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Post by bogan on May 27, 2021 14:33:46 GMT -5
Avoiding it until mid-week of next week likely means you lose your spot if they start calling tomorrow. We had a really fun experience a couple of years ago trying to avoid a coach's calls -- after about the 10th "missed call" it started to seem a little obvious. This is a collect call from Mr Floyd to Mrs. Floyd… He keeps hanging up… |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on May 27, 2021 16:26:57 GMT -5
That is a predicament. I would try to avoid the call from Club #1 at least till mid-week next week so you can determine if the other club is a good fit after 1-2 days of tryouts there. If they really want your kid at the 1st club they will hold his spot until they talk to you. If they don't then you know where you stood with the 1st club. Avoiding it until mid-week of next week likely means you lose your spot if they start calling tomorrow. Well it really depends on a lot of things. Is there more than 1 team at the location? Is the location a branch location? What level is the team? I find they will hold spots for 2nd-3rd teams and down or if there is only one team at a branch location for that age group and there weren't 25-30+ good players trying out they will tend to hold it. The question really is how much is the club hurting for good players on that team? If the answer is they are not hurting and your child is not a superstar but more of the average player then yes they will give his spot away in a heart beat. So leverage is everything and who holds that leverages is everything as well. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 27, 2021 17:05:40 GMT -5
I will say that once a kid hits u14 most top players are well known. Those kids will be offered soon after tryouts start as Ive seen it happen personally. There is no chance a coach lets them out of the park the first night without offering. If a kid is called after 3rd night, they likely should take the offer as it may not be there tomorrow.
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Post by dadofthree on May 27, 2021 18:24:09 GMT -5
I will say that once a kid hits u14 most top players are well known. Those kids will be offered soon after tryouts start as Ive seen it happen personally. There is no chance a coach lets them out of the park the first night without offering. If a kid is called after 3rd night, they likely should take the offer as it may not be there tomorrow. Would whole heartedly agree with this. For U14 and up most of the top teams are filled before tryouts. Tryouts just for show for many top teams. |
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Post by soccerparent02 on May 27, 2021 19:04:20 GMT -5
So correct about teams often at the highest levels picked before tryouts start. There may be one possibly 2 potential spot left. Also remember, players know who top players are as well so current top players will recruit top off other team so often those 2 spots are already filled. Top players play top players each week and have since u13.
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Post by justwatching on May 28, 2021 9:32:57 GMT -5
Avoiding the coach's call is a good way to lose your spot unless the club has no one to fill it. His job is to field the best team he can so waiting on you might mean he loses out on good replacement players. Best bet is to be upfront with current coach and let him tell you if he will hold the spot or fill it if you wait.
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Post by SoccerFirst on May 28, 2021 18:18:31 GMT -5
During my time in youth soccer, I have learned two important lessons (1) There is no loyalty from clubs to players; and (2) once your kid gets identified as a 2nd, 3rd, 4th team player at a club, it is extremely difficult to move up within the club no matter how much your player has improved. As a general rule, clubs fall into one of two buckets: (1) string current kids at the club along with little to no information to force kids to tryouts (for all 3 or 4 days) to see if better players from outside the club come along or (2) force current kids to make a decision on the club before tryouts so that they can't go to another club. You need to understand this and develop a plan. In order to combat this, you need to create options for your child to take the power away from the clubs. In order to do that, you need to remember that tryouts actual start on May 1st (actually in mid to late April this year). Start doing your work May 1st. If you show up at scheduled tryouts without putting in the work before hand, you are making a choice to give the club all of the power. Helping your kid to take control of their soccer journey is the way to take power back from the clubs. My kids are not first team players. This year both of my kids had multiple offers to play at the level where they wanted to play before scheduled tryouts started. All they had to do was to pick between their options. It has taken the stress completely out of tryouts. Truth... |
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Post by BubbleDad on May 28, 2021 19:43:12 GMT -5
During my time in youth soccer, I have learned two important lessons (1) There is no loyalty from clubs to players; and (2) once your kid gets identified as a 2nd, 3rd, 4th team player at a club, it is extremely difficult to move up within the club no matter how much your player has improved. As a general rule, clubs fall into one of two buckets: (1) string current kids at the club along with little to no information to force kids to tryouts (for all 3 or 4 days) to see if better players from outside the club come along or (2) force current kids to make a decision on the club before tryouts so that they can't go to another club. You need to understand this and develop a plan. In order to combat this, you need to create options for your child to take the power away from the clubs. In order to do that, you need to remember that tryouts actual start on May 1st (actually in mid to late April this year). Start doing your work May 1st. If you show up at scheduled tryouts without putting in the work before hand, you are making a choice to give the club all of the power. Helping your kid to take control of their soccer journey is the way to take power back from the clubs. My kids are not first team players. This year both of my kids had multiple offers to play at the level where they wanted to play before scheduled tryouts started. All they had to do was to pick between their options. It has taken the stress completely out of tryouts. Truth... Completely agree. My daughter was in the same situation this time around like your daughters. No stressful tryout this season, she has accepted an offer to join a team with other talented players and we're heading to Nationals babe'! |
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Post by oraclesfriend on May 28, 2021 20:28:26 GMT -5
Completely agree. My daughter was in the same situation this time around like your daughters. No stressful tryout this season, she has accepted an offer to join a team with other talented players and we're heading to Nationals babe'! Congratulations! |
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Post by guest on May 29, 2021 7:29:16 GMT -5
“ Do you know of any other business that puts pressure like this…” Maybe the timeshare industry?🤔😉 Yes I do: residential real estate. How’s this for pressure: homes are currently selling in minutes after going on the market. Sometimes before they go on the market. Sellers are demanding and getting offers that include no appraisal contingencies, no inspections, large non-refundable earnest money amounts, no on site looks at the property (only photos) and/or cash only offers. And they will get a dozen offers that meet these criteria and above asking price. Sellers agents (soccer clubs) are calling buyers agents (kid who wants to play at said club) and saying you have 15 minutes to buy this house (accept a spot on said team). And if you don’t accept during this phone call I have 10 other buyers (kids who tried out who also want that spot on said team) who I will call next. There’s your analogy. |
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Post by bogan on May 29, 2021 7:56:42 GMT -5
“ Do you know of any other business that puts pressure like this…” Maybe the timeshare industry?🤔😉 Yes I do: residential real estate. How’s this for pressure: homes are currently selling in minutes after going on the market. Sometimes before they go on the market. Sellers are demanding and getting offers that include no appraisal contingencies, no inspections, large non-refundable earnest money amounts, no on site looks at the property (only photos) and/or cash only offers. And they will get a dozen offers that meet these criteria and above asking price. Sellers agents (soccer clubs) are calling buyers agents (kid who wants to play at said club) and saying you have 15 minutes to buy this house (accept a spot on said team). And if you don’t accept during this phone call I have 10 other buyers (kids who tried out who also want that spot on said team) who I will call next. There’s your analogy. Yep-that works |
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