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Post by soccermaxx72 on Jun 1, 2021 20:55:55 GMT -5
How is this even possible that the ACC which is either the number 1 or 2 league for women’s college soccer has an ACC member institution that does not have women’s soccer?
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 1, 2021 20:57:50 GMT -5
Tech does not need women’s soccer to qualify under title ix.
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Post by Brinker on Jun 1, 2021 21:01:43 GMT -5
Georgia Tech doesn’t have men’s soccer either even though the ACC is considered a top soccer conference with UNC, Duke, Clemson, Wake, etc. Missed opportunity for Tech in both men’s and women’s soccer, especially with the growth of the sport in America.
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Post by atlfutboldad on Jun 1, 2021 21:02:47 GMT -5
And it's easy to find academics amongst soccer players
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Post by bogan on Jun 1, 2021 21:06:01 GMT -5
How is this even possible that the ACC which is either the number 1 or 2 league for women’s college soccer has an ACC member institution that does not have women’s soccer? History: Tech used to be SEC. |
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Post by ball2futbol on Jun 1, 2021 21:19:17 GMT -5
I’m sure a handful of influential alumni could strategize to make this happen.
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Post by ncsoccerparent on Jun 2, 2021 7:59:57 GMT -5
How is this even possible that the ACC which is either the number 1 or 2 league for women’s college soccer has an ACC member institution that does not have women’s soccer? I was looking into this the other day and found it interesting that GT only has 14 different sports (mens/womens combined). Obviously financials dictates everything and how many non-revenue sports a school can maintain and meet Title IX requirements. Interesting how some schools are able to maintain a much larger. UVA has men's and women's squash and BC has skiing. UNC - 26 UVA - 25 BC - 25 NC State - 22 Duke - 21 Louisville - 21 Notre Dame - 20 FSU - 18 Syracuse - 18 VT - 17 Clemson - 17 Wake Forest - 16 Miami - 16 Pitt - 14 GT - 14 |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 2, 2021 8:18:20 GMT -5
That is the beauty they could add both a men's and women's team and its net difference of 0.
We need it.
We have to have it.
Hell, like I said before, you not even give athletic scholarships and just use the hope and make it 100% in state students only if wanted.
Do it.
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Post by soccerloafer on Jun 2, 2021 11:50:58 GMT -5
GT has a very good women's club team filled with former ECNL / RPL etc players. A couple of the girls could have played D1 elsewhere, many had offers from smaller schools, but chose GT for academics. With little work, GT could easily field an ACC competitive team. How many TH, CF, UFA, GSA etc girls would stay home to play? With the Hope scholarship, not much money is required.
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Post by soccerdad76 on Jun 2, 2021 12:03:09 GMT -5
Would playing near home be incentive enough to play D1 ball? In theory they could have done that elsewhere. I’ll agree another in-state option would be nice, though, but most that go to Tech have chosen academics over serious athletics.
This is coming from a GT grad that played club... and loved it. Low pressure, minimal interference with academics, weekend travel to other (fun) colleges. Being a true collegiate athlete is big commitment.
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Post by 04gparent on Jun 2, 2021 12:18:58 GMT -5
GT has a very good women's club team filled with former ECNL / RPL etc players. A couple of the girls could have played D1 elsewhere, many had offers from smaller schools, but chose GT for academics. With little work, GT could easily field an ACC competitive team. How many TH, CF, UFA, GSA etc girls would stay home to play? With the Hope scholarship, not much money is required. UGA has all of the above and can not field a competitive team in a weaker (compared to ACC) conference. It takes more than just recruiting the allstars of your state to be competive nationally in college. |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jun 2, 2021 14:06:36 GMT -5
GT has a very good women's club team filled with former ECNL / RPL etc players. A couple of the girls could have played D1 elsewhere, many had offers from smaller schools, but chose GT for academics. With little work, GT could easily field an ACC competitive team. How many TH, CF, UFA, GSA etc girls would stay home to play? With the Hope scholarship, not much money is required. UGA has all of the above and can not field a competitive team in a weaker (compared to ACC) conference. It takes more than just recruiting the allstars of your state to be competive nationally in college. Depends on your definition of competitive. UGA was 5-7-3 last year with mostly 1 goal differences, no blow outs. I'd argue that's competitive. Not suggesting GT would WIN the ACC, just that they could put together a respectable team. Get smoked 5-0 by Duke, UNC, and FSU, split the rest, win some out of conference games... A .500 record would be competitive IMO. |
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Post by mistergrinch on Jun 4, 2021 14:54:31 GMT -5
GT has a very good women's club team filled with former ECNL / RPL etc players. A couple of the girls could have played D1 elsewhere, many had offers from smaller schools, but chose GT for academics. With little work, GT could easily field an ACC competitive team. How many TH, CF, UFA, GSA etc girls would stay home to play? With the Hope scholarship, not much money is required. UGA has all of the above and can not field a competitive team in a weaker (compared to ACC) conference. It takes more than just recruiting the allstars of your state to be competive nationally in college. Well - someone above already said that soccer players were smart. |
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Post by ultimatedad on Jun 11, 2021 1:22:07 GMT -5
Uhm I think the girls at Tech are too smart to WANT to play D1 soccer.
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 11, 2021 6:38:57 GMT -5
Uhm I think the girls at Tech are too smart to WANT to play D1 soccer. So the girls at Ivy Leagues and Vandy and Duke and Stanford are not as smart? |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jun 11, 2021 10:46:23 GMT -5
Uhm I think the girls at Tech are too smart to WANT to play D1 soccer. So the girls at Ivy Leagues and Vandy and Duke and Stanford are not as smart? Those 'elite' schools have turned into fantasyland cesspools where your skin color and ideology matter far more than merit. Duke and Stanford aren't as bad, but the Ivies and Vandy are trash now. |
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Post by ecnldad on Jun 14, 2021 8:23:47 GMT -5
Ha. My daughter is admitted to the fall semester at the Institute and I contacted both the school and ACC over this same concern. The school said they have no plans to add women's soccer. The ACC responded with:
Thank you for contacting the Atlantic Coast Conference.
The decision as to which sports are sponsored at each of the ACC’s 15 institutions is determined by the respective school.
As part of the conference’s constitution and bylaws (created by the membership), the following language is included:
Each member shall meet NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision membership requirements regarding the minimum number of teams. Further, each Member shall have a men’s and women’s basketball team, a football team, and either a women’s soccer team or a women’s volleyball team.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 14, 2021 8:54:21 GMT -5
Ha. My daughter is admitted to the fall semester at the Institute and I contacted both the school and ACC over this same concern. The school said they have no plans to add women's soccer. The ACC responded with: Thank you for contacting the Atlantic Coast Conference. The decision as to which sports are sponsored at each of the ACC’s 15 institutions is determined by the respective school. As part of the conference’s constitution and bylaws (created by the membership), the following language is included: Each member shall meet NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision membership requirements regarding the minimum number of teams. Further, each Member shall have a men’s and women’s basketball team, a football team, and either a women’s soccer team or a women’s volleyball team. Personally, I don't think Ga Tech realizes what they could have. No professional womens team in the ATL, people would pay to go watch ACC womens soccer in this city. I think it would become a instant success, especially with cross promotions with the local clubs. This is from 2018 - fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_soccer_RB/2019/Attendance.pdfbut I think they could easily pull 3K per game! |
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 14, 2021 9:22:55 GMT -5
Ha. My daughter is admitted to the fall semester at the Institute and I contacted both the school and ACC over this same concern. The school said they have no plans to add women's soccer. The ACC responded with: Thank you for contacting the Atlantic Coast Conference. The decision as to which sports are sponsored at each of the ACC’s 15 institutions is determined by the respective school. As part of the conference’s constitution and bylaws (created by the membership), the following language is included: Each member shall meet NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision membership requirements regarding the minimum number of teams. Further, each Member shall have a men’s and women’s basketball team, a football team, and either a women’s soccer team or a women’s volleyball team. Kudos to you for reaching out to them |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 14, 2021 9:24:10 GMT -5
Ha. My daughter is admitted to the fall semester at the Institute and I contacted both the school and ACC over this same concern. The school said they have no plans to add women's soccer. The ACC responded with: Thank you for contacting the Atlantic Coast Conference. The decision as to which sports are sponsored at each of the ACC’s 15 institutions is determined by the respective school. As part of the conference’s constitution and bylaws (created by the membership), the following language is included: Each member shall meet NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision membership requirements regarding the minimum number of teams. Further, each Member shall have a men’s and women’s basketball team, a football team, and either a women’s soccer team or a women’s volleyball team. Personally, I don't think Ga Tech realizes what they could have. No professional womens team in the ATL, people would pay to go watch ACC womens soccer in this city. I think it would become a instant success, especially with cross promotions with the local clubs. This is from 2018 - fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_soccer_RB/2019/Attendance.pdfbut I think they could easily pull 3K per game! Tech barely pulls 3K for American football.  |
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Post by soccerloafer on Jun 14, 2021 9:32:56 GMT -5
3k attendance would be stretching it. But they could very easily build a quality competitive team from local talent. (Definitions of competitive may vary, mine is a 0.500 team that plays nice soccer and every now and then pulls out a few extra wins).
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Post by bogan on Jun 14, 2021 10:05:08 GMT -5
Personally, I don't think Ga Tech realizes what they could have. No professional womens team in the ATL, people would pay to go watch ACC womens soccer in this city. I think it would become a instant success, especially with cross promotions with the local clubs. This is from 2018 - fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_soccer_RB/2019/Attendance.pdfbut I think they could easily pull 3K per game! Tech barely pulls 3K for American football. Yeah-that’s why they are afraid of a woman’s soccer team-better attendance than the football program. |
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Post by soccerlegacy on Jun 14, 2021 11:02:29 GMT -5
Ha. My daughter is admitted to the fall semester at the Institute and I contacted both the school and ACC over this same concern. The school said they have no plans to add women's soccer. The ACC responded with: Thank you for contacting the Atlantic Coast Conference. The decision as to which sports are sponsored at each of the ACC’s 15 institutions is determined by the respective school. As part of the conference’s constitution and bylaws (created by the membership), the following language is included: Each member shall meet NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision membership requirements regarding the minimum number of teams. Further, each Member shall have a men’s and women’s basketball team, a football team, and either a women’s soccer team or a women’s volleyball team. Personally, I don't think Ga Tech realizes what they could have. No professional womens team in the ATL, people would pay to go watch ACC womens soccer in this city. I think it would become a instant success, especially with cross promotions with the local clubs. This is from 2018 - fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/w_soccer_RB/2019/Attendance.pdfbut I think they could easily pull 3K per game! Big props to Univ. North Georgia!!! According to this .pdf they did quite well.... DIVISION II
Average Home Attendance Team Total Games Avg
1. Angelo St. 4,667 10 467 2. North Georgia 4,073 9 453
3. Southern N.H. 4,300 10 430 4. Stanislaus St. 4,630 11 421 5. Ferris St. 4,256 11 387 Edit: Georgia College also... ... 23. Central Wash. 2,522 9 280 24. Georgia College 2,022 8 275 25. Montevallo 1,920 7 274 |
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Post by mightydawg on Jun 14, 2021 11:10:48 GMT -5
It is really hard to believe that the top average home attendance in women's college soccer is 2,562 fans per game and there are only 3 schools that average over 2,000 fans per game, only 7 that average over 1,500 and only 21 schools that average over 1,000 per game.
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 14, 2021 11:28:14 GMT -5
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Post by oraclesfriend on Jun 14, 2021 11:36:59 GMT -5
Clemson has the women's games before the men and if you go to women's game then you can stay for the men for free (otherwise they charge small fee). Part of the problem is that kids that want to watch the games often can't because it conflicts with their own games. |
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Post by bogan on Jun 14, 2021 11:41:34 GMT -5
Clemson has the women's games before the men and if you go to women's game then you can stay for the men for free (otherwise they charge small fee). Part of the problem is that kids that want to watch the games often can't because it conflicts with their own games. I was just about to post “scheduling conflicts” as a big issue-you beat me to it. |
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Post by Soccerhouse on Jun 14, 2021 11:42:30 GMT -5
I still think it would be a huge draw -- and not to watch GA Tech play, but really their opposition - I'd for sure go watch if UNC, FSU, Clemson, Duke and the Damn of Notre came to town.
Not sure if its legal, but work with Atlanta United, and schedule a game before an Atlanta United game at Mercedes.
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Post by bogan on Jun 14, 2021 12:21:19 GMT -5
I still think it would be a huge draw -- and not to watch GA Tech play, but really their opposition - I'd for sure go watch if UNC, FSU, Clemson, Duke and the Damn of Notre came to town. Not sure if its legal, but work with Atlanta United, and schedule a game before an Atlanta United game at Mercedes. Probably legal but AU would want territorial rights to every player so… |
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Post by slickdaddy96 on Jun 14, 2021 12:41:57 GMT -5
Tech barely pulls 3K for American football. Yeah-that’s why they are afraid of a woman’s soccer team-better attendance than the football program. Hey now both of you! As a Georgia Tech alumnus (To Hell with Georgia by the way...), we pull in at least 20k-25k season ticket holders me being one of them, and for a school where most alumni live outside the state and only have about half the students as the cesspool in Athens, that is a pretty good number. I'm gonna be honest I don't think Tech wants a lot of the sidewalk fan types that uGAg gets. All you got to do to be a Mutt fan is go to walmart and buy a red shirt. They got plenty there, and then put a 2nd mortgage on the double wide to afford tickets... I used the shirts from walmart as toilet paper when it was scarce during the pandemic! All kidding aside, I have wanted them to add Men's soccer to GT for a while. I know they would have to add Women's too to make it a net 0, but GTAA's financials just aren't good enough right now to be able to put the money toward starting up 2 new programs. Maybe when our football team takes off with this new coach and revenue gets better with all the new clubs and lounges they are going to eventually put in the stadium they will have the funds to do so. I would assume soccer is probably the next on the list if they were to add a sport. |
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