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Post by ball2futbol on Apr 30, 2021 16:12:57 GMT -5
When Atlanta United would recruit in boys to play for the Academy, they noticed early on that with some of these talented players, they would have to spend an inordinate amount of time working on fundamentals and cleaning up bad habits. So in an effort to "Grow the game from the ground up" the initiated the United Juniors program. To quote AU: "...The program is designed to identify youth players and enhance development earlier than the U-12 level, and give young talent the opportunity to train under the Atlanta United Academy staff at the Children’s Healthcare of Atlanta Training Ground. Once selected, players will remain an active player with their own youth club while receiving additional development from Atlanta United’s Academy staff..." The reality is this is also a means for DOCs and certain coaches with a good track record to push their really good kids to AU. Most DOCs are allowed to recommend players. Being in that program, does not guarantee acceptance into the actual AU Academy at U12, but it sure doesn't hurt. At first I thought the RDS was a money grab, however, I have come to find, you do get top notch training sessions(90 mins) and a good player evaluation at the end of the sessions. I've heard of boys getting pulled into the Academy from RDS. RDS sessions (8) tend to be around $300+/- There are tryouts for RDS, however, it depends on the caliber of player(s) that shows up to your specific location. Good luck... Don’t know much about the AU pathway but can vouch for the RDS training for boys and girls! There is a weeding out process but worth the investment once you’ve made the cut. |
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Apr 30, 2021 23:52:14 GMT -5
Post by atlsoccerfan on Apr 30, 2021 23:52:14 GMT -5
Given that all of the Tryouts overlap, wanted to get some advice on your experience been with the U14+ ID camps. Will coaches provide meaningful feedback on your child’s level and if you’re a good fit for the team/level (ECNL, ECNL-R) or will be generic to encourage Tryout attendance? Is it better to have your child solicit feedback or passively see if the coach pulls them aside? If you can’t make an ID camp, does it even make sense to tryout “cold” at a club?
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Post by 04gparent on May 1, 2021 0:01:33 GMT -5
Given that all of the Tryouts overlap, wanted to get some advice on your experience been with the U14+ ID camps. Will coaches provide meaningful feedback on your child’s level and if you’re a good fit for the team/level (ECNL, ECNL-R) or will be generic to encourage Tryout attendance? Is it better to have your child solicit feedback or passively see if the coach pulls them aside? If you can’t make an ID camp, does it even make sense to tryout “cold” at a club? There is not a one size fits all answer. If you’re paying money to attend an ID camp ask for feedback. Can they guarantee a spot on the team from the camp? I doubt it. Coaches will always take the best players. If better players show up at tryouts vs ID camps they will take better player. my advice is once the coach is released for the team try to contact them to begin conversations before you even show up to ID camp or tryout. Especially if your player has played against the coach. |
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May 1, 2021 12:21:57 GMT -5
Post by soccerfamilia on May 1, 2021 12:21:57 GMT -5
So since tryouts are all same day, best tips to try out at 2-3 academies?
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Post by greenmonkey on May 2, 2021 21:54:43 GMT -5
Given that all of the Tryouts overlap, wanted to get some advice on your experience been with the U14+ ID camps. Will coaches provide meaningful feedback on your child’s level and if you’re a good fit for the team/level (ECNL, ECNL-R) or will be generic to encourage Tryout attendance? Is it better to have your child solicit feedback or passively see if the coach pulls them aside? If you can’t make an ID camp, does it even make sense to tryout “cold” at a club? AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Most coaches absolutely gave feedback when asked. |
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May 2, 2021 22:16:02 GMT -5
Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 2, 2021 22:16:02 GMT -5
So since tryouts are all same day, best tips to try out at 2-3 academies? May be too late now but you had to start widdling down the teams/clubs you're interested in by going to the ID Camps. From there you get more of an honest gauge of where your kid fits in best. It also has the added benefit of allowing the coaches to see you, assess your interest and sometimes make direct offers or give you feedback on where they think your kid may or may not fit it. At tryouts, I would limit yourself to two clubs. Go to your first choice on day one and based off of that experience(remember, get feedback) go to your second choice on day two. If neither work out, you still have your current club to go to on day three. Good-luck... |
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May 2, 2021 23:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleDad on May 2, 2021 23:36:10 GMT -5
So since tryouts are all same day, best tips to try out at 2-3 academies? May be too late now but you had to start widdling down the teams/clubs you're interested in by going to the ID Camps. From there you get more of an honest gauge of where your kid fits in best. It also has the added benefit of allowing the coaches to see you, assess your interest and sometimes make direct offers or give you feedback on where they think your kid may or may not fit it. At tryouts, I would limit yourself to two clubs. Go to your first choice on day one and based off of that experience(remember, get feedback) go to your second choice on day two. If neither work out, you still have your current club to go to on day three. Good-luck... I wish this was all a simple, exact science but I've seen multiple crazy things happen. This will be my daughter's first time trying out at another club. I told her to get ready for the grind that week of going to 2 tryouts. The question is how to keep your child's energy level up during an intense workout/tryout week. |
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May 3, 2021 5:57:14 GMT -5
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Post by roki12 on May 3, 2021 5:57:14 GMT -5
Given that all of the Tryouts overlap, wanted to get some advice on your experience been with the U14+ ID camps. Will coaches provide meaningful feedback on your child’s level and if you’re a good fit for the team/level (ECNL, ECNL-R) or will be generic to encourage Tryout attendance? Is it better to have your child solicit feedback or passively see if the coach pulls them aside? If you can’t make an ID camp, does it even make sense to tryout “cold” at a club? AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Most coaches absolutely gave feedback when asked. Clubs put a lot of pressure of their players to attend the ID camps. I heard Platinum was told they didn’t have to attend, and then were told they did have to attend. It was packed because there were three full teams (their own) per age group. There were very few outside club players for 08/07. A lot of the other teams had games or had to go to their own ID clinics so there’s that. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 3, 2021 6:18:34 GMT -5
May be too late now but you had to start widdling down the teams/clubs you're interested in by going to the ID Camps. From there you get more of an honest gauge of where your kid fits in best. It also has the added benefit of allowing the coaches to see you, assess your interest and sometimes make direct offers or give you feedback on where they think your kid may or may not fit it. At tryouts, I would limit yourself to two clubs. Go to your first choice on day one and based off of that experience(remember, get feedback) go to your second choice on day two. If neither work out, you still have your current club to go to on day three. Good-luck... I wish this was all a simple, exact science but I've seen multiple crazy things happen. This will be my daughter's first time trying out at another club. I told her to get ready for the grind that week of going to 2 tryouts. The question is how to keep your child's energy level up during an intense workout/tryout week. Hydration, hydration, hydration. Cooling towels. Ice between tryouts. Fruit and protein. Possibly electrolyte replacement like powered chews or power gel or stuff like that. Lots of sleep. We have never done tryouts at two clubs in the same day (well except one day last year during covid). I know people who have though and it is hard! |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 3, 2021 6:25:42 GMT -5
I wish this was all a simple, exact science but I've seen multiple crazy things happen. This will be my daughter's first time trying out at another club. I told her to get ready for the grind that week of going to 2 tryouts. The question is how to keep your child's energy level up during an intense workout/tryout week. Hydration, hydration, hydration. Cooling towels. Ice between tryouts. Fruit and protein. Possibly electrolyte replacement like powered chews or power gel or stuff like that. Lots of sleep. We have never done tryouts at two clubs in the same day (well except one day last year during covid). I know people who have though and it is hard! Great advice, I would add, get good sleep leading up to and during the tryout week. Shut down phone and SM early to allow brain to rest also. Oh did I mention Hydrate... |
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Post by ball2futbol on May 3, 2021 8:44:56 GMT -5
The new Gatorade Bolt 24 is also a good option for recovery/hydration. An acquired taste for some but seems to do the trick also contains collagen, which seems to be the new protein buzz word these days.
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 3, 2021 8:56:25 GMT -5
After day 1, a coach knows if thty are offering and will. They arent letting talent go to another club. This is especially true atvthe older ages where they likely know the players well.
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May 3, 2021 9:19:20 GMT -5
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 3, 2021 9:19:20 GMT -5
After day 1, a coach knows if thty are offering and will. They arent letting talent go to another club. This is especially true atvthe older ages where they likely know the players well. You’re very experienced a situation or know any one that was made an offer accepted the offer then later declined it because they were given an offer at another club? I would imagine if someone does that the second club is going to be their permanent home for as long as they play soccer as no other club would ever want to deal with them. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 3, 2021 9:43:35 GMT -5
After day 1, a coach knows if thty are offering and will. They arent letting talent go to another club. This is especially true atvthe older ages where they likely know the players well. You’re very experienced a situation or know any one that was made an offer accepted the offer then later declined it because they were given an offer at another club? I would imagine if someone does that the second club is going to be their permanent home for as long as they play soccer as no other club would ever want to deal with them. I know of people who did that. You would be surprised what clubs will do to get a great player. They will take back people that do that if they are good enough. |
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May 3, 2021 12:00:49 GMT -5
Post by Whistledown on May 3, 2021 12:00:49 GMT -5
You’re very experienced a situation or know any one that was made an offer accepted the offer then later declined it because they were given an offer at another club? I would imagine if someone does that the second club is going to be their permanent home for as long as they play soccer as no other club would ever want to deal with them. I know of people who did that. You would be surprised what clubs will do to get a great player. They will take back people that do that if they are good enough. This is completely true. I have seen people burn a bridge to ashes and same club inquires the next year about the player. |
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May 3, 2021 12:14:50 GMT -5
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 3, 2021 12:14:50 GMT -5
I know of people who did that. You would be surprised what clubs will do to get a great player. They will take back people that do that if they are good enough. This is completely true. I have seen people burn a bridge to ashes and same club inquires the next year about the player. So with that said good players could jump ship every year to get the coaching experience and playing with different people experience. Only issue I could see is playing time. Even if you are on a bottom tier team in your respective league a lot can be said for playing time vs chasing a higher ranked team at the expense of less playing time. |
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May 3, 2021 18:29:07 GMT -5
Post by soccernotfootball on May 3, 2021 18:29:07 GMT -5
AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Most coaches absolutely gave feedback when asked. Clubs put a lot of pressure of their players to attend the ID camps. I heard Platinum was told they didn’t have to attend, and then were told they did have to attend. It was packed because there were three full teams (their own) per age group. There were very few outside club players for 08/07. A lot of the other teams had games or had to go to their own ID clinics so there’s that. We saw a whole team from a smaller club, many Red Star players, among others... I would say there were many from outside club players. |
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May 3, 2021 18:32:18 GMT -5
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Post by roki12 on May 3, 2021 18:32:18 GMT -5
Clubs put a lot of pressure of their players to attend the ID camps. I heard Platinum was told they didn’t have to attend, and then were told they did have to attend. It was packed because there were three full teams (their own) per age group. There were very few outside club players for 08/07. A lot of the other teams had games or had to go to their own ID clinics so there’s that. We saw a whole team from a smaller club, many Red Star players, among others... I would say there were many from outside club players. 08 or 07? I thought they were together but actually they were different times. |
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May 3, 2021 21:16:19 GMT -5
Post by soccerfamilia on May 3, 2021 21:16:19 GMT -5
ID camps are for what age? ITs for academies?
Had no idea about ID camp.
Any links you can share?
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May 10, 2021 10:10:57 GMT -5
Post by NotherSoccerParent on May 10, 2021 10:10:57 GMT -5
ID camps are for what age? ITs for academies? Had no idea about ID camp. Any links you can share? NASA has an ID camp next Wed for ECNL only. Think of it a movie trailer, for the incoming coach to look at the current year's players and pit them against incoming players, both from lower teams as well as outside clubs. |
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