL and so should everyone else. I agree, but note that it is not up to the club if they "do" ECRL. ECRL should come to Southeast in a bigger capacity than just Carolinas or Florida as a) support for the clubs in ECNL and b) a proving ground for those that aren't in ECNL. |
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Post by mightydawg on Feb 16, 2021 11:53:31 GMT -5
Its all a recruiting game. This is what we know so far, the state is splitting up (for girls soccer): GA: NTH (2), SSA, AFC DPL: NTH, SSA?, AFC?, Inter ECNL: Concorde (2), UFA, GSA, AFU SCCL Club: Concorde, UFA, GSA, AFU, Ambush... Does Roswell go back to GA Soccer? So where should the ECNL clubs put their 2nd teams? If you're trying to recruit, ECNL-Regional League has better name recognition than DPL. But the DPL (and formerly NPL) name recognition is better than SCCL. This is how I see the weighting of league's name recognition (for leagues not clubs or teams): ECNL >> GA >> ECRL >> DPL >> SCCL It would be a different story if all the clubs (AFC, Inter, etc) were willing to put their 2nd teams into the same club-based league. If those teams are strong enough... Why do you not have NTH & SSA listed as part of SCCL Club, has that officially been announced? I can see SSA not having a team there since they are adding GA & DPL, but NTH isn't really changing the top of their structure and they are currently part of SCCL Club and doing well. Personally I wish SCCL Club would change to ECRL. However, with SC teams already part of the Carolina league and Tennessee girls playing High School in the fall, what clubs do you use to create the league. If FC Alabama (BUSA) is part of it, I would like to see a second team in Alabama so it isn't a day trip for a single game. I really haven't minded the day trip to BUSA and it saves on the hotel expense-2.5 hour drive, play a game, get something to eat, and 2.5 hour drive back. The trip to Knoxville on the other hand may be different. It would be nice to add a second team in Tennessee to SCCL Club. 3.5 hours each way for one game is going to be tough. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Feb 16, 2021 12:28:12 GMT -5
Why the ? after AFC and SSA in DPL. Those were both announced. I agree that it makes no sense for UFA to stay in NPL with second teams. It seems like NPL/SAPL changes every year...teams coming in and teams going out. The uncertainty is not good IMO. Not sure that DPL has less name recognition than ECRL. I think that depends on where you live. DPL existed before ECRL in the southwest and had a very strong reputation back its first two years. East Coast though I agree probably ECRL Regardless UFA should do ECRL and so should everyone else. I agree, but note that it is not up to the club if they "do" ECRL. ECRL should come to Southeast in a bigger capacity than just Carolinas or Florida as a) support for the clubs in ECNL and b) a proving ground for those that aren't in ECNL. Agreed about ECRL coming here. UFA probably could just "do" it in another state if they wanted and it would be better than NPL and same travel that they would be stuck with now. However, I meant that UFA has enough of a voice to start campaigning for it amongst the current SCCL Club teams. It would be to all of their PLAYERS' benefits. Whether the clubs are willing to give up some control is another story. |
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