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Post by nole95 on May 20, 2021 8:39:19 GMT -5
Yesterday my daughter came home from a soccer team meeting at the high school. One of the things her coach mentioned that GHSA just revised yesterday is that they want to move the start of the 2022 season up by a week. Sure enough, I found this online with tentative start dates for. Tryouts would now start on January 3. GHA 2022 Tentative DatesApparently from what he told the team, he had been hearing from other coaches all day that were not pleased with the proposed change. I think tentative schedules for at least a few teams in our county, if not more, had already been set, including my daughter's team. She brought home a 2022 schedule that includes teams in at least four different counties around us, so I assume those schools already have schedules set up as well. Will be curious to see how this plays out. |
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Post by mightydawg on May 20, 2021 9:01:28 GMT -5
Interesting that they did not move up the start dates for all of the spring sports.
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 20, 2021 9:15:11 GMT -5
Yeah, and the last week of games is during Fulton county spring break, so at this point nobody's too happy with the decision. I suppose it can change back still, but the choice of not having a game for over a week leading into the playoffs isn't very appetizing either.
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Post by mightydawg on May 20, 2021 9:35:47 GMT -5
Back in my day, we had practices and games during spring break week.
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Post by sailingaway on May 20, 2021 11:12:50 GMT -5
Yesterday my daughter came home from a soccer team meeting at the high school. One of the things her coach mentioned that GHSA just revised yesterday is that they want to move the start of the 2022 season up by a week. Sure enough, I found this online with tentative start dates for. Tryouts would now start on January 3. GHA 2022 Tentative DatesApparently from what he told the team, he had been hearing from other coaches all day that were not pleased with the proposed change. I think tentative schedules for at least a few teams in our county, if not more, had already been set, including my daughter's team. She brought home a 2022 schedule that includes teams in at least four different counties around us, so I assume those schools already have schedules set up as well. Will be curious to see how this plays out. They have tryouts only 3 weeks before games start on January 24? Riflery gets 3 months LOL! |
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Post by Keeper on May 20, 2021 12:18:39 GMT -5
This is what happens when they let some idiots decide to end the school year halfway through the spring and not actually go to the summer in mid June.
Push everything back to a Labor Day like start of the school year and end the school year around mid June. Plenty of time to spread all the seasons out so a kid playing basketball doesn't miss the first 6 weeks of soccer (and that’s if the team doesn't make the playoffs). Football and Fall sports can still start early as there’s a lot of games already played before students return to classes.
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Post by nole95 on May 20, 2021 12:22:45 GMT -5
Yeah, and the last week of games is during Fulton county spring break, so at this point nobody's too happy with the decision. I suppose it can change back still, but the choice of not having a game for over a week leading into the playoffs isn't very appetizing either. Same thing for Forsyth county, and I am sure most of Georgia as well. Makes no sense. |
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Post by kickpuncher on May 20, 2021 13:23:30 GMT -5
That will be a cluster. High school girls coaches having try-outs the week before ECNL Florida showcase when all their best sophomores, juniors, and seniors want to get in front of college coaches. So what you’ll have is either kids skipping club training for try-outs which will be an issue at that point prepping for showcase. Or kids skipping try-outs for club practice which will be an issue for coaches picking teams. Or kids trying to do both and being exhausted by the weekend when they finally get to the showcase. Or high school coaches could recognize that most of the ECNL kids are prepping for something important that week, make accommodations for it, and ease their best players’ minds and bodies. But that is… unlikely I don't think any of that is a big deal. Much like other sports in high school, tryouts are generally a formality. If soccer is anything like other sports, a head coach goes into tryouts knowing where almost every player already fits (or doesn't) in the program. The few decisions that really get made tend to be around the periphery (is Kid A a bench varsity player or going to JV, does this guy that struggled on JV get cut or kept on JV again as a junior). The few real decisions center on if a non-stud freshman can help on varsity, where does a new move-in fit, and did these tertiary players last season improve enough to matter. And honestly, most of those decisions don't fall in the cut or keep category. If a coach picks incorrectly, they can just move up and down between JV and varsity as needed. The open secret of tryouts is that each team is basically set in the coach's mind well before tryouts. The tryouts are more about dealing with the margins of the team rather than the heart of the team. |
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Post by soccerallthetime on May 20, 2021 14:26:24 GMT -5
One possible reason they may be doing this is so the playoffs don’t extend all the way into the end of year testing. I know a few boys who actually had AP exams the morning of their semi-final playoff game. So they’re all worried about testing, and then also preparing for a huge game. Maybe with this change, they won’t have to play for the state championship at the same time they take tests.
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Post by greenmonkey on May 20, 2021 15:30:42 GMT -5
I don't think any of that is a big deal. Much like other sports in high school, tryouts are generally a formality. If soccer is anything like other sports, a head coach goes into tryouts knowing where almost every player already fits (or doesn't) in the program. The few decisions that really get made tend to be around the periphery (is Kid A a bench varsity player or going to JV, does this guy that struggled on JV get cut or kept on JV again as a junior). The few real decisions center on if a non-stud freshman can help on varsity, where does a new move-in fit, and did these tertiary players last season improve enough to matter.
And honestly, most of those decisions don't fall in the cut or keep category. If a coach picks incorrectly, they can just move up and down between JV and varsity as needed.
The open secret of tryouts is that each team is basically set in the coach's mind well before tryouts. The tryouts are more about dealing with the margins of the team rather than the heart of the team.
SO ACCORDING TO THIS ^^^^^^^^^
Should I tell my rising 9th grader to just hang up the cleats now. I mean there is no middle soccer at our school so I have no idea how the coach is supposed to already know who the 8th grade club superstars are that are arriving at his school looking to try out next year?! But I guess the open secret is he already knows. I hope he has our phone number and email. Fingers crossed.
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Post by kidsocceruber on May 20, 2021 21:52:44 GMT -5
I don't think any of that is a big deal. Much like other sports in high school, tryouts are generally a formality. If soccer is anything like other sports, a head coach goes into tryouts knowing where almost every player already fits (or doesn't) in the program. The few decisions that really get made tend to be around the periphery (is Kid A a bench varsity player or going to JV, does this guy that struggled on JV get cut or kept on JV again as a junior). The few real decisions center on if a non-stud freshman can help on varsity, where does a new move-in fit, and did these tertiary players last season improve enough to matter. And honestly, most of those decisions don't fall in the cut or keep category. If a coach picks incorrectly, they can just move up and down between JV and varsity as needed. The open secret of tryouts is that each team is basically set in the coach's mind well before tryouts. The tryouts are more about dealing with the margins of the team rather than the heart of the team. SO ACCORDING TO THIS ^^^^^^^^^ Should I tell my rising 9th grader to just hang up the cleats now. I mean there is no middle soccer at our school so I have no idea how the coach is supposed to already know who the 8th grade club superstars are that are arriving at his school looking to try out next year?! But I guess the open secret is he already knows. I hope he has our phone number and email. Fingers crossed. There's always room for superstar freshmen at tryouts  |
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Post by rudy on May 21, 2021 5:27:04 GMT -5
8th graders can't play varsity. Many of the larger schools have multiple JV teams whose rosters are fluid.
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Post by kickpuncher on May 21, 2021 6:52:47 GMT -5
I don't think any of that is a big deal. Much like other sports in high school, tryouts are generally a formality. If soccer is anything like other sports, a head coach goes into tryouts knowing where almost every player already fits (or doesn't) in the program. The few decisions that really get made tend to be around the periphery (is Kid A a bench varsity player or going to JV, does this guy that struggled on JV get cut or kept on JV again as a junior). The few real decisions center on if a non-stud freshman can help on varsity, where does a new move-in fit, and did these tertiary players last season improve enough to matter. And honestly, most of those decisions don't fall in the cut or keep category. If a coach picks incorrectly, they can just move up and down between JV and varsity as needed. The open secret of tryouts is that each team is basically set in the coach's mind well before tryouts. The tryouts are more about dealing with the margins of the team rather than the heart of the team. SO ACCORDING TO THIS ^^^^^^^^^ Should I tell my rising 9th grader to just hang up the cleats now. I mean there is no middle soccer at our school so I have no idea how the coach is supposed to already know who the 8th grade club superstars are that are arriving at his school looking to try out next year?! But I guess the open secret is he already knows. I hope he has our phone number and email. Fingers crossed. If you'll re-read, I said one of the few times tryouts matter is on a non-stud freshman. Any coach with a vague clue about their program knows if they have a game changer that's about to be a ninth grader. If a ninth grader is good or decent, the coach would want the tryout to make sure they can handle the varsity load (speed, power, maturity). You can question the thinking if you want, but a coach generally has a pretty good idea of what they have before a tryout starts. This applies not only to on field talent but also things like classroom behavior, grades, and where a parent ranks from helpful to insanely over the top. Coaches talk (between clubs and schools) and teachers talk (between middle and high). There really just aren't that many surprises at tryouts. And if a kid has similar talent level to another but one kid handles classes well and has parents that won't cause problems, you can bet the coach is aware of that and factors that into the decision. |
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