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Post by kickinondaweekend on May 10, 2021 6:30:14 GMT -5
Did anyone else think the AFU completely missed the mark with their tournament this year?
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Post by futbolhero on May 10, 2021 8:13:11 GMT -5
Did anyone else think the AFU completely missed the mark with their tournament this year? What was the mark? Were there things you were hoping for that you did not get? Comments like this are difficult to have a conversation around because they lack detail. |
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Post by bogan on May 10, 2021 8:35:58 GMT -5
Did anyone else think the AFU completely missed the mark with their tournament this year? What was the mark? Were there things you were hoping for that you did not get? Comments like this are difficult to have a conversation around because they lack detail. Are we talking about the “Peach Classic?” |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2021 8:41:58 GMT -5
We had a decent experience at the academy one. There were issues with refs but that is every tournament due to the shortage.
One field we played on was horrible but the top fields at GPP were nice.
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Post by atlfutboldad on May 10, 2021 9:24:14 GMT -5
The ref shortage is going to kill youth tournaments going forward. AFU was very understaffed with the Jr SCCL Cup and State Cup happening this past weekend also.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 10, 2021 10:18:55 GMT -5
Did anyone else think the AFU completely missed the mark with their tournament this year? I think in the future, you will be better suited to give examples of what it is you're thinking so others can chime in as to the validity or give their own perspective on a part or the whole of your conversation starter. So here is another chance to relay your thoughts. In your opinion what was the mark and in what way did they miss it? |
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Post by mightydawg on May 10, 2021 10:28:14 GMT -5
The main problem I saw lack of referees. In most games, there was at least one parent, if not two, that were having to be assistant referees. Also, in some cases, the center referee was younger or the same age as the players.
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 10, 2021 10:31:41 GMT -5
The main problem I saw lack of referees. In most games, there was at least one parent, if not two, that were having to be assistant referees. Also, in some cases, the center referee was younger or the same age as the players. Yes, the referee shortage has been some kind of wicked this season. I've heard from parents of referees that have been offered all kinds of incentives to ref games and tournaments because of the shortage. I'm thinking of going back and getting my re-certification to make me some wine & cheese $$$ |
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Post by Shesakeeper on May 10, 2021 10:38:18 GMT -5
Agreed, the only issue we had was the shortage of refs, we had 2 for our first game and only 1 for the second on Saturday. Sunday must have been slightly better, we had 3. Other than that, we were happy with everything.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2021 10:42:50 GMT -5
The main problem I saw lack of referees. In most games, there was at least one parent, if not two, that were having to be assistant referees. Also, in some cases, the center referee was younger or the same age as the players. Yes, the referee shortage has been some kind of wicked this season. I've heard from parents of referees that have been offered all kinds of incentives to ref games and tournaments because of the shortage. I'm thinking of going back and getting my re-certification to make me some wine & cheese $$$ My older daughter who did not recertify yet due to school, track, soccer commitments and generally feeling like she was do tired with all of that activity she just did not want to commit more time to anything else. It had been a trying year for a lot of teens. Some may be just tired to do anything else. But we still get the emails and they are offering a lot of extra money and other things. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 10, 2021 12:32:39 GMT -5
1. The lack of referees were an issue for almost every age division and every game.
2. They had some age groups playing 11v11 games on dramatically small fields! Specifically fields 17 and 18 at George Pierce park, those were literally 9v9 fields being used for top division 11v11 games in the u14 bracket.
3. George Pierce park fields in bad shape compared to our experience at Scot Hudgens
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2021 12:43:39 GMT -5
1. The lack of referees were an issue for almost every age division and every game. 2. They had some age groups playing 11v11 games on dramatically small fields! Specifically fields 17 and 18 at George Pierce park, those were literally 9v9 fields being used for top division 11v11 games in the u14 bracket. 3. George Pierce park fields in bad shape compared to our experience at Scot Hudgens Weird. Fields 20 and 21 were in great shape the previous weekend Fields are small for 11v11 |
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Post by mightydawg on May 10, 2021 13:40:37 GMT -5
1. The lack of referees were an issue for almost every age division and every game. 2. They had some age groups playing 11v11 games on dramatically small fields! Specifically fields 17 and 18 at George Pierce park, those were literally 9v9 fields being used for top division 11v11 games in the u14 bracket. 3. George Pierce park fields in bad shape compared to our experience at Scot Hudgens Weird. Fields 20 and 21 were in great shape the previous weekend Fields are small for 11v11 According to measurements that I took on google satellite, fields 17 and 18 are 90 yards long and 65 yards wide. It looks like they are actually playing across on a full size soccer field. |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2021 14:33:19 GMT -5
Weird. Fields 20 and 21 were in great shape the previous weekend Fields are small for 11v11 According to measurements that I took on google satellite, fields 17 and 18 are 90 yards long and 65 yards wide. It looks like they are actually playing across on a full size soccer field. I believe it. We had one game at Disney once that the field was less than 60 yards wide. The outside of 18 yard box was about 7 or 8 yards from the corner flag. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 10, 2021 14:43:00 GMT -5
Oracle, exactly!
The “mini fields” of field 17 and 18 reminded our team of the satellite Disney locations when you didn’t play at the WWOS sport complex.
The biggest issue to us was field 20 and 21 were regulation 11v11 fields but you then force other 11v11 teams to play on a much smaller field. To make it worse, the tournament put U15 second division on the full sized field but the top division of U14 gets the mini field?
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 10, 2021 15:15:52 GMT -5
Oracle, exactly! The “mini fields” of field 17 and 18 reminded our team of the satellite Disney locations when you didn’t play at the WWOS sport complex. The biggest issue to us was field 20 and 21 were regulation 11v11 fields but you then force other 11v11 teams to play on a much smaller field. To make it worse, the tournament put U15 second division on the full sized field but the top division of U14 gets the mini field? The one Disney field we had that was the epic fail was at WWOS but they converted a baseball outfield. Blah Funny about 20 and 21 being full fields because the prior weekend my little one played 9v9 on field 20 |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 10, 2021 17:58:21 GMT -5
All of our 11v11 games only had 1 or 2 actual refs.
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Post by rifle on May 10, 2021 18:32:46 GMT -5
All of our 11v11 games only had 1 or 2 actual refs. players and parents think it’s bad... It’d be terrible to have to be that ref. |
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Post by SoccerMom on May 10, 2021 18:34:17 GMT -5
All of our 11v11 games only had 1 or 2 actual refs. players and parents think it’s bad... It’d be terrible to have to be that ref. Well some of the refs were pretty bad too |
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Post by soulsurvivin on May 10, 2021 19:05:50 GMT -5
The location in Duluth near Norte Dame school was very nice, professionally run and organized. Only complaint would be the 8am Sunday start time. However that’s typical given the number of brackets at the various age groups.
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Post by Keeper on May 11, 2021 10:45:31 GMT -5
To make it worse, the tournament put U15 second division on the full sized field but the top division of U14 gets the mini field? Why wouldn’t the older teams get the larger field? Most U14 teams can’t even cover a true full sized field. All a bigger field means is more space to boom that ball into or more space for you to recover that pass since your first touch is a concrete brick. |
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Post by lsagoalie on May 11, 2021 14:15:18 GMT -5
I disagree.
They are both age groups that play 11v11 so give it to the higher caliber group of players.
First of all it’s ridiculous to not have correct size fields for all so this should not even be a debate
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Post by disturbed on May 11, 2021 14:46:55 GMT -5
To make it worse, the tournament put U15 second division on the full sized field but the top division of U14 gets the mini field? Why wouldn’t the older teams get the larger field? Most U14 teams can’t even cover a true full sized field. All a bigger field means is more space to boom that ball into or more space for you to recover that pass since your first touch is a concrete brick. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this comment is not true but it is very funny! |
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Post by Keeper on May 11, 2021 15:10:49 GMT -5
I disagree. They are both age groups that play 11v11 so give it to the higher caliber group of players. First of all it’s ridiculous to not have correct size fields for all so this should not even be a debate Please define “higher caliber” when one group has an SCCL C2C, GPL, Athena A and Premier 2 team while the other has an SCCL C2C, Premier 1, and a SC Challenge League team. I’m surprised the U14s weren’t combined into one division as Rapids won Athena A and Norcross is SCCL C2C and both in the bottom bracket. Fields we’re big enough, I’ve seen much smaller and far worse condition. |
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Post by atlantasoccerdad2020 on May 11, 2021 18:10:52 GMT -5
I disagree. They are both age groups that play 11v11 so give it to the higher caliber group of players. First of all it’s ridiculous to not have correct size fields for all so this should not even be a debate I am pretty certain all the fields were within specs. Have you ever watched an MLS game played in New York versus any other location? There are minimum and maximum specs and as long as the field is within those parameters you’re good to go. |
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Post by bogan on May 11, 2021 18:29:53 GMT -5
I disagree. They are both age groups that play 11v11 so give it to the higher caliber group of players. First of all it’s ridiculous to not have correct size fields for all so this should not even be a debate I am pretty certain all the fields were within specs. Have you ever watched an MLS game played in New York versus any other location? There are minimum and maximum specs and as long as the field is within those parameters you’re good to go. NYCFC won’t allow any one to measure the pitch -it’s not regulation according to folks who know. But, like rifle said “MLS gonna MLS.” But you are correct-the rules allow for use of an American football field for matches-they aren’t 90 meters wide. Laws of the game #1 “ In the standard 11-a-side match match, the pitch must be 90 to 120 metres in length and 45 to 90 metres wide, with the touchlines being longer than the goal lines.” |
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