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Post by firedragon on Mar 16, 2021 19:50:24 GMT -5
It looks like SSA has SCCL teams in several locations. At which location should you tryout to get on SSA’s most competitive SCCL teams?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 16, 2021 20:23:36 GMT -5
It looks like SSA has SCCL teams in several locations. At which location should you tryout to get on SSA’s most competitive SCCL teams? Pretty sure it's their Marietta location that plays out of Mud Creek. |
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Post by Keeper on Mar 16, 2021 22:38:42 GMT -5
It looks like SSA has SCCL teams in several locations. At which location should you tryout to get on SSA’s most competitive SCCL teams? Guessing you’re talking about the top Club level teams? SSA has club level teams out of a Northside, Dekalb and Cobb branches. I know off hand Dekalb has the 04 and 05 boys and Northside has the 03 Boys. |
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Post by soccerdownsouth on Mar 17, 2021 11:10:26 GMT -5
20-21 SCCL-C:
Central: 07B, 07G, 06G, 06B, 05G, 04G, 03G
Dekalb: 05B, 04B
Northside: 08G, 08B, 03B
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on Mar 17, 2021 11:13:48 GMT -5
20-21 SCCL-C: Central: 07B, 07G, 06G, 06B, 05G, 04G, 03G Dekalb: 05B, 04B Northside: 08G, 08B, 03B Question for you - how did they decide on those teams to play SCCL-C? Did they just take the best teams at each age group that were not already playing NPL or in some other league considered to be higher level than SCCL? That appears to be the case. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 22, 2021 7:51:27 GMT -5
SSA has Club level SCCL teams in various branches and it always depends on the age group and the strength of that particular team. Yes most of the Club level SCCL teams are based in the Cobb location but not all.
Prior to covid the club did tend to get all the age group teams to come scrimmage each other one night toward the end of spring to both find good players on lower teams and also to kind of see the hierarchy of where the teams stand to get a feel of placement the next year in what division of SCCL or NPL or whatever.
Ultimately like all clubs with branch locations I'm sure the powers that be would love for all the good kids just to come and play and train at the Cobb location, but I am glad there are parents that refuse to do that due to the drive or the kid wanting to play with their team etc... and that forces SSA and other clubs in some instances to make a higher level team in a branch location instead of their main one. I'm kind of tired of big mega clubs plucking the best players at branch locations and then pretty much not caring about that branch location once they do it. The best of the best sure pluck them as they need to be somewhere else but once you get to NPL or lower just let the kids play with their friends at their branch location and strive to make that team a well rounded team rather than just trashing it after you pluck the best players from it.
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 22, 2021 11:17:46 GMT -5
SSA has Club level SCCL teams in various branches and it always depends on the age group and the strength of that particular team. Yes most of the Club level SCCL teams are based in the Cobb location but not all. Prior to covid the club did tend to get all the age group teams to come scrimmage each other one night toward the end of spring to both find good players on lower teams and also to kind of see the hierarchy of where the teams stand to get a feel of placement the next year in what division of SCCL or NPL or whatever. Ultimately like all clubs with branch locations I'm sure the powers that be would love for all the good kids just to come and play and train at the Cobb location, but I am glad there are parents that refuse to do that due to the drive or the kid wanting to play with their team etc... and that forces SSA and other clubs in some instances to make a higher level team in a branch location instead of their main one. I'm kind of tired of big mega clubs plucking the best players at branch locations and then pretty much not caring about that branch location once they do it. The best of the best sure pluck them as they need to be somewhere else but once you get to NPL or lower just let the kids play with their friends at their branch location and strive to make that team a well rounded team rather than just trashing it after you pluck the best players from it. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 22, 2021 11:27:32 GMT -5
Yes this happened with SSA Coweta now there is hardly anything left and the majority of "normal" players now have to travel play in Fayette or metro Atl.. If these mega clubs would build up their base and not just use their branches as places to pick off their best players they could thrive... There are a whole lot of players that want to improve and play in High School and that is it... Just seems all of the energy and focus is solely on the elite...
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Post by bogan on Mar 22, 2021 12:48:55 GMT -5
Yes this happened with SSA Coweta now there is hardly anything left and the majority of "normal" players now have to travel play in Fayette or metro Atl.. If these mega clubs would build up their base and not just use their branches as places to pick off their best players they could thrive... There are a whole lot of players that want to improve and play in High School and that is it... Just seems all of the energy and focus is solely on the elite... A lifetime ago, when the Newnan/Coweta travel team was the Cannons, they had pretty solid boys teams. I still remember them being pretty good during the first few years of SSA. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 22, 2021 15:22:34 GMT -5
Yes this happened with SSA Coweta now there is hardly anything left and the majority of "normal" players now have to travel play in Fayette or metro Atl.. If these mega clubs would build up their base and not just use their branches as places to pick off their best players they could thrive... There are a whole lot of players that want to improve and play in High School and that is it... Just seems all of the energy and focus is solely on the elite... I do feel the new director (Jordan Tant) is trying his hardest to build it back up but it is going to take years if he is even successful at all and by the time it is built back up both my kids will be in high school or college. Honestly once you get past the 1st team at AFC their other teams are not very good either, so my kid moving to AFC makes no sense since new players need to be little Messi's to get on a 1st team anywhere if you haven't been with the club for a long time, so he would be stuck playing on a team the same caliber as his current team at the Coweta SSA location. Then there is MOBA who does have some good teams, but they also tend to carry 22-24 kids on a roster and even though they could make 2 teams in some age groups that would almost be equal in quality they refuse and instead have to make kids choose which games or tournaments they aren't going to play in to keep the game day roster at 18. I know people that left my son's team that are getting only 10-15 mins playing time a game, and I just wonder why someone would pay $1600-1700 for that type of playing time even if the team was good when you can get likely full game playing time on the team at SSA. My kid is a good soccer player definitely above average but he isn't DA/MLS caliber. He's probably a 2nd team caliber player, and it seems SSA really doesn't care once you go below DA/MLS level or that is my perception with kids in SSA for many years now. He is probably better than his current SSA team but the only option on the southside for him given the issues with AFC/MOBA above would be to probably try out at the Cobb SSA location in hopes he could get on a higher team there and maybe split training 1 day in Coweta and 1 day in Cobb. I really wish AFC and SSA Coweta would merge to be honest and pool all the players to compete with MOBA. That would require SSA Coweta to leave SSA though. |
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Post by bogan on Mar 22, 2021 15:42:39 GMT -5
MOBA has been good for us-the large team size isn’t usually an issue b/c of injuries, etc. can’t speak for all the coaches but ours tried to be fair with playing time. Training is good-according to a parent that knows, practices on par with KSA. It’s not a perfect world but it’s the best that we’ve encountered so far.
I would say be careful what you wish for with AFC.
I’m sure with all the people moving into Coweta/Newnan that SSA will eventually get back to full strength-especially If they have a good director.
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 22, 2021 16:13:19 GMT -5
MOBA has been good for us-the large team size isn’t usually an issue b/c of injuries, etc. can’t speak for all the coaches but ours tried to be fair with playing time. Training is good-according to a parent that knows, practices on par with KSA. It’s not a perfect world but it’s the best that we’ve encountered so far. I would say be careful what you wish for with AFC. I’m sure with all the people moving into Coweta/Newnan that SSA will eventually get back to full strength-especially If they have a good director. I know kids that left that also get great amounts of playing time and there is no doubt the training is pretty good. I've seen and hear about it first hand with kid's parents I'm still friends with that likely play with your kid on the same team. These kids getting good amounts of playing time were the top players of my kid's team especially one striker in particular, the others that went to MOBA aren't getting near the playing time than if they had stayed with SSA, and the others that left just went back to SSA recreation because they also play football and had no time to play club soccer and juggle training for both HS football and club soccer in the fall. What sucks is that my son's age group had an awesome team that was probably the 2nd or 3rd best team of all the SSA locations at that age group even scrimmaging their DA team to a draw a few times when they got together, and they all just went their separate ways. Sucks, but it is what it is. Most of the kids leaving I put at the foot of SSA for the way it was run for years and years, and it was not necessarily the old directors down there, it was the level (or lack there of) support from the central location of SSA to build branch locations up. They take the money but spend it all at Cobb. The south location had been understaffed for years, but SSA was unwilling to spend the money needed to get good coaches down there, and thus attrition happened. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 22, 2021 16:16:16 GMT -5
MOBA has been good for us-the large team size isn’t usually an issue b/c of injuries, etc. can’t speak for all the coaches but ours tried to be fair with playing time. Training is good-according to a parent that knows, practices on par with KSA. It’s not a perfect world but it’s the best that we’ve encountered so far. I would say be careful what you wish for with AFC. I’m sure with all the people moving into Coweta/Newnan that SSA will eventually get back to full strength-especially If they have a good director. I know kids that left that also get great amounts of playing time and there is no doubt the training is pretty good. I've seen and hear about it first hand with kid's parents I'm still friends with that likely play with your kid on the same team. These kids getting good amounts of playing time were the top players of my kid's team especially one striker in particular, the others that went to MOBA aren't getting near the playing time than if they had stayed with SSA, and the others that left just went back to SSA recreation because they also play football and had no time to play club soccer and juggle training for both HS football and club soccer in the fall. What sucks is that my son's age group had an awesome team that was probably the 2nd or 3rd best team of all the SSA locations at that age group and they all just went their separate ways. Sucks, but it is what it is. Most of the kids leaving I put at the foot of SSA for the way it was run for years and years, and it was not necessarily the old directors down there, it was the level (or lack there of) support from the central location of SSA to build branch locations up. They take the money but spend it all at Cobb. The south location had been understaffed for years, but SSA was unwilling to spend the money needed to get good coaches down there, and thus attrition happened. |
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 22, 2021 16:16:41 GMT -5
MOBA has been good for us-the large team size isn’t usually an issue b/c of injuries, etc. can’t speak for all the coaches but ours tried to be fair with playing time. Training is good-according to a parent that knows, practices on par with KSA. It’s not a perfect world but it’s the best that we’ve encountered so far. I would say be careful what you wish for with AFC. I’m sure with all the people moving into Coweta/Newnan that SSA will eventually get back to full strength-especially If they have a good director. I preferred the southside landscape when it was South Metro Lightning, Peachtree City Lasers, and Coweta Cannons. |
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Post by bogan on Mar 22, 2021 16:23:53 GMT -5
MOBA has been good for us-the large team size isn’t usually an issue b/c of injuries, etc. can’t speak for all the coaches but ours tried to be fair with playing time. Training is good-according to a parent that knows, practices on par with KSA. It’s not a perfect world but it’s the best that we’ve encountered so far. I would say be careful what you wish for with AFC. I’m sure with all the people moving into Coweta/Newnan that SSA will eventually get back to full strength-especially If they have a good director. I preferred the southside landscape when it was South Metro Lightning, Peachtree City Lasers, and Coweta Cannons. Yeah-late 80s/90s |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 22, 2021 16:37:50 GMT -5
I preferred the southside landscape when it was South Metro Lightning, Peachtree City Lasers, and Coweta Cannons. Yeah-late 80s/90s Lol it dates me but I played for Cannons in the late 80's early 90's. Ah the good ole days.... |
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 22, 2021 16:45:32 GMT -5
Lol it dates me but I played for Cannons in the late 80's early 90's. Ah the good ole days.... I played for Fayette County Rec department and then South Metro Lightning during that same time period. |
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Post by ursu22 on Mar 22, 2021 16:49:33 GMT -5
I preferred the southside landscape when it was South Metro Lightning, Peachtree City Lasers, and Coweta Cannons. Yeah-late 80s/90s |
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Post by rifle on Mar 22, 2021 18:30:39 GMT -5
I really wish AFC and SSA Coweta would merge to be honest and pool all the players to compete with MOBA. That would require SSA Coweta to leave SSA though. Yeah but then some kids would have to be on a 2nd/3rd team... and that’s just unacceptable to a lot of people. |
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Post by bogan on Mar 22, 2021 18:39:03 GMT -5
I really wish AFC and SSA Coweta would merge to be honest and pool all the players to compete with MOBA. That would require SSA Coweta to leave SSA though. Yeah but then some kids would have to be on a 2nd/3rd team... and that’s just unacceptable to a lot of people. As long as it’s not MY kid I’m fine with it...😆😉 |
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Post by rifle on Mar 22, 2021 20:07:53 GMT -5
Yeah but then some kids would have to be on a 2nd/3rd team... and that’s just unacceptable to a lot of people. As long as it’s not MY kid I’m fine with it...😆😉 touche |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 22, 2021 21:31:51 GMT -5
Agree that SSA Coweta was nothing more than a picking ground to entice a few players to come up to join their "elite" league. With the exception of a few boys teams SSA had put zero effort into building the program up in this area. It's sad that this has happened as the potential to have a great program is definitely there.The $$$ has gone up to the main SSA locations with no local investment . Do not mention the issues as well as perception with paid "parent" coaches that were allowed to hang on season after season when they should have been removed.
Coweta is a growing area - they can totally support a great program if some club/group had the wherewithal to make it happen.
It's a shame that so many Coweta players have to venture out of county to find a halfway decent soccer program.
If one would look at the rosters at AFC I would bet at least half of the players reside in Coweta on the majority of those teams.. Even a good handful at MOBA live in Coweta as well...
AFC and MOBA could merge their resources and create a viable option for Fayette kids but it seems as there is so much competition between the 2 clubs across the street from one another ... A Fresh club new to Coweta that believes in teaching kids how to play soccer and develop as players should come in and grow Coweta. SSA may still have a few boys teams that call Coweta home but I am pretty sure the girls teams have all disintegrated...Too many years of poor management should mean it's time for SSA to put all there efforts where their heart is and let Coweta find a club that can make it happen...
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Post by cobbsoccerm on Mar 22, 2021 21:40:20 GMT -5
Just wanted to add that MOBA is only about 40 minutes from Campbell Middle. Check out GA Alliance - www.gafccobb.com. Smaller rosters, great coaching and strong teams. Definitely worth a look and not that far from the South side. |
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Post by Keeper on Mar 22, 2021 21:41:39 GMT -5
Agree that SSA Coweta was nothing more than a picking ground to entice a few players to come up to join their "elite" league. With the exception of a few boys teams SSA had put zero effort into building the program up in this area. It's sad that this has happened as the potential to have a great program is definitely there.The $$$ has gone up to the main SSA locations with no local investment . Do not mention the issues as well as perception with paid "parent" coaches that were allowed to hang on season after season when they should have been removed. Coweta is a growing area - they can totally support a great program if some club/group had the wherewithal to make it happen. It's a shame that so many Coweta players have to venture out of county to find a halfway decent soccer program. If one would look at the rosters at AFC I would bet at least half of the players reside in Coweta on the majority of those teams.. Even a good handful at MOBA live in Coweta as well... AFC and MOBA could merge their resources and create a viable option for Fayette kids but it seems as there is so much competition between the 2 clubs across the street from one another ... A Fresh club new to Coweta that believes in teaching kids how to play soccer and develop as players should come in and grow Coweta. SSA may still have a few boys teams that call Coweta home but I am pretty sure the girls teams have all disintegrated...Too many years of poor management should mean it's time for SSA to put all there efforts where their heart is and let Coweta find a club that can make it happen... Where is the SSA Coweta fields? And who runs them? (county? City? Private?) If they’re under utilized then maybe the owners would allow another group to come in and share. That’s pretty much what happened at Sav United as Tormenta/old Storm had a foot in the day at Jennifer Ross Complex and now with higher numbers are able to negotiate more access. Hmm….what about this UFA Coweta? 😂😂 |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 22, 2021 22:03:31 GMT -5
The County owns the fields. There are 2: Whitlock which is in a flood plain right off the interstate as the land was donated by the Yamaha factory in the late 80s/90s and Central Fields which are newer - within the past 10 years - and located on the East side of the county closer to Fayette.. There is a decent rec program for little kiddos but that is about it.. I have not a clue what the agreement/arrangement is with field space and Coweta/SSA but I don't think it would be very difficult to flip the program if it was handled correctly with the right intentions....
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Post by bogan on Mar 23, 2021 5:57:29 GMT -5
“... if it was handled correctly with the right intentions....”
And therein lies the rub...
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 23, 2021 7:10:00 GMT -5
Agree that SSA Coweta was nothing more than a picking ground to entice a few players to come up to join their "elite" league. With the exception of a few boys teams SSA had put zero effort into building the program up in this area. It's sad that this has happened as the potential to have a great program is definitely there.The $$$ has gone up to the main SSA locations with no local investment . Do not mention the issues as well as perception with paid "parent" coaches that were allowed to hang on season after season when they should have been removed. Coweta is a growing area - they can totally support a great program if some club/group had the wherewithal to make it happen. It's a shame that so many Coweta players have to venture out of county to find a halfway decent soccer program. If one would look at the rosters at AFC I would bet at least half of the players reside in Coweta on the majority of those teams.. Even a good handful at MOBA live in Coweta as well... AFC and MOBA could merge their resources and create a viable option for Fayette kids but it seems as there is so much competition between the 2 clubs across the street from one another ... A Fresh club new to Coweta that believes in teaching kids how to play soccer and develop as players should come in and grow Coweta. SSA may still have a few boys teams that call Coweta home but I am pretty sure the girls teams have all disintegrated...Too many years of poor management should mean it's time for SSA to put all there efforts where their heart is and let Coweta find a club that can make it happen... Where is the SSA Coweta fields? And who runs them? (county? City? Private?) If they’re under utilized then maybe the owners would allow another group to come in and share. That’s pretty much what happened at Sav United as Tormenta/old Storm had a foot in the day at Jennifer Ross Complex and now with higher numbers are able to negotiate more access. Hmm….what about this UFA Coweta? 😂😂 No one is going to take over SSA Coweta. As much as I have a love/hate relationship with SSA, I don't think the leadership structure at AFC is any better and wouldn't really want them taking over Coweta either and I really don't want Coweta to be just another branch location in a mega club. If they were going to be that they might as well stick with the one that brought them to the dance over a new unknown club that has its own problems. No offense but all clubs have their problems and no the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence I have found. The fields are not under utilized. Central especially is run over with teams from 5:30pm-9pm every weeknight with plenty of games all weekend. Whitlock (when not closed due to field saturation) is also packed with games every weekend as well. In fact SSA utilizes the high school turf fields as well when field are closed for training and for games. So there isn't an under-utilization thing at all. It is just the fact that we have 3 clubs in a matter of 25-30 minutes from each other with not enough players to split between 3 clubs. MOBA opening up has weakened both AFC and SSA Coweta and honestly MOBA isn't as good as it could be either due to the other two clubs being so close to each other. There is not enough kids for 3 clubs to exist on the southside and have across the board good or even average teams. The agreement is with Coweta Cannons (which is still an entity and became part of SSA) and the county as far as field utilization. That isn't going anywhere and I really don't want to see a GA Storm type takeover like what happened in Douglas county either because honestly that Club isn't any good either. Some people in the thread have hit the nail on the head though. There were coaches that should not have been kept on for years when they were. There were also good coaches like Josh Villalobos that were run off by SSA even though he was a great director on the southside and probably the most loved coach of anyone that was down there. The issue was SSA would not make a financial commitment to grow the SSA Coweta location with money for coaches. They took our money for their grand facility they are building at Marathon, plucked our elite players and then that was it. I do indeed trust this new director has good intentions to fix the woes of SSA Coweta, but he will only be able to fix it if he has the financial support of SSA as a whole, and I'm afraid they made him director and he is about to find out that its harder to get money for enough good coaching staff then he thought as he tries to build back up the location. I will say based on what he has done so far he has been fairly successful recruiting and getting number back up in both the academy and select programs especially with their being 2 other clubs very close that people can choose. I am cautiously optimistic he will be successful but we are talking about needing at least 2-3 more years before you see the fruits of his labor. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 23, 2021 7:11:13 GMT -5
The County owns the fields. There are 2: Whitlock which is in a flood plain right off the interstate as the land was donated by the Yamaha factory in the late 80s/90s and Central Fields which are newer - within the past 10 years - and located on the East side of the county closer to Fayette.. There is a decent rec program for little kiddos but that is about it.. I have not a clue what the agreement/arrangement is with field space and Coweta/SSA but I don't think it would be very difficult to flip the program if it was handled correctly with the right intentions.... I believe the new director was brought in to turn the SSA Coweta location around. If he gets the financial support from SSA as a whole he will be successful at it. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 23, 2021 12:02:04 GMT -5
Where is the SSA Coweta fields? And who runs them? (county? City? Private?) If they’re under utilized then maybe the owners would allow another group to come in and share. That’s pretty much what happened at Sav United as Tormenta/old Storm had a foot in the day at Jennifer Ross Complex and now with higher numbers are able to negotiate more access. Hmm….what about this UFA Coweta? 😂😂 No one is going to take over SSA Coweta. As much as I have a love/hate relationship with SSA, I don't think the leadership structure at AFC is any better and wouldn't really want them taking over Coweta either and I really don't want Coweta to be just another branch location in a mega club. If they were going to be that they might as well stick with the one that brought them to the dance over a new unknown club that has its own problems. No offense but all clubs have their problems and no the grass isn't greener on the other side of the fence I have found. The fields are not under utilized. Central especially is run over with teams from 5:30pm-9pm every weeknight with plenty of games all weekend. Whitlock (when not closed due to field saturation) is also packed with games every weekend as well. In fact SSA utilizes the high school turf fields as well when field are closed for training and for games. So there isn't an under-utilization thing at all. It is just the fact that we have 3 clubs in a matter of 25-30 minutes from each other with not enough players to split between 3 clubs. MOBA opening up has weakened both AFC and SSA Coweta and honestly MOBA isn't as good as it could be either due to the other two clubs being so close to each other. There is not enough kids for 3 clubs to exist on the southside and have across the board good or even average teams. The agreement is with Coweta Cannons (which is still an entity and became part of SSA) and the county as far as field utilization. That isn't going anywhere and I really don't want to see a GA Storm type takeover like what happened in Douglas county either because honestly that Club isn't any good either. Some people in the thread have hit the nail on the head though. There were coaches that should not have been kept on for years when they were. There were also good coaches like Josh Villalobos that were run off by SSA even though he was a great director on the southside and probably the most loved coach of anyone that was down there. The issue was SSA would not make a financial commitment to grow the SSA Coweta location with money for coaches. They took our money for their grand facility they are building at Marathon, plucked our elite players and then that was it. I do indeed trust this new director has good intentions to fix the woes of SSA Coweta, but he will only be able to fix it if he has the financial support of SSA as a whole, and I'm afraid they made him director and he is about to find out that its harder to get money for enough good coaching staff then he thought as he tries to build back up the location. I will say based on what he has done so far he has been fairly successful recruiting and getting number back up in both the academy and select programs especially with their being 2 other clubs very close that people can choose. I am cautiously optimistic he will be successful but we are talking about needing at least 2-3 more years before you see the fruits of his labor. |
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Post by southsoccerfam on Mar 23, 2021 12:15:59 GMT -5
Agree about Josh V. He is a gem. It's a shame he was run off at SSA but hope he does great things for MOBA..
I am sure the new director, Jordan, will try his best to turn things around but if SSA has not done anything in the past 10 years to grow the franchise what makes you think they will do so now??
Agree that AFC is no better nor is GA Storm but with the current situation with SSA Coweta players/parents have no other good options unless they are willing to commute to the big city.. If a halfway decent program had been in place you would never have seen the mass exodus that happened over the past several years...
It's too late for my players and their contemporaries.
Just wish there was a decent enough program so that local players could stay local... maybe the tides will change with the little kids coming into Academy will stick...
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