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Post by atldad1 on May 11, 2021 7:37:45 GMT -5
Does anyone else see evaluations going on already? Players training with other teams?
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 11, 2021 7:44:01 GMT -5
yes
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Post by bogan on May 11, 2021 7:44:51 GMT -5
Yep
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 11, 2021 8:09:43 GMT -5
Yes. Some of our team practices are now run by next year's coach and there are guest players at the session. The coach has even stated this is not training, is part of the tryout process.
We also know quite a few players at other clubs that have already been offered spots for next year.
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Post by coffee on May 11, 2021 8:23:07 GMT -5
Does anyone else see evaluations going on already? Players training with other teams? I’ve been seeing this for probably two weeks now. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 11, 2021 8:27:17 GMT -5
Absolutely - most truly competitive top teams will be set before day 1 of tryouts with maybe 1-2 spots available for a new kid never seen prior.
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Post by bogan on May 11, 2021 8:28:25 GMT -5
Absolutely - most truly competitive top teams will be set before day 1 of tryouts with maybe 1-2 spots available for a new kid never seen prior. Yep-even though they will tell you otherwise. |
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Post by Brinker on May 11, 2021 8:58:01 GMT -5
Absolutely - most truly competitive top teams will be set before day 1 of tryouts with maybe 1-2 spots available for a new kid never seen prior. Agreed. It is probably hard to walk into tryouts from outside the club and make a top ECNL or MLSNext program. |
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Post by blu on May 11, 2021 11:04:41 GMT -5
Yes for several weeks already.
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Post by notcrazysoccerdad on May 11, 2021 11:28:04 GMT -5
Yes. Started in April.
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Post by justwatching on May 11, 2021 14:53:55 GMT -5
Yes. If you are wanting to be on a club's top team at a big club playing (GAL/ECNL or MLS Next/ECNL) you should have already made yourself known and seen or setup a time to be seen by the coach. Which would likely be at a team training. Tryouts are too late.
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Post by 04gparent on May 11, 2021 15:03:47 GMT -5
Yes. If you are wanting to be on a club's top team at a big club playing (GAL/ECNL or MLS Next/ECNL) you should have already made yourself known and seen or setup a time to be seen by the coach. Which would likely be at a team training. Tryouts are too late. From a girls perspective, every club is different and this is not definitive. If a quality player shows up at tryouts coaches will make an offer. Especially this year when so many clubs didnt have tryouts last year due to Covid. How can you reach out to certain clubs who havent announced a head coach for the age group/team? So my answer would be it depends on the quality of player compared to the players on the team. It may not be popular but many coaches will take the new player over an existing player if there is clear seperation in playing ability. |
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Post by rudy on May 11, 2021 16:38:21 GMT -5
Top players are known. Coaches will reach out to the parents to invite them out. Players also help recruit. They know who the top players are and are well connected through social media. Agree that top teams are picked except for maybe a spot or two.
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Post by snow on May 11, 2021 19:55:57 GMT -5
My player has been consistently practicing and scrimmaging (by invite) with a top team at new (to us) club... which sounds positive, but we were still told tryouts are 3 weeks long. So I have no idea if she will make it or not.
She looks really good with the team and they already treat her like a teammate... so I hope so.
But it is super frustrating for tryouts to go from 3 days to 3 weeks.
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Post by soccernoleuk on May 11, 2021 20:03:50 GMT -5
As an FYI, both the 07 & 08 girls ECNL teams @ GSA had guest players training with them tonight. I don't know which club(s) they came from but they were definitely from another club. If you have a girl that is interested in making either of these teams, I would suggest reaching out to the coach because more than likely the spots will be filled before tryouts.
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Post by newguy on May 11, 2021 20:24:59 GMT -5
Assuming most of these replies are for the older age groups? How often are academy kids being recruited to “practice” with other teams prior to tryouts?
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Post by rudy on May 11, 2021 20:51:33 GMT -5
3 weeks for tryouts sounds odd. At the older ages, offers are made quickly. Coaches can tell pretty quickly if a player will improve the team. If after day 2, no offer then chances are one may not be coming.
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 12, 2021 6:15:44 GMT -5
Assuming most of these replies are for the older age groups? How often are academy kids being recruited to “practice” with other teams prior to tryouts? Not as often because their seasons are often still going on but it does happen sometimes. The academy ages often have free pre-tryout camps and so that also serves as a chance to see the player. Plus there is a lot of change with academy ages where kids just quit playing because of other interests and commitments so coaches sometimes don't know their numbers as well before camps and tryouts. |
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Post by fgug on May 12, 2021 6:25:19 GMT -5
Assuming most of these replies are for the older age groups? How often are academy kids being recruited to “practice” with other teams prior to tryouts? It definitely happens. There have been girls at “open” academy practices since the beginning of May. |
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Post by justwatching on May 12, 2021 10:39:14 GMT -5
My player has been consistently practicing and scrimmaging (by invite) with a top team at new (to us) club... which sounds positive, but we were still told tryouts are 3 weeks long. So I have no idea if she will make it or not. She looks really good with the team and they already treat her like a teammate... so I hope so. But it is super frustrating for tryouts to go from 3 days to 3 weeks. 3 weeks is long unless the coach is wondering if other options are in the works so they don't want to commit to your kid. An extended tryout period longer than 3 days is generally better from my perspective if you are an outsider trying to break into a top team. Unless the coach knows who the kid is, which they likely do by U13, or if the kid is heads and shoulders above the current players, three days is unlikely to displace a current kid the coach has history with. I know a lot of people on here talk about the new shinny objects coaches go for but I would say in my experience it is the opposite. A coach would rather deal with what they already know unless the kid coming from another club is significantly better or the current kid is someone they have been wanting replaced anyways. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 12, 2021 10:47:21 GMT -5
hopefully there is open communication between player and coach. If not I would highly recommend the player speak to the coach in these situations.
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Post by DunwoodySoccerDad on May 12, 2021 10:48:06 GMT -5
My player has been consistently practicing and scrimmaging (by invite) with a top team at new (to us) club... which sounds positive, but we were still told tryouts are 3 weeks long. So I have no idea if she will make it or not. She looks really good with the team and they already treat her like a teammate... so I hope so. But it is super frustrating for tryouts to go from 3 days to 3 weeks. 3 weeks is long unless the coach is wondering if other options are in the works so they don't want to commit to your kid. An extended tryout period longer than 3 days is generally better from my perspective if you are an outsider trying to break into a top team. Unless the coach knows who the kid is, which they likely do by U13, or if the kid is heads and shoulders above the current players, three days is unlikely to displace a current kid the coach has history with. I know a lot of people on here talk about the new shinny objects coaches go for but I would say in my experience it is the opposite. A coach would rather deal with what they already know unless the kid coming from another club is significantly better or the current kid is someone they have been wanting replaced anyways. agree 100% |
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Post by justwatching on May 12, 2021 10:55:31 GMT -5
Assuming most of these replies are for the older age groups? How often are academy kids being recruited to “practice” with other teams prior to tryouts? Yes. Most club's academy age team's rosters are pretty fluid and are even set week to week a lot of the time. There is a lot less that is needed in evaluating a player when it is easy to move a kid up or down levels within the club. When rosters are "set" e.g. U13 and up (U12 in some cases) that's when it gets tricky and selections have to be done a lot more carefully to make sure the decision isn't a bad one, hence invites to practices, etc. prior to tryouts to get a closer/longer individual look. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 12, 2021 17:10:01 GMT -5
At older ages, the big 5 will get the best players for the most part with no recruiting needed. The top players know where the exposure to the next level coaches will come from.
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Post by 03fk on May 12, 2021 18:08:06 GMT -5
My player has been consistently practicing and scrimmaging (by invite) with a top team at new (to us) club... which sounds positive, but we were still told tryouts are 3 weeks long. So I have no idea if she will make it or not. She looks really good with the team and they already treat her like a teammate... so I hope so. But it is super frustrating for tryouts to go from 3 days to 3 weeks. 3 weeks is long unless the coach is wondering if other options are in the works so they don't want to commit to your kid. An extended tryout period longer than 3 days is generally better from my perspective if you are an outsider trying to break into a top team. Unless the coach knows who the kid is, which they likely do by U13, or if the kid is heads and shoulders above the current players, three days is unlikely to displace a current kid the coach has history with. I know a lot of people on here talk about the new shinny objects coaches go for but I would say in my experience it is the opposite. A coach would rather deal with what they already know unless the kid coming from another club is significantly better or the current kid is someone they have been wanting replaced anyways. I partially agree about the shiny new object. I believe Tophat will take the new object if they come from Concorde and visa verse for Concorde taking Tophat players. The other clubs I would believe would give true looks and stay with what they know. Thats my opinion. But I will let you know because we are trying to move clubs and hopefully we have a chance |
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