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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 29, 2021 5:42:32 GMT -5
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Post by bogan on May 29, 2021 5:44:07 GMT -5
🙄Just stop it already. Stop the madness!🤣 |
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Post by Futsal Gawdess on May 29, 2021 5:49:39 GMT -5
So on the boys side, we have MLS-Next, ECNL, ECRL, NL, NPL, SCCL-X, and now potentially EAL 🙄
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 29, 2021 9:21:13 GMT -5
So on the boys side, we have MLS-Next, ECNL, ECRL, NL, NPL, SCCL-X, and now potentially EAL 🙄 I would break MLSNext into tier 1 & tier 2 also, with tier 2 landing between NPL & SCCL-X. Hahahahaha! |
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Post by justhavefun on May 29, 2021 9:55:51 GMT -5
If you go outside Georgia , MLS Next is the most competitive league.
For example Florida & Tennessee have their top teams in MLS - Next.
It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia. Currently Georgia just has AU and LSA that are competitive in Georgia. One of the big 5 Georgia clubs need to move to MLS- Next. ECNL rules in Georgia unlike other States.
I guess if you are happy playing the same 5 teams week after week, ECNL is the place for you. I predict UFA goes first, then NASA - if they are smart they do. GSA and Concord can then play each other 5 x a year. They can change it to the “ kick ball” league . Lol
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Post by Soccerhouse on May 29, 2021 10:05:06 GMT -5
If you go outside Georgia , MLS Next is the most competitive league. For example Florida & Tennessee have their top teams in MLS - Next. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia. Currently Georgia just has AU and LSA that are competitive in Georgia. One of the big 5 Georgia clubs need to move to MLS- Next. ECNL rules in Georgia unlike other States. I guess if you are happy playing the same 5 teams week after week, ECNL is the place for you. I predict UFA goes first, then NASA - if they are smart they do. GSA and Concord can then play each other 5 x a year. They can change it to the “ kick ball” league . Lol if MLS creates their own tier, none of the big 5 will make the jump. Personally most of Florida travel is too far for youth games especially south florida, so no reason Georgia needs to be in a division with Florida. I think the bigger question is what happens with MLS youth academies, because many are realizing the juice ain't worth the squeeze. |
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Post by rifle on May 29, 2021 10:12:35 GMT -5
If you go outside Georgia , MLS Next is the most competitive league. For example Florida & Tennessee have their top teams in MLS - Next. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia. Currently Georgia just has AU and LSA that are competitive in Georgia. One of the big 5 Georgia clubs need to move to MLS- Next. ECNL rules in Georgia unlike other States. I guess if you are happy playing the same 5 teams week after week, ECNL is the place for you. I predict UFA goes first, then NASA - if they are smart they do. GSA and Concord can then play each other 5 x a year. They can change it to the “ kick ball” league . Lol if MLS creates their own tier, none of the big 5 will make the jump. Personally most of Florida travel is too far for youth games especially south florida, so no reason Georgia needs to be in a division with Florida. I think the bigger question is what happens with MLS youth academies, because many are realizing the juice ain't worth the squeeze. IF MLS would start playing homegrown youth instead of hype bombs like Barco.. they might actually turn profitable. You’ll never find out if you keep them in obscurity of alphabet leagues or USL. When the fed allows closed leagues to constrain the pathway - the pond remains very small for players to be seen and considered legit. Particularly when the D1 league becomes a place for average to good South Americans above any domestic talent. |
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Post by justhavefun on May 29, 2021 10:21:14 GMT -5
I think it depends on what your perspective of what the MLS - Next League is.
If your perspective is its a pathway to go pro, I would agree. But my perspective is that if you look the league in its entirety (i. e outside Georgia) it’s the most competitive league after just a couple of years. If you want to be the best you must beat the best. Look at the National boy rankings and compare that with Georgia ECNL.
I don’t have sons so from where I sit ECNL + NTH is very competitive. Not the same on the boys side IMO
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Post by soccernotfootball on May 29, 2021 10:33:54 GMT -5
If you go outside Georgia , MLS Next is the most competitive league. For example Florida & Tennessee have their top teams in MLS - Next. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia. Currently Georgia just has AU and LSA that are competitive in Georgia. One of the big 5 Georgia clubs need to move to MLS- Next. ECNL rules in Georgia unlike other States. I guess if you are happy playing the same 5 teams week after week, ECNL is the place for you. I predict UFA goes first, then NASA - if they are smart they do. GSA and Concord can then play each other 5 x a year. They can change it to the “ kick ball” league . Lol Outside of GA is just like inside of GA... the top teams play in whatever league the club has. And you play the same teams in that league... so MLS Next teams will play the same teams week after week just like every other league. Additionally, if rumor is true, MLS Next approached NASA and they they weren't interested. (Heard the same about UFA less reliable sources.) |
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Post by justhavefun on May 29, 2021 10:58:35 GMT -5
So maybe the better debate is where is their better soccer ( i.e Florida vs Georgia vs “ X” state . Look at the MLS - Next teams in Florida vs Georgia. Top to bottom Florida has much better teams. Let the debate begin?
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Post by mightydawg on May 29, 2021 17:51:23 GMT -5
If you go outside Georgia , MLS Next is the most competitive league. For example Florida & Tennessee have their top teams in MLS - Next. It will be interesting to see what happens in Georgia. Currently Georgia just has AU and LSA that are competitive in Georgia. One of the big 5 Georgia clubs need to move to MLS- Next. ECNL rules in Georgia unlike other States. I guess if you are happy playing the same 5 teams week after week, ECNL is the place for you. I predict UFA goes first, then NASA - if they are smart they do. GSA and Concord can then play each other 5 x a year. They can change it to the “ kick ball” league . Lol You mean one of the big 5 like say SSA, who bottom of the table in all of the older age groups. LSA only has MLS at the younger age groups. The best teams in Tennessee, like Tennessee FC, Chattanooga and FC alliance are all in ECNL. Best teams in South Carolina and North Carolina are in ECNL. MLS Next is the MLS academies and then the lambs being led to the slaughter. |
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Post by justhavefun on May 29, 2021 19:23:31 GMT -5
Mighty dawg.
Not sure you realize but you are making my point for me. Agreed SSA is not strong nor is Inter Atlanta , AFC , etc , and what state are those teams from?
MSL - Next is much more than just Georgia teams. Check out those teams in Florida. As far as Tennessee goes, literally as I right this they are building out a
“ all state “ team from within, They are taking the best players in the state. ( I.e from the Nashville, Knoxville , Chattanooga ECNL teams ) and building out their MLS - Next team. I suspect you will see a fall off from the TN ECNL teams come next season. How did the U13 ECNL teams do against U13 AU this year? When AU played their own age group vs ECNL - they were something like 6-0 . And that AU U13 team wasn’t world beaters against MLS - Next teams this year. They probably lost more than they won.
I see it differently than you in that the top Georgia teams need to consider joining MLS or run the risk of being irrelevant. It’s not going to happen over night, but give it a year or two. MLS - Next will replace the Boys DA program because the competition outside of Georgia will be better. It already is.
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Post by allthingsoccer on May 29, 2021 21:14:06 GMT -5
MLS Next will be the main league for MLS academies. The playoffs and showcase are at Toyota stadium/ soccer park this year. Tons of scouts/ recruiters. Lots of money.
MLS Cup this weekend.
Yes, ECNL finals are a big deal as well.
I personally think so much money will be dumped into it. It will be the main league.
They should have a final 8 between top MLS Next vs ECNL event. That would be pretty cool.
But.. you will have a mix of MLS, ECNL, Highschool pathways to D1/USL2 soccer.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 30, 2021 8:54:04 GMT -5
Sorry, the lipstick is the MLS academies, the pig is MLS Next.
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Post by Brinker on May 30, 2021 9:01:27 GMT -5
From my perspective, in Georgia, ECNL boys is a significantly better league with better competition than MLSNEXT. I am sure that is not true in other areas of the country, but if you have a top level boys player in GA, he should play either AU academy or ECNL.
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Post by justhavefun on May 30, 2021 9:53:53 GMT -5
Respectfully, I still think you are missing my point.
I am not arguing that in Georgia ECNL is better than MLS-Next. ( top to bottom)
My point is outside Georgia the better teams are moving towards MLS- Next ( I.e Tennessee & Florida in the Southeast)
Let’s be honest, for the most part there are 4 teams in Georgia that are competitive, ( CF -Platinum, GSA, NASA & UFA) - yes there are outliers in certain age groups.
So is it better to be in a league with 4 good teams or with many good teams
that also includes the academies.
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Post by GameOfThrow-ins on May 30, 2021 10:57:29 GMT -5
I think you’re missing our point. Aside from maybe 12 strong non-mls clubs nationwide that didn’t join ECNL at the demise of DA and were available to join MLS Next, the remainder of the league is below nationwide ECNL quality. We’re into the older age groups at this point and have played or watched all the best clubs nationwide and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the top tier, let’s even say top half, of MLS Next is the most formidable competition available when they actually play (they don’t play many games), but the other half of MLS Next, taken on to actually have some semblance of a game schedule, is way down the list. For some reason you don’t understand the ECNL schedule and think teams are playing multiple times (it’s just the standard home & away and maybe a tournament game) and only a few games per year. In all meaningful competitions, we’re at 52 games played this year with playoffs still to come. My advice to parents is to stay as far away from MLS Next as you can unless offered an MLS academy spot.
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Post by mightydawg on May 30, 2021 12:17:30 GMT -5
I think you’re missing our point. Aside from maybe 12 strong non-mls clubs nationwide that didn’t join ECNL at the demise of DA and were available to join MLS Next, the remainder of the league is below nationwide ECNL quality. We’re into the older age groups at this point and have played or watched all the best clubs nationwide and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that the top tier, let’s even say top half, of MLS Next is the most formidable competition available when they actually play (they don’t play many games), but the other half of MLS Next, taken on to actually have some semblance of a game schedule, is way down the list. For some reason you don’t understand the ECNL schedule and think teams are playing multiple times (it’s just the standard home & away and maybe a tournament game) and only a few games per year. In all meaningful competitions, we’re at 52 games played this year with playoffs still to come. My advice to parents is to stay as far away from MLS Next as you can unless offered an MLS academy spot. But, but it has MLS in the title, it must be good. It will make my son a pro. |
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