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Post by footyfan on Mar 11, 2021 7:01:09 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 7:28:07 GMT -5
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Post by guest on Mar 11, 2021 7:41:46 GMT -5
...cowbell?
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 11, 2021 8:12:40 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 8:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 11, 2021 8:23:53 GMT -5
i was scooped by footyfanhere is my tweet on it:
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 8:44:36 GMT -5
i was scooped by footyfanhere is my tweet on it: I was hoping you’d Tweet how you really felt...
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 11, 2021 8:59:56 GMT -5
Ha! - its disgusting what has happened to youth soccer in 10 years. Flat our disturbing.
The only true positive is this -- kids have many options for sure.
I was extremely naïve, I thought an MLS academy would bring balance to youth soccer in Georgia and truly create a clear hierarchy and development strategy. I was naïve and envisioned a collaborative process similar to GA United and Concorde's old DA (concorde wasn't necessary collaborative, but was a huge destination club). I know I'm mixing multiple things together, but the MLS has driven much of this madness over the past few years. At the end of the day - US Soccer, US youth Soccer, US club are ripping the game apart. State organizations are basically irrelevant in the modern landscape.
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 9:14:01 GMT -5
I feel like we use “elite” and “premier” way too much...
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Post by mistergrinch on Mar 11, 2021 9:18:59 GMT -5
I feel like we use “elite” and “premier” way too much... Coming Soon:
ULTRASUPREME FUTBOL LEAGUE!
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 9:29:03 GMT -5
I feel like we use “elite” and “premier” way too much... Coming Soon:
ULTRASUPREME FUTBOL LEAGUE!
Sounds like lunch at grande burrito...
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on Mar 11, 2021 11:25:22 GMT -5
With the introduction of MLS Next, GAL, the collaboration of with USYS, PRO, degradation of DPL, the eviscerations of NPL, ECNL getting revamped and new clubs like AFC and SSA going by way of the big boy/girl leagues now, this tryout season is going to be one big on-going cluster. Folks have a year of being unable to get their tryout fix and that includes Directors, Coaches, Parents, Players and everyone in-between. There will be big names returning to the local soccer landscape, there will be others leaving. I say sit back, strap in and enjoy the chaos that is coming. I for one will have my popcorn and wine ready. Before it begins I wish you all Good-luck and my ardent wish that all goes well for you this tryout season...
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 11, 2021 11:45:55 GMT -5
With the introduction of MLS Next, GAL, the collaboration of with USYS, PRO, degradation of DPL, the eviscerations of NPL, ECNL getting revamped and new clubs like AFC and SSA going by way of the big boy/girl leagues now, this tryout season is going to be one big on-going cluster. Folks have a year of being unable to get their tryout fix and that includes Directors, Coaches, Parents, Players and everyone in-between. There will be big names returning to the local soccer landscape, there will be others leaving. I say sit back, strap in and enjoy the chaos that is coming. I for one will have my popcorn and wine ready. Before it begins I wish you all Good-luck and my ardent wish that all goes well for you this tryout season... What do you mean by "big names returning to the local soccer landscape, there will be others leaving"? Is that players or coaches and directors?
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 11, 2021 12:03:54 GMT -5
We as parents are the fools drinking the kool-aid with the belief that the formation of new leagues or joining new leagues is going to do anything other than make our pocketbooks a little lighter.. With each newly formed league the fees also increase as well- not to mention the travel expenses on top of that ..It's the same players playing in each age group just being recycled around and around at a greater expense to we the parents...In addition, how many players will jump ship from their current clubs for the possibility (no guarantee) for newly formed greener pastures? It's a gamble as the formation of all these new leagues dilutes the strength of all the existing leagues. At the end of the day does traveling to the Carolinas or FL create better competition that what exists in the metro ATL? Highly doubtful... Wish local talent could play against local talent and save the out of state travel for tournaments..
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 11, 2021 12:11:53 GMT -5
Other than hopes and dreams, how do we get there?
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 12:22:18 GMT -5
I speak from the position of having a boy-but I have always said that the competition around the state of Georgia, especially Atlanta, was as good as anywhere in the neighboring states. You could argue that point with SC/NC but those teams can be played in tournaments. It would cut the travel; and therefore, the expense down tremendously. Most boys will not get a scholarship for playing soccer. If they do, it will not be a full ride. Save your money...enjoy the ride.
BTW-the creation of all these leagues and the rebranding was the reason I used the poop emoji-cause that’s what these guys are marketing/selling...
Putting the soap box away now...😬
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 11, 2021 12:40:13 GMT -5
I speak from the position of having a boy-but I have always said that the competition around the state of Georgia, especially Atlanta, was as good as anywhere in the neighboring states. You could argue that point with SC/NC but those teams can be played in tournaments. It would cut the travel; and therefore, the expense down tremendously. Most boys will not get a scholarship for playing soccer. If they do, it will not be a full ride. Save your money...enjoy the ride. BTW-the creation of all these leagues and the rebranding was the reason I used the poop emoji-cause that’s what these guys are marketing/selling... Putting the soap box away now...😬 You seem to be a coach, so you need to stop talking about not getting scholarships in soccer - the landscape has changed! It is now allowed to stack need-based and merit-based aid on top of equivalency sport scholarships like men’s soccer. Basically this means that any school can fully fund their men’s soccer team now.
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 12:49:14 GMT -5
I speak from the position of having a boy-but I have always said that the competition around the state of Georgia, especially Atlanta, was as good as anywhere in the neighboring states. You could argue that point with SC/NC but those teams can be played in tournaments. It would cut the travel; and therefore, the expense down tremendously. Most boys will not get a scholarship for playing soccer. If they do, it will not be a full ride. Save your money...enjoy the ride. BTW-the creation of all these leagues and the rebranding was the reason I used the poop emoji-cause that’s what these guys are marketing/selling... Putting the soap box away now...😬 You seem to be a coach, so you need to stop talking about not getting scholarships in soccer - the landscape has changed! It is now allowed to stack need-based and merit-based aid on top of equivalency sport scholarships like men’s soccer. Basically this means that any school can fully fund their men’s soccer team now. When they actually do, I will stop talking about it...but from what I’ve seen, colleges are dropping programs. But...I do hope you are right.
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 13:06:39 GMT -5
Speaking of scholarships...what I’d like to see are more club based scholarships. I know of several clubs that give these...although they are usually small amounts , it still helps ...and it makes me feel like they are true “non-profits.”
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 11, 2021 13:22:29 GMT -5
Well, at the very least we know that D1 schools now have access to that nebulous monetary aid cloud without any of those funds counting against their 9.9 athletic scholarship allotment.
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 13:26:10 GMT -5
Well, at the very least we know that D1 schools now have access to that nebulous monetary aid cloud without any of those funds counting against their 9.9 athletic scholarship allotment. Valid.
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 11, 2021 13:53:16 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole fascination with college sports scholarships. If the goal is to pay for college, it would be much better to take the $2,500+ (in some cases, $8,000 to $10,000) that is being spent on soccer each year and put it into a college scholarship fund and take the time that is being spent on soccer and use it to study on prepare for the SAT/ACT. Now, if a kid gets to U15 or so and is really good and wants to play in college, then the scholarship may enter the thought process but until that point, it is a waste of time, energy and resources.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 11, 2021 14:18:01 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole fascination with college sports scholarships. If the goal is to pay for college, it would be much better to take the $2,500+ (in some cases, $8,000 to $10,000) that is being spent on soccer each year and put it into a college scholarship fund and take the time that is being spent on soccer and use it to study on prepare for the SAT/ACT. Now, if a kid gets to U15 or so and is really good and wants to play in college, then the scholarship may enter the thought process but until that point, it is a waste of time, energy and resources. No question. Our kids want to play in college, but we are not spending a lot of time worrying about scholarships. Half of the teams my older one is looking at don't even have athletic scholarships (Ivy league and D3 schools are 8 of her top 20 choices). She just wants to play good quality competitive soccer for as long as she can. But financially it makes zero sense to look at it in terms of scholarship money unless you are getting a free ride at the club (very rare).
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 11, 2021 14:19:13 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole fascination with college sports scholarships. If the goal is to pay for college, it would be much better to take the $2,500+ (in some cases, $8,000 to $10,000) that is being spent on soccer each year and put it into a college scholarship fund and take the time that is being spent on soccer and use it to study on prepare for the SAT/ACT. Now, if a kid gets to U15 or so and is really good and wants to play in college, then the scholarship may enter the thought process but until that point, it is a waste of time, energy and resources. Plus at this point not sure spending money on ACT/SAT prep is wise either. A lot of schools have dropped the requirements for 2022 grads. The feeling is it may go away entirely.
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Post by ball2futbol on Mar 11, 2021 15:31:02 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole fascination with college sports scholarships. If the goal is to pay for college, it would be much better to take the $2,500+ (in some cases, $8,000 to $10,000) that is being spent on soccer each year and put it into a college scholarship fund and take the time that is being spent on soccer and use it to study on prepare for the SAT/ACT. Now, if a kid gets to U15 or so and is really good and wants to play in college, then the scholarship may enter the thought process but until that point, it is a waste of time, energy and resources. Point well taken but you’re seriously minimizing my personal entertainment value! An opportunity to watch young healthy kids (which isn’t promised to any of us), especially your own, compete at their highest individual level! Can’t put a price on that. I’m just trying to ride the wave as long as I can and bank some #girldad memories with them for my later years! Plus most kids pursuing scholarships know or should also know that academics are weighted heavily in those decisions. Extra motivation of hitting the books without my needling to do so! Win-win!
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 11, 2021 15:40:22 GMT -5
I don't understand the whole fascination with college sports scholarships. If the goal is to pay for college, it would be much better to take the $2,500+ (in some cases, $8,000 to $10,000) that is being spent on soccer each year and put it into a college scholarship fund and take the time that is being spent on soccer and use it to study on prepare for the SAT/ACT. Now, if a kid gets to U15 or so and is really good and wants to play in college, then the scholarship may enter the thought process but until that point, it is a waste of time, energy and resources. Point well taken but you’re seriously minimizing my personal entertainment value! An opportunity to watch young healthy kids (which isn’t promised to any of us), especially your own, compete at their highest individual level! Can’t put a price on that. I’m just trying to ride the wave as long as I can and bank some #girldad memories with them for my later years! Plus most kids pursuing scholarships know or should also know that academics are weighted heavily in those decisions. Extra motivation of hitting the books without my needling to do so! Win-win! Right, that was kind of my point. The reasons kids should play sports are to improve physical health; lifelong well being; social skills; teamwork; build self esteem and confidence; competition; learn life lessons; make new friends; time management; stay out of trouble; etc. The reasons that parents should pay for it are the reasons listed above; create memories; spend time with your child; keep them out of trouble; etc. Scholarships are not even part of the equation in my book. If the end result is that some coach at some college wants my kid to play, that is really great and fits into all of the other reasons that sports are important but it not part of the reasons that we encourage sports.
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Post by bogan on Mar 11, 2021 15:44:54 GMT -5
Yep-definitely need more cowbell...🤣
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 11, 2021 15:55:59 GMT -5
Wow - great points! But this $ access change has the potential to impact boys soccer a great deal - from a perception context. Great players might be less likely to drop soccer for other sports (at parents’ insistence, of course) if they knew the pipe dream exists for soccer as well as for the other sports. It might only lead to 1 or 2 additional National players and a handful of other players that end up playing professionally, but it’s a step in the right direction, IMO. As I always say, the fastest way U.S. soccer can improve on the men’s side is to do a better job of attracting and retaining the top talent at the critical decision point in an athlete’s career. Business school 101.
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Post by baller84 on Mar 12, 2021 9:52:40 GMT -5
Even if we somehow attract top talent, we won't be able to retain it without the passion for soccer and a healthy foundation. And for that, we need a culture change I do not see happen anytime soon. It's a DNA thing tied to $.
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Post by bogan on Mar 12, 2021 14:09:04 GMT -5
Weekend. Yep. That’s what we need.
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