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Post by soccermamma17 on May 1, 2021 23:06:44 GMT -5
I’m particularly interested in the ‘07 and ‘08 girls.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 1, 2021 23:33:08 GMT -5
I’m particularly interested in the ‘07 and ‘08 girls. Yes I was there.
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 2, 2021 7:36:52 GMT -5
What would you like to know about it? None of the AFU ECNL girls attended from those age groups because they had games yesterday and have another today. Also, for the '07 age group I believe only the GK from the SCCL team attended because they had a 3PM game in Henry County yesterday.
So, outside 1 girl, everyone in attendance for the '07 group was from outside the club...about 16 players I believe.
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Post by soccermom on May 2, 2021 8:04:59 GMT -5
What would you like to know about it? None of the AFU ECNL girls attended from those age groups because they had games yesterday and have another today. Also, for the '07 age group I believe only the GK from the SCCL team attended because they had a 3PM game in Henry County yesterday. So, outside 1 girl, everyone in attendance for the '07 group was from outside the club...about 16 players I believe. Thats a lot of girls, especially at this age... where were they coming from??
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 2, 2021 8:41:31 GMT -5
What would you like to know about it? None of the AFU ECNL girls attended from those age groups because they had games yesterday and have another today. Also, for the '07 age group I believe only the GK from the SCCL team attended because they had a 3PM game in Henry County yesterday. So, outside 1 girl, everyone in attendance for the '07 group was from outside the club...about 16 players I believe. Thats a lot of girls, especially at this age... where were they coming from?? Not a lot really. I would have expected more. They are rising U14 and U15 and there is some real movement at that age. Besides some kids just go to get in a training session or to go with a friend that wants to move.
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 2, 2021 8:44:26 GMT -5
What would you like to know about it? None of the AFU ECNL girls attended from those age groups because they had games yesterday and have another today. Also, for the '07 age group I believe only the GK from the SCCL team attended because they had a 3PM game in Henry County yesterday. So, outside 1 girl, everyone in attendance for the '07 group was from outside the club...about 16 players I believe. Thats a lot of girls, especially at this age... where were they coming from?? It was only easy to tell the few from UFA because they wore UFA gear. I saw 1 GSA shirt and maybe 1 or 2 Concorde shirts. Otherwise I have no idea where they came from because they didn't wear club specific gear.
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Post by rifle on May 2, 2021 8:52:04 GMT -5
I don’t understand the psychology of showing up at a new club ID session in your old club’s gear. On the other hand, I do understand showing up at ODP tryouts in your TopHat colors. Maybe it’s the same...
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 2, 2021 9:14:01 GMT -5
I don’t understand the psychology of showing up at a new club ID session in your old club’s gear. On the other hand, I do understand showing up at ODP tryouts in your TopHat colors. Maybe it’s the same... My kid was one of them. We came straight from a game. Most kids wore some of their current gear. In my experience when a kid has no club gear at a tryout it gives the appearance that they’re coming from rec.
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Post by rifle on May 2, 2021 9:18:26 GMT -5
I don’t understand the psychology of showing up at a new club ID session in your old club’s gear. On the other hand, I do understand showing up at ODP tryouts in your TopHat colors. Maybe it’s the same... My kid was one of them. We came straight from a game. Most kids wore some of their current gear. In my experience when a kid has no club gear at a tryout it gives the appearance that they’re coming from rec. That does make some sense. Thx ...Might be time to browse eBay for some San Diego Surf tournament tees. Give the evaluators something to remember if your PLAY doesn’t do enough.
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Post by hawkfan84 on May 2, 2021 12:06:03 GMT -5
If a player needs to wear club attire to get attention, their play obviously isnt up to the level needed. My next comment would be that a player could wear (insert big club name here) gear but play on the lowest team at the club. Again at a tryout or showcase, coaches watch the player not the jersey they wear.
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Post by mightydawg on May 2, 2021 14:16:57 GMT -5
If a player needs to wear club attire to get attention, their play obviously isnt up to the level needed. My next comment would be that a player could wear (insert big club name here) gear but play on the lowest team at the club. Again at a tryout or showcase, coaches watch the player not the jersey they wear. If only that were true. Clubs like shiny new objects and stealing players from a rival. At most clubs, you are better off wearing another club’s gear than the club hosting the ID camp or tryout.
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 2, 2021 14:54:28 GMT -5
I’m particularly interested in the ‘07 and ‘08 girls. You could have gone if you wanted to know so bad.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 2, 2021 21:47:08 GMT -5
AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps.
The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field.
The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online)
The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 3, 2021 6:14:18 GMT -5
AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Interesting detailed information. In some ways I am not surprised about UFA's camp or Concorde's. UFA coaches pretty much always know who they are taking or not before the tryouts. They have recruited outside players. They know who they are dropping from current teams (though many times the players don't know that until too late). AW and IM work that way. I don't know if CH is the same. Two years ago when AW decided to split his 05/06 group up into their own age groups (mostly) he should have had 6-7 spots open but when the girls arrived at the ID camp he told them there were 1 maybe 2 spots available. The top teams always do this. Even the second teams there are mostly locked in. I do think it is disrespectful to the players there to wander off though. Concorde never seems that organized to me. I have been amazed at games that we have had with them at academy ages where the whole opposing team is waiting outside the locked gates before anyone from Concorde gets there. Or games that are canceled last minute for a variety of reasons. Back in the Athena days it was also just as bad. But they too always have had conversations with people beforehand so unless you talked to them they probably do not know about you.
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Post by nole95 on May 3, 2021 6:35:56 GMT -5
I can confirm the previous info given about the UFA ID camp. My daughter went yesterday, and said it was a complete waste of time. Seemed disorganized and coaches did not pay attention or have an interest in engaging with the players that were there to be seen. No effort was made to allow players to play in the position they normally play in.
If you are going to have an ID camp, at least give it the appearance that everyone is being looked at. Even if you have already decided on things. Otherwise, all you are doing is wasting everyone's time. At a basic level, appear to be running an organized event.
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 3, 2021 7:11:23 GMT -5
AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Maybe that was the intention at the GSA camp, but for the '07G age group it wasn't reality. Yes the ECNL team wore red, as did one of the SCCL-P teams. However, the SCCL-C team wore black, as did the other SCCL-P team. All of the non-club players wore black, with the exception of 1 that wore light blue. If the intention was to have the SCCL-C team wear red, it was never communicated, which should not be a surprise since communication at the club absolutely sucks. There was no official check-in, so players did not wear numbers. My daughter said none of the coaches (there were 5 out there) approached her to ask who she was, and that seemed to be status quo from others she spoke with. Essentially for the '07 girls, all 4 of their teams were there, along with about 6 or 7 out of club players...mostly from Athens. The girls mainly played 7v7 games as they were all on a single 11v11 field. There were some times the coaches watched, but for the most part they didn't seem very engaged. At the end the ECNL coach spoke to the players. One of the comments he made was that this was not a tryout or evaluation session, but rather a showcase to show how far GSA has come (per my 14 year old). She & her teammates had no idea what that even meant.
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 3, 2021 8:38:17 GMT -5
AFU was very well run. Players had ID numbers and were divided into positions (defense, midfielder, offense) as opposed to the other three clubs that divided players by "current team" and "everyone else". Very smart to be the FIRST ID Camp AND the LAST ID Camp. Coaches were definitely the most engaged of all the camps. The UFA coaches didn't even stay on the field and watch the entire time. All 90 minutes was the current ECNL vs ENRL 11v11 on one field and everyone else on the other field 11v11 and 11 kids on the bench. All three coaches stayed on the ENCL/RL field and two of them wandered off after about 30 minutes to watch a different age group. When the ECNL/RL field took a water break they let the 11 players switch off with some of the everyone else players on that field. The Concorde fields were PACKED and no numbers or anyway at all to keep track other than the sign up roster which of course had your current club and league listed. (I always wondered can you just lie when you fill that out online) The GSA camp asked all current ECNL/RL players to wear RED and all other players to wear black. At least it made it obvious who was being considered when they pulled TWO black shirts of the field and put them on the RED field. Maybe that was the intention at the GSA camp, but for the '07G age group it wasn't reality. Yes the ECNL team wore red, as did one of the SCCL-P teams. However, the SCCL-C team wore black, as did the other SCCL-P team. All of the non-club players wore black, with the exception of 1 that wore light blue. If the intention was to have the SCCL-C team wear red, it was never communicated, which should not be a surprise since communication at the club absolutely sucks. There was no official check-in, so players did not wear numbers. My daughter said none of the coaches (there were 5 out there) approached her to ask who she was, and that seemed to be status quo from others she spoke with. Essentially for the '07 girls, all 4 of their teams were there, along with about 6 or 7 out of club players...mostly from Athens. The girls mainly played 7v7 games as they were all on a single 11v11 field. There were some times the coaches watched, but for the most part they didn't seem very engaged. At the end the ECNL coach spoke to the players. One of the comments he made was that this was not a tryout or evaluation session, but rather a showcase to show how far GSA has come (per my 14 year old). She & her teammates had no idea what that even meant. If the majority of the players were from Athens my guess is they were accustomed to GSA when it was in Dacula. Just a WAG.
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Post by sailingaway on May 3, 2021 21:01:55 GMT -5
I can confirm the previous info given about the UFA ID camp. My daughter went yesterday, and said it was a complete waste of time. Seemed disorganized and coaches did not pay attention or have an interest in engaging with the players that were there to be seen. No effort was made to allow players to play in the position they normally play in. If you are going to have an ID camp, at least give it the appearance that everyone is being looked at. Even if you have already decided on things. Otherwise, all you are doing is wasting everyone's time. At a basic level, appear to be running an organized event. Agree, and also confirming. UFA split the girls right after warmups and didn't bother to watch the 2nd group at all. Confirmed some coaches left the field entirely, no numbers given to girls so no identifying at all. Even current UFA players commented it was ridiculous. All they did was scrimmage their own teammates. Good thing they didn't charge or they would have some really pissed off parents. Awfully quiet over at NTH ...
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