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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 30, 2021 14:52:00 GMT -5
So my first question was about "legal" throw ins.
Is this a legal free kick now? I though fifa changed the rules not allowing the attacking player to line up in the wall? i'm not sure about the running in front of the wall though?
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on Mar 30, 2021 15:04:16 GMT -5
I’m pretty sure other attacking players have to be at least 1 yard away from a wall of 3 players or more until the ball is kicked (not until the player taking the free kick starts moving toward the ball). So draw your own conclusions on this clip!
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 30, 2021 15:12:15 GMT -5
From FIFA laws of the game 13:
Where three or more defending team players form a ‘wall’, all attacking team players must remain at least 1 m (1 yd) from the ‘wall’ until the ball is in play.
If, when a free kick is taken, an attacking team player is less than 1 m (1 yd) from a ‘wall’ formed by three or more defending team players, an indirect free kick is awarded.
My analysis:
Unless the player that runs in front stayed 1 yard in front of the wall, it should have been a foul. It is difficult to determine from the video how close the runner is to the wall but he looks closer than a yard. When you watch the referee, he does not appear to be looking as the player makes the run.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Mar 30, 2021 15:27:48 GMT -5
looks like a foul to me...
cheaters!
Also -- notice the end of the clip, someone is getting a yellow card -- is it for the celebration or the opposing coach suggesting the infraction?
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Post by mightydawg on Mar 30, 2021 15:32:30 GMT -5
looks like a foul to me... cheaters! Also -- notice the end of the clip, someone is getting a yellow card -- is it for the celebration or the opposing coach suggesting the infraction? The yellow is definitely to someone on the sideline. |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Mar 30, 2021 17:32:08 GMT -5
yes I concur with the rest of the people. I honestly think the people lined up were closer than a yard from the wall as well. If I were centering that game I would have insured the attacking players were at least 1 yard away from the wall and tell them where they can stand. If they moved toward the wall before the kick infringing on that space I would have called a foul.
The video is hard to tell either way but it looks as if the referee is not enforcing the new rules or he doesn't remember or know the new rules. I have seen plenty of referees I have even worked with that still don't do things like the new drop ball rule right, or if the ball hits the referee, etc...) So this doesn't surprise me honestly.
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Post by Respect on Mar 30, 2021 17:48:19 GMT -5
yes I concur with the rest of the people. I honestly think the people lined up were closer than a yard from the wall as well. If I were centering that game I would have insured the attacking players were at least 1 yard away from the wall and tell them where they can stand. If they moved toward the wall before the wall infringing on that space I would have called a foul. The video is hard to tell either way but it looks as if the referee is not enforcing the new rules or he doesn't remember or know the new rules. I have seen plenty of referees I have even worked with that still don't do things like the new drop ball rule right, or if the ball hits the referee, etc...) So this doesn't surprise me honestly. Assuming ref made them stand at least one yard from wall, (and based on the player’s shadows) it is a legal play. The attacking players run parallel to the wall or away from it. Even if the players were less than 36 inches they did not obstruct anyone. The spirit of the law should side on a valid play. In my opinion, this is a valid goal. |
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Post by datrain on Mar 30, 2021 18:21:00 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Game of Throw Ins....36 inches is not a lot
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Post by rifle on Mar 30, 2021 20:25:47 GMT -5
So my first question was about "legal" throw ins. Is this a legal free kick now? I though fifa changed the rules not allowing the attacking player to line up in the wall? i'm not sure about the running in front of the wall though? Looks good to me. Nice shot. Ref certainly had a good angle on the distance. And MLS academy refs likely are not beginners. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Mar 31, 2021 5:45:50 GMT -5
Looks like they are at least a yard away to me. The way they lined up looks like it and so does their running.
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Post by soccerloafer on Mar 31, 2021 8:04:23 GMT -5
Goes back to the intent of the rule, which was to prevent physical contact - pushing, holding, etc - between opposing teams in a wall. The 1 yard limit was likely an arbitrary measure to enforce some separation. Since there was separation and no contact, I'd lean on this play meeting the spirit / intent of the rule if not the exact measurement.
In this case, you have two officials - CR and AR - watching about half-dozen areas between the two of them. AR is positioned for the offside line and goal judge, CR's eyes are primarily on the center of the goal mouth (where all the other players are), peripherally watching the wall, while listening for the ball strike. To think they can enforce an arbitrary 36 inch spacing while doing everything else is not realistic.
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